Originally Posted by balky
Assuming the licensing cost is that much, a crippled version that will not allow you to install desktop apps like MS office for example, and one that boots straight into WMC with limited options like installing hardware drivers and additional codecs... go figure...
But I think we're talking about a
$0.5 (up to $2) $2.50-$3.00
licensing fee here... extract below is from your link...
Are you not so worth it as a paying client...
IMO, I think using the licensing fee as an excuse is like making a storm out of a glass of water...
Fixed that for you. A Dolby Decoder isn't going to do you much good for DVDs without an MPEG-2 decoder to go with it.
You're making a storm over the idea of paying for an additional component that has a tangible as well as intangible cost associated with it. Microsoft isn't making that storm. you are. You seem to think you're entitled to a product that you want, at the price you want, just because you want it. Microsoft isn't in business to cater to you, they're in business to make a profit. If they weren't in business to make a profit, they wouldn't be in business.. they'd be a charity.
And my worth as a paying customer has no bearing on the discussion. The issue at hand is the worth of the product they are providing. Is WMC not worth $10? If you don't think so, that's fine. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. But just because you are a paying customer doesn't make you entitled to that particular product any more than you'd be entitled to get Office for free. In fact if you're familiar with your computer history (hopefully moreso than you are with your current events) you'd know that MS has been litigated as well as punished by the federal government for anti-competitive behavior. Care to guess what that behavior was?
It was including software for free with Windows
. (among other things)
After bundling the Internet Explorer web browser into its Windows operating system in the late 1990s (without requiring a separate purchase)
and acquiring a dominant share in the web browser market, the antitrust case United States v. Microsoft was brought against the company.
Anyway... the point is that you seem to be under the impression that Microsoft should spent $372,000,000 (conservative estimate based on numbers from the previous article) just so you can have WMC at no additional charge. So as a paying customer, do you think you're worth $372,000,000? Because that's the argument you're trying to make when you say you're worth it as a customer. When the argument becomes about you instead of the product you're buying, you're saying that you
are worth $372,000,000 to Microsoft.
That said, your "solution" for providing a separate version of Windows that has WMC included still doesn't address the alleged problem of MS charging for the decoder licenses. You're still going to be paying for them if you buy your hypothetical WMC Edition. It just isn't an "extra" cost above the OS. It would be no different from buying Windows 7 which has the decoders (and the license fees) included for everyone regardless of whether they use WMC or not. Sure your solution would fix the issue of people that don't use WMC having to pay for the decoders anyway, but checking your above posts, that wasn't an issue you raised.
Originally Posted by balky
I'm not saying there hasn't been an improvement in WMC, and you probably paid separately for it which is not bad either... also really good for you to have it working the way you want... but come back in two years from now and let us know if you haven't had to format / re-install one or two times or haven't had any problems due to constant system patching and updates...
Till then it's Linux all the way...
Actually, I didn't pay separately for WMC. I've been using Windows 7 on my media center PC for about 3 years now. I've been using it as a cable box replacement ever since I got my Ceton InfiniTV tuners (one of the first batches shipped after release) and it has been rock solid the whole time outside of an SSD that failed. Also worth noting that I had an HP z565 running Vista WMC for a couple of years prior to the current build I have, and never had any major issues with it either.
So I think it's really cute that you managed to get your nice little box running with your cheap software, and its really swell that you're so proud of yourself for doing so. Good for you. But you can drop the condescending attitude because unless some unforeseen forces make some major changes, your nice little box will never be able to work with flagged cable content, in any way shape or form, and even a couple years from now, barring hardware issues, I expect I'll still be enjoying my trouble-free WMC box as I have for the past several years.
Or perhaps you can share some more terribly out of date anecdotes with us and lecture people on how bad analog modems are because they tie up your voice line, or how we should stop driving cars because leaded gas is bad.
But the only takeaway I can find in your post seems to be "Don't use Windows Vista." So if I wake up back in 2009, I'll be sure to heed that advice.
My advice to you would be to stop lecturing people about a product that you have no experience with, and stop complaining about a product that you have no intention of using.