Originally Posted by Nevcairiel
Its not like the new cards are actually much "newer", most r7/r9's are just re-badged 7xxx series cards with slightly adjusted clocks, especially in the mid-range. Only the high-end is actually something thats "new" over the 7xxx series, if you need that absolute gaming performance anyway.
The r7 260 is a cut-down 7790, and the r7 260X is a slightly higher-clocked 7790.
Actually an R260 is a 7770ghz slightly improved and the R260X is a overclocked 7790 also slightly improved. But that correction does not take away from anything you are saying. I do agree with you, and the points you are making.
That said, Anand did take an old card (7750 that was not just old architecture but also rather weak too) which is a little misleading. The entire scope of the process was coming from the view that you needed a PCI express only powered card without any PCI express external power plugs. My first couple posts in this thread explained how that's not really important since any decent PSU has those. On a price and performance perspective that card should be compared to the R265X which is nearly 20% across the board and has a $149 MSRP. True and fact is that the Nvidia uses less watts, and no one can take that away from it.
Historically I always viewed the AMD vs Nvidia thing like this:
AMD = Higher GPU performance in gaming + Better MadVR performance + Less energy efficiency for the same cost
Nvidia = Less GPU performance in gaming + Less MadVR performance + Better energy efficiency for the same cost
Or I guess you could say it like too:
Nvidia = Same GPU performance in gaming + Same performance in MadVR + same energy efficiency for a higher cost.
Its' great that the Nvidia is more power efficient, and it's great it does not need PCI express PSU plugs to power it, but if AMD cards are 20% more powerful at $149 MSRP and support 0-255 out of the box on HDMI I don't see the major attraction.
I kind of wish Nvidia went in for the kill instead of just sitting by idle by bringing the new cards out at a price point/performance level nearly equal to AMD and had better energy efficiency as the advantage. That would be something fantastic; but when you need to pay a premium or suffer a performance penalty for what Nvidia is bringing to the table it loses a lot of it's appeal with the crowd that values performance and value above energy efficiency.