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Looks interesting. Seems a little pricey, but the concept is interesting certainly for an HTPC user. Might eliminate the need for a keyboard AND a remote.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/04/the-150-logitech-harmony-smart-keyboard-is-a-keyboard-for-your-living-room/?ncid=rss&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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Looks an awful lot like my K400 plus $130. Only functions it has over that is it works with your Xbox and PlayStation consoles.
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Smart Keyboard- $150:



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Yea, I think maybe $50 or so would be reasonable, but $150 is very high. It definitely is a K400 with Harmony branding.
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That really is a pitiful money grab, but who's surprised anymore.

I love my Harmony One, and I like the K400r. Got the One refurbished (~$75 iirc), and the K400r was less than $30. The One works with my last-gen consoles too.
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It comes with the Harmony Ultimate Hub which lists for $99.00 alone; so it is not that overpriced.
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I use the Revue and its keyboard to ir blast my tv and WMC extender. I do think it works extremely well, but thats because when I'm in "LIVE TV" mode on the Revue it knows to send navigational commands to the extender. I don't think the hub would work as well since it won't know by default which device and mode you're in. on the Revue live tv flows through the device so it knows when you're watching tv. likewise it knows when your watching Netflix or something else. using and controlling only one tv input makes everything much easier to handle. the Harmony Hub can't know whats turned on when your want to start sending commands.

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It comes with the Harmony Ultimate Hub which lists for $99.00 alone; so it is not that overpriced.

Fair point. Didn't see that at first.
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Looks an awful lot like my K400 plus $130. Only functions it has over that is it works with your Xbox and PlayStation consoles.

I think you missed that the Harmony Keyboard ALSO comes with the Harmony Hub, and can also run one click 'activities' like a Harmony Remote.
Doesnt seem overpriced at all.

Someone pointed out in another thread that there doesnt seem to be backlighting, which if true is a major mistake IMO.

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Well, with the Hub, yes, it's not really overpriced. Unnecessary perhaps.
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Does the Harmony Hub work with the H-900 RF remote?

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Does the Harmony Hub work with the H-900 RF remote?
No. Hub only works with Touch, Ultimate, Smart Control, and Smart Keyboard. Possibly the Link too, but I don't remember if it's hub is different or not. It was garbage anyway.

I think I'll stick with my $20 k400 and $50 Xsight Touch RF remote. I don't need bluetooth or smartphone apps. And using a keyboard as a remote doesn't appeal to me at all.

Seems to be a bit of a disappointment to those simply wanting qwerty and mouse control on a small remote like the Ultimate. If people wanted a nearly full sized keyboard, they'd have one already. The Harmony 800 would have been nice, but it never made it to market.
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I'll stick with my K400 and H-900 then. They work just fine as they are but it sure would be nice to have a back light on that keyboard as well as a more "natural" shift key.

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No. Hub only works with Touch, Ultimate, Smart Control, and Smart Keyboard. Possibly the Link too, but I don't remember if it's hub is different or not. It was garbage anyway.

I think I'll stick with my $20 k400 and $50 Xsight Touch RF remote. I don't need bluetooth or smartphone apps. And using a keyboard as a remote doesn't appeal to me at all.

Seems to be a bit of a disappointment to those simply wanting qwerty and mouse control on a small remote like the Ultimate. If people wanted a nearly full sized keyboard, they'd have one already. The Harmony 800 would have been nice, but it never made it to market.

Even without the keyboard the 800 looks like it would have been a nice remote....layout looks pretty nice.

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Got a few more details about the Smart Keyboard from the Logitech forum:

- Not backlit
- Programmed via smartphone app, not Myharmony.com
- Works only through its own hub, not standalone and not with other hubs
- Battery life is about the same as the k400 (12 months)

As the name implies, this is essentially a Smart Control but with a full keyboard and mouse.

It does seem to be generating more interest than the Ultimate One which was also just released. It is essentially an IR-only Ultimate (no hub, no smartphone app).
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I think you missed that the Harmony Keyboard ALSO comes with the Harmony Hub, and can also run one click 'activities' like a Harmony Remote.
Doesnt seem overpriced at all.

Someone pointed out in another thread that there doesnt seem to be backlighting, which if true is a major mistake IMO.

I just saw this in the Best Buy add today. I use harmony remotes in my theater and living room so it seems like a pretty viable option for htpc use. I've wanted a backlit keyboard too since the theater is pretty dark but it seems like not may options if any are out there. Is this because the battery would run down to fast being wireless and backlit at the same time?

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I have a k400 and its great...

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