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post #31 of 59 Old 06-26-2014, 10:25 PM
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it really works totally fine never found a disc that didn't work.
but i normally use it one time to have a look at the menu and then i go back to MPC-BE
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Here's an example of an older XBMC solution. Don't know about the cheapest hardware this will run on.
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=116724

Since we want the cheapest possible hardware, you don't need a 120GB SSD or even an SSD at all, or even any new hardware for that matter. To further cut costs, you'll ultimately need to look as some sort of Linux based solution as well.
Unless a new player was released yesterday, there is currently no (reliable if any) solution for3D blu-ray with menus in linux...
XBMC for the moment only does SBS and top-bottom 3D, frame packed is not supported, let alone menu...

IMO, $200 for an HTPC like you want is wishful thinking at this point in time... maybe in a year from now it might become reality when 4K and Dolby Atmos finally take the center stage...
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Whatever. He just can't build or buy a HTPC that supports BR 3D (ISO or real disc) with full menus for $200. He should expect $400 (hardware+software) or $250 (hardware alone) minimum .

Those who recommend free BD navigator/player perhaps have never used it? It's still pre-alpha.
I tried XBMC and MediaPortal with build-in menu support, they are very very limited and doesn't support Java. Only 30% discs shows the menu.
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Works, kind of.

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Known issues
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- BD-J is still incomplete, a lot of stuff is not supported.
(readme.txt in test-262)
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Do you know if XBMC uses this filter?
Anyways, I hope all compatibility issues will be soon solved so there is no need for another BD player...
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most part of XBMC is not directshow based (that's why i will never use it) and this is a directshow filter so i don't think so. but they most likely use both the same lib as source.
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what about these new amd sempron apu they have a 82xx in there can they do 3D?
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what about these new amd sempron apu they have a 82xx in there can they do 3D?
Athlon 5350 APU quad-core supports MVC hardware decoding, Frame Packing 3D and HD audio bitstreaming (I tested). So Sempron 3850 APU maybe yes. Then total cost would be closer to $200. You still need 4GB memory even though Athlon/Sempron APU only supports single channel memory (80-90% memory load with 2GB, resulting in stuttering video playback).

- Sempron 3850, $38
- MSI AM1I mini-ITX, $36
- DDR3-1600 4GB x 1, $35
- ADATA SP600 64GB SSD, $46
- In Win BP671 case & fan, $55
- Total $210

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i can't find good information on them but they are a lot cheaper and the mainboards too.
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Save more money and wait until you can afford to do it right instead of cutting yourself off at $200.

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As long as you stay in the DXVA2 video playback framework, a $200 system is just fine, a $400 system adds nothing in essence, in particular for 1080p/i contents.
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as long as you play around with HEVC. h264 10, other codecs orthings like that a CPU is not really important.
so everything from BD dvd and TV transportstreams are no problem at all they are all full DXVA compatible.
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I think OP is done with this thread. In another forum, he decided to buy a Pio BD player and load a hacked firmware that would play ISO.

Obviously the OP found full ISO playback with menus, etc. is necessary, but is all that really worth the extra expense? I'm happy playing an mkv of the main title on my cheap little Echoes, served by my ultra-cheap PC. I mean, if you must have the full experience, why not just play the actual disc on an actual disc player? Especially if you can't afford an expensive build, seems like a no-brainer to make a few compromises.
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G1620 $35
4GB ram $30
Case $20
PSU $20
Motherboard $25
1TB HDD $50
Total $180

Windows 8 and Blu-ray software can be found for free if you don't care about going down that route.
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Windows 8 and Blu-ray software can be found for free if you don't care about going down that route.
The parts can be found for free if you don't care about going down that route.

RAID protection is only for failed drives. That's it. It's no replacement for a proper backup.
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G1620 $35.
This one does not support Frame Packing 3D, that's the requirement of the OP (but he went away ).
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The parts can be found for free if you don't care about going down that route.
Not quite. There is a difference between downloading a copy and robbing your local electronics store.

One is theft and the other is copyright infringement.
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Not quite.
Of course the parts can absolutely be found for free if you don't care about going down "that route."

There's no "not quite" about it.

You're suggesting people can obtain software through nefarious means. I simply pointed out that nefarious means isn't limited to software. You can try and justify it, or rationalize it all day long. It doesn't make what I said any less correct.

RAID protection is only for failed drives. That's it. It's no replacement for a proper backup.
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Of course the parts can absolutely be found for free if you don't care about going down "that route."

There's no "not quite" about it.

You're suggesting people can obtain software through nefarious means. I simply pointed out that nefarious means isn't limited to software. You can try and justify it, or rationalize it all day long. It doesn't make what I said any less correct.
I really don't care what your stance on software piracy is, it's not relevant to the question at hand. "Htpc under 200$ that can play hd videos"
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I really don't care what your stance on software piracy is, it's not relevant to the question at hand. "Htpc under 200$ that can play hd videos"
You brought it up, Chief. Not me. Piracy is a touchy subject around here. I think you'll find if you keep bringing it up, you'll soon feel the wrath of the admins. You might not care what my stance is, but you might want to check up on the site's stance. You're walking a pretty fine line.

Oh, and if you'd bother to read the thread before throwing out smarmy replies you'd know that bringing up software at this point is not relevant to the question anyway.

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Don't count software only hardware.
That's post #5 from the OP.

So why again did you bring up software piracy in a thread about hardware?

RAID protection is only for failed drives. That's it. It's no replacement for a proper backup.
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Why are you, chief?
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As a purely intellectual puzzle, trying to build a $200 htpc might be mildly entertaining, but to try to actually put 1 into use is extremely short sighted and quite honestly, foolish. I honestly believe this hobby is not about just 'getting it done', it's about 'getting it done WELL'

If your not gunna go top shelf, or as close as you can, ...don't bother.
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Why are you, chief?
That's the best you've got?

You come into a thread that was already abandoned by the OP, you advocate software piracy which is clearly a violation of forum decorum, and when you get called out on it, instead of just dropping it (or editing your post) you try to rationalize it, change the subject, and blame other people.

Bravo.

Wanna go for the superfecta and throw in a "everyone else is doing it!" while you're at it?

Regardless of my stance on the subject, you shouldn't be advocating software piracy here. Period. Full Stop. Ask any admin or mod and they'll tell you the same thing.

RAID protection is only for failed drives. That's it. It's no replacement for a proper backup.
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That's the best you've got?

You come into a thread that was already abandoned by the OP, you advocate software piracy which is clearly a violation of forum decorum, and when you get called out on it, instead of just dropping it (or editing your post) you try to rationalize it, change the subject, and blame other people.

Bravo.

Wanna go for the superfecta and throw in a "everyone else is doing it!" while you're at it?

Regardless of my stance on the subject, you shouldn't be advocating software piracy here. Period. Full Stop. Ask any admin or mod and they'll tell you the same thing.
Yawn.gif

Never once said he should or even explained how to, just that it was an option to get the price under $200. Nothing more, nothing less. Glad the forum police was here to save the day.

If you really want to go down that route, ya it's pretty clear Microsoft doesn't care who is using Windows as long as they are using it.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/21/3...on-key-pirates

This loophole to get a free copy of Windows 8 was open for two months, covered by the mainstream press, and they did nothing to stop it. Why? Because they don't care. Installed userbase is all they care about.

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Regardless of my stance on the subject, you shouldn't be advocating software piracy here. Period. Full Stop. Ask any admin or mod and they'll tell you the same thing.

RAID protection is only for failed drives. That's it. It's no replacement for a proper backup.
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Last post wins.

OP: your best bet is to wait for the next street riot and then do a smash and grab to get your fully working under $200 HTPC.

Don't take my word for it though.

At least you're not asking for it to be under $100 like in the XBMC forums.


 

 

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I think it is possible to build a very capable HTPC for under $200, but OP would have to be creative.

I am writing this on a $100 Desktop that has:

AMD Athlon II X4: $50
ECS motherboard: $10 After rebate
ATI Radeon 5400 Video card: $10 After rebate
8 GB (2x4GB) of DDR2 RAM: $20 After rebate
Windows 7 copy: $10 at University store (don't ask me, I can't buy you one, but if you or someone you know is a student or employee at a major university, then you can get your own copy for $10, download, no physical disk)
Microsoft Office 2010: FREE at university store (download, no physical disk)
Case: Used an old case
PSU: Came with the used case.
Keyboard/mouse: $10 for combo.

Someone with a much bigger budget (200% of mine) can do lots more.

6 TV's in the house on FiOS and we only pay $4.99/month to connect them all!!! Power to the CableCard and WMC7!!!
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It's easy to get a system that can do HD videos for $200. Any used dual core machine with a cheap video card (6450 for $15) should work just fine. The problem is that those systems end up sucking in the long run. I've done that kind of thing and I always end up with upgraditis. I should have just done it right from the start. I like renethx suggestions...

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