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Old 01-23-2014, 10:17 AM - Thread Starter
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We've got a 780G chipset HTPC (2.5GHz dual-core AMD if memory serves) at the moment with a 7750 GPU and I'm going to upgrade it when the tax return comes.

All I need to purchase I think is a motherboard, RAM and CPU as I have the case, SSD, hard drives, etc.

I'm leaning towards a Pentium G3220 from all of my reading in the forum here, 4GB RAM and I think an H87 mobo (form factor doesn't matter)

We use the HTPC with WMC at the moment to record TV from a Ceton InfiniTV 4 USB and we also have an HDHomerun for OTA. Movies for the most part are DVD rips in VIDEO_TS format, some MKV. BluRay rips are mainly in BDMV, although some are in MKV format. Mediabrowser is what we typically use inside of WMC for movies.

Video/Audio goes HDMI to an Onkyo AVR that is typically off but passes through to the TV.

I don't run MadVR or SVP, although I do have a v19 license for JRiver that I could use for Red October HQ if I need to.

Is there really any reason for me to upgrade to an i3 or i5? Neither of which would get me into MadVR without a dGPU, correct?
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You should be fine.
I even think you might do just fine with a Celeron 1037U mini-ITX combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=-1&IsNodeId=1&Description=celeron%201037U&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

I am stumbled on those little gems and wondering why they are not more popular around here. Am I missing something? (sorry if hijacking the thread)

I got one for an HTPC build, but it is just sitting around since I don't have the time to do the build.
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Without doing a ton of digging into those, are they all Intel HD 4000 while the Haswell stuff is HD4600? I'm on my way out the door of work now but I will try to do some research later. About the only issue that I can quickly see is that they might not have as many SATA ports as a larger mobo.
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Ever finish up this build? Debating now myself between something embedded with a 1037u or a G3220 system. I'm kind of leaning toward the Pentium because it should be just about as efficient at idle, yet have horsepower in reserve when needed.
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I ended up going with an i3 setup because of a combo deal on TigerDirect being almost the same price as the G3220 that I had configured on Newegg. So far, so good with it. Might be overkill, but overkill is fine with me. smile.gif
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Hardly.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1522031/who-else-has-built-a-ridiculously-overpowered-htpc-whats-your-story/90#post_24557797

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Oh, I'm not saying that I'm anywhere near cutting edge, I just found a good deal on an i3. smile.gif
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What did you find for an i3? I'm contemplating a G3220 for a media server and wouldn't mind going to an i3 if it's not too much more. Both of them are overkill to serve up files but I'm not sure that I won't want to make it a Plex server as well.

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I got the i3 4130, 4GB of RAM (1 1600 stick) and an ASUS motherboard for something like $219 for a combo deal after a $20 rebate if memory serves.

It was roughly the same price as the G3220 setup that I had on a Newegg wishlist. Granted, the motherboard I had on Newegg was probably better, but I'm fine with what I got. Boots up darn fast with my Corsair Force 3 SSD.
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I feel bad for anyone that doesn't have a microcenter near them... G3220 and an H81 motherboard for $100... or You can do an H87 like I did for only $30 more. Not to mention you get a great price on 8gigs of memory for buying the motherboard or cpu at the store. The G3220 makes a great HTPC! Though I am building these for family members my main build is an I5 because it also runs my security system, IP cameras, and I do a little gaming on it.

Also the person that mentioned the 1037u's... THEY MAKE AWESOME SECONDARY HTPC'S! I have one in my bedroom and one in my spare bedroom. Using one of these cases -
http://www.mini-box.com/M350-universal-mini-itx-enclosure
With a pico power supply... AWESOME. The front panel also has an enclosed USB port which I hid a small IR receiver on. You can't even see it and the remote controls work perfectly. I wouldn't recommend it as a main HTPC but to just watch live tv, play recordings, and access your media library.. AWESOME.
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You'd be surprised how well the C1037U performs. I don't see any difference between my Pentium G620 or A8-3820 HTPCs and the C1037U for day-to-day HTPC tasks like live TV, working the EPG, 1080p MKV rips, music, etc. except for the size of the external power brick (i.e. much smaller). I just replaced the E350 in my server with a C1037U server motherboard and it flies now. I have a C1037U in the bedroom (though that's my test HTPC for building product so it's always something different) and it was cake to build and runs cool and efficient. I got a BayTrail-D motherboard now I am fooling with that's passive and with the updated BIOS runs Windows 7 x64 that's impressive also. It's kinda crazy how much better the embedded CPUs have gotten since E350. I've even got a AMD E1-2100 passive motherboard that runs OpenELEC like butter and it uses a 12V 3A power brick from an external hard drive for power and doesn't even hit 20W, ever!

To answer the title question though, I'd say if you're not going to get a i3-4x30 to have Full 3D then C1820 or C1037U. The G3320 is in no-mans-land for HTPC between Celeron and i3.

 

 

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What architecture is the C1037U anyway? Haswell? Ivy Bridge?
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What architecture is the C1037U anyway? Haswell? Ivy Bridge?

Ivy Bridge. It's a ULV processor with Intel HD graphics (nearly identical to HD2500 but without some features like QuickSync and full 3D support).

http://ark.intel.com/products/71995/Intel-Celeron-Processor-1037U-2M-Cache-1_80-GHz

http://ark.intel.com/products/series/72000/Intel-Celeron-Processor-1000-Series-for-Mobile

 

 

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That's pretty much whey I ended up buying the G3220 over the 1037u, it's the next gen up. The boards had a couple more features like USB3 headers as well. Idle power seemed like the socketed Pentium could get close to the embedded celeron, and I had a Microcenter gift card burning a hole in my pocket.
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Well there is big performance difference between them:




A real i3 is even bigger difference:



I'll refrain from posting i5/i7 biggrin.gif


I think the main issue is IF you need the power or not - and what you are doing with it. If all you ever will do is stream movies from LAN or the internet you probably don't. Some applications you can get away with a low amount of power and still find enjoyable the experience- other stuff the slow PC makes the entire experience less desirable. I think the intended application now, and potentially ever in the future, is what people need to consider. Nothing wrong with a low power CPU that gets the task done well, and nothing wrong with a more powerful CPU when it's required either. The trick is knowing which is needed when.

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That's pretty much whey I ended up buying the G3220 over the 1037u, it's the next gen up. The boards had a couple more features like USB3 headers as well. Idle power seemed like the socketed Pentium could get close to the embedded celeron, and I had a Microcenter gift card burning a hole in my pocket.

Features, budget, availability -- IMHO, those are the first things to consider when making a choice so I think you made a good one.

 

 

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If you want to save a few bucks over the G3220 get a G1620 or G1820. I believe Microcenter sells one of them for $35. Passmark score is around 2800 on those. Little difference between the G3xxx series. I have a G1620 and it works great.
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