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Htpc until 200$ that it can play hd videos

I just want to guide me if i can create or buy one htpc that can do the following.

Because as it tallied there isn't any media player until 200$ that it can play all these videos one person here it suggest me to create one cheap htpc to do all that.
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For FULL BLURAY MENU, you have to buy a commercial BD software player like PowerDVD, ~$80. You also have to buy Windows OS, ~$90. So software alone already costs $170. Cheapest hardware that is capable of BR 3D costs ~$240 such as Intel NUC DN2820FYKH (this particular system does not support HD audio bitstreaming). Total cost is $410.
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So even we exception the software this user has completely wrong correct?
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I don't think you can find a HTPC (hardware) for $50 even at ebay that supports BR 3D. The cheapest processor that supports BR 3D is AMD A6-5400K / A6-6400K, that alone costs ~$60 retail.

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Don't count software only hardware.

Even only with hardware how much do you believe i can create one hdtpc that can play all bluray 3d/2d with menu?

Any android pc doesn't do anything or it is useless?
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You guys just can't find deals like I can ;-)

But seriously, my $50 system won't do 3D and does not include software costs.

If you don't insist on ISO, can't you get by with a lot less?
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So tell us where we can find htpc like yours or from where we can buy a ready compilation like yours htpc?
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If you build your own, you should expect $300 or more for hardware alone. E.g.

CPU: A6-6400K, $64
CPU Cooler: Stock
MB: FM2A78M-ITX+, $88
Mem: F3-14900CL9D-4GBXM, 2GB x 2, $50
GPU: HD 8470D included in CPU
SSD: Crucial MX100 128GB, $75
Case & PSU: BQS656, $85
Total: $360

You can go with cheaper components (e.g. cheaper microATX motherboard, cheaper 64GB SSD, cheaper microATX case), but even then the total cost will be ~$300.
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even an old ion can do blu ray 3d. the problem is side by side blu ray. you can forget a amd system they can't use DXVA on things like that. so you need a real cpu like the a6 renethx is talking about.
so a intel atom with 3d bd support should be a cheap way intel DXVA decoder are the fastest on the market.
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If you build your own, you should expect $300 or more for hardware alone. E.g.

CPU: A6-6400K, $64
CPU Cooler: Stock
MB: FM2A78M-ITX+, $88
Mem: F3-14900CL9D-4GBXM, 2GB x 2, $50
GPU: HD 8470D included in CPU
SSD: Crucial MX100 128GB, $75
Case & PSU: BQS656, $85
Total: $360

You can go with cheaper components (e.g. cheaper microATX motherboard, cheaper 64GB SSD, cheaper microATX case), but even then the total cost will be ~$300.
So WHERE IS THE until 200$?????

So you make yourself WRONG.....
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From fits79's posts, I thought he wanted to output Frame Packing 3D (that's the format PowerDVD outputs from normal BR 3D, unless his 3D display is Row-interleaved 3D or Checkerboard 3D). The GPUs supporting MVC hardware decoding and Frame packing 3D are

IGPU in AMD A6-5400K, A6-6400K and higher
IGPU in Intel Core i3 (LGA1155/LGA1150) and higher
AMD Radeon HD 6xxx and higher
NVIDIA GeForce GT(X) 4xx and higher
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So WHERE IS THE until 200$?????

So you make yourself WRONG.....
If you mean "lower than 200 USD" by "until 200$", then simply there is no such system supporting BR 3D.
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So WHERE IS THE until 200$?????

So you make yourself WRONG.....
Until $200 doesn't make much sense. Colloquially the way you should phrase it would be "costs less than $200"

Looking around at all your posts, you don't seem to be very appreciative of any of the responses you get

As to your question, here goes:

There are not any media players or full 3d htpcs that support full blu ray menus for ripped files for under $200. Enjoy
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If you mean "lower than 200 USD" by "until 200$", then simply there is no such system supporting BR 3D.
So what is the lower price that i can find or create a HomeTheaterPC that can play even 3d bluray with menu's

As the price i believe based on that post
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You guys just can't find deals like I can ;-)

But seriously, my $50 system won't do 3D and does not include software costs.

If you don't insist on ISO, can't you get by with a lot less?
i can find one htpc that it cost lower than 200$ so....
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he never said something about the used hardware so you can take that as you like if you know what i mean.

BTW. there is a freeware player for BD menu it's pretty beta but works and of cause only works with decrypted disc.

and even if it's possible to do it for 50 that doesn't it's a good choice...
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Nice words from everyone...

Bluntly put... you will NOT find and CANNOT build an HTPC for under $200 that will do blu-ray 3D with menus...

Decent hardware alone will be more than $200...

The only other feasible alternative is to start searching ebay and forums for second hand hardware... even with this, there is no guarantee you end up spending less than $200...
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So what is the lower price that i can find or create a HomeTheaterPC that can play even 3d bluray with menu's
Look at my previous post. Basically that's the cheapest system. You can cut the cost by going with slightly cheaper components, for example:

- CPU: A6-5400K (-$4)
- MB: GA-F2A78M-D3H (-$22); this is a microATX mb.
- SSD: ADATA SP600 64GB (-$30)
- Case & PSU: APEX DM-387 with 275W PSU (-$31)
- Total: $273

You have to add Windows 7 or 8.1 (~$90), and a commercial BR 3D software player (e.g. PowerDVD 14 'Ultra', $80). And a Blu-ray reader optical disk drive, ~$50, to read BR 3D discs (every BD drive can read BR 3D).
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http://www.intel.com/support/graphic...#whichgraphics

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Intel® Pentium™ & Celeron™ Processors with Intel® HD Graphics (formerly codenamed Bay Trail)
http://ark.intel.com/de/products/cod...Trail#@Desktop (german)
Celeron/pentium can do 3d too. and a mainboard for these with HDMI 1.4 cost 40 €(uATX) the cpu it self ~50 €.
i can't find the information about Intel® InTru™ 3D on the J1850 page i'm confused.

i can't recommend this at all but...

you can run windows 8 from a USB stick X-) (windows 7 doesn't work) and you can use Windows 7/8 with 2 Gb ram (don't open a browser in the background...)
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OP never said anything about ripping, only playing back ISO. So BD drive and software aren't needed. I assume these ISOs are obtained by other means. Remember this is just an alternative to a similarly priced stand alone streaming box. So all it has to do is play, not rip or store.
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he linked side by side 3d

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01. Play all 2d and 3d movie files like m2ts, mkv(Even 3d side by side or top - bottom), bd-iso, ts e.t.c.
02. Play FULL BLURAY MENU and not the lite that has many media players of one complete bluray movie rip into one bd-iso file
03. All sounds like dts-hd, dts, truehd, ac3 and can downconvert it into simle stereo for a 3dtv or simple tv
04. It has ethernet port so i can stream movie files e.t.c. from my windows7 laptop without dlna program
and all mkv is a very hard thing to ask for....
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For FULL BLURAY MENU, you have to buy a commercial BD software player like PowerDVD, ~$80. You also have to buy Windows OS, ~$90. So software alone already costs $170. Cheapest hardware that is capable of BR 3D costs ~$240 such as Intel NUC DN2820FYKH (this particular system does not support HD audio bitstreaming). Total cost is $410.
You forgot to add the cost of memory and a hard drive to that total. A 120GB SSD will cost about $60 and a 4GB SODIMM will cost about $30-40.
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Yup,

Barebone: DN2820FYKH, $134
Memory: DDR3L-1600 SO-DIMM 4GB x 1, $40
SSD: ADATA SP600 64GB, $46 (at Newegg)
Total: $220

(I assume Bay Trail-M supports Frame packing 3D, that could be wrong.) Anything missing?

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Intel® InTru™ 3D-Technologie No
http://ark.intel.com/de/products/790...up-to-2_39-GHz

that's pretty bad intel...
will they ever learn that a good igpu is best placed in a "slow" cpu....
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Here's an example of an older XBMC solution. Don't know about the cheapest hardware this will run on.
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=116724

Since we want the cheapest possible hardware, you don't need a 120GB SSD or even an SSD at all, or even any new hardware for that matter. To further cut costs, you'll ultimately need to look as some sort of Linux based solution as well.
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so you get menu on linux not bad....
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Intel® InTru™ 3D-Technologie No
http://ark.intel.com/de/products/790...up-to-2_39-GHz

that's pretty bad intel...
will they ever learn that a good igpu is best placed in a "slow" cpu....
I got the information from this post. But his display (LG LW650S) supports various 3D formats (Frame Sequential / Side by Side / Top and Bottom / Checker Board / Frame Packing) and he didn't mention anything about "Frame Packing" (all of them except for Frame Packing can be sent within the pre-HDMI 1.4a framework). So I don't trust this post entirely.

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so you get menu on linux not bad....
only DVD and an extremely small scattering of decrypted BD
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For FULL BLURAY MENU, you have to buy a commercial BD software player like PowerDVD, ~$80. You also have to buy Windows OS, ~$90. So software alone already costs $170. Cheapest hardware that is capable of BR 3D costs ~$240 such as Intel NUC DN2820FYKH (this particular system does not support HD audio bitstreaming). Total cost is $410.
Yup, bluray on HTPC is expensive. You can by a decent stand alone player with netflix, amazon instant, etc for $50 on sale.
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Remember, OP doesn't want to play or even rip any actual blu-rays, only to play the ISO's. Standalone players won't generally do that. And streaming boxes capable of doing it are also very expensive.
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Whatever. He just can't build or buy a HTPC that supports BR 3D (ISO or real disc) with full menus for $200. He should expect $400 (hardware+software) or $250 (hardware alone) minimum .

Those who recommend free BD navigator/player perhaps have never used it? It's still pre-alpha.

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