AVS Forum

AVS Forum (http://www.avsforum.com/forum/)
-   Home Theater Computers (http://www.avsforum.com/forum/26-home-theater-computers/)
-   -   Reviving old XP LT w/ new techonogoly (http://www.avsforum.com/forum/26-home-theater-computers/1609106-reviving-old-xp-lt-w-new-techonogoly.html)

stevethebrain 07-19-2014 06:39 AM

Reviving old XP LT w/ new techonogoly
 
Reviving old XP LT w/ new techonogoly

this XP LT has a IDE internal interface.

I look at the BIOS boot order

1.USB rest is blank

2.SSD

3.DVD

Ect.

So is it possible to boot from a USB connected HDD or SSDusing this interface?





http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812232002

I would also like to use this device to recover data from another IDE HDD.



Note this LT will not be used as a portable but like astationary desktop.





Or maybe this



Reviving old XP LT w/ new SSD inserted into the DVD driveslot?



http://www.microsatacables.com/9-5mm-ide-optical-bay-hard-drive-adapter-caddy/



?1.can I adjust the BIOS boot order and use the DVD port asa boot drive?



?2.can I use a modern SSD in a XP LT?



What do you Guy’s think about squezzing a little more out ofthe XP LT?
Thanks STB

bulls 07-19-2014 02:36 PM

why?
do you have files on that laptop? probably be more important to back them up on an external hdd

not sure of costs but likely 30$ adapter + 100$ ssd
maybe something like this to adapt the internal IDE to a SATA connection for the ssd
then you'll have to see if the ssd will work with that adapter and bios
do u have an ssd?

depends how good a hardware you have there... is it worth it? there might be cheaper laptops 400-500$ that are more powerful

ikkuranus 07-19-2014 04:34 PM

Any computer that predates sata is essentially worthless. Just donate or recycle it.
A ssd would be crippled by connecting it via ide or usb2 adapters.

stevethebrain 07-20-2014 04:33 AM

my Win7 LT three years old is starting to over heat would like a backup LT.
 
So is it possible to boot from a USB connected HDD using this interface?





http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812232002


cost wise I'm thinking $19. for adaptor and $40. for a refurb. Western Digital RE3 1 TB Black.

Aleron Ives 07-20-2014 02:56 PM

Whether you can boot from USB depends upon your BIOS, and I wouldn't expect a laptop BIOS from the XP era to support it, especially if it's using IDE.

bryansj 07-20-2014 04:09 PM

If you are just trying to backup data then get a cheap ide to sata adapter and put the drive in your desktop.

ikkuranus 07-21-2014 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevethebrain (Post 25890002)
my Win7 LT three years old is starting to over heat would like a backup LT.
So is it possible to boot from a USB connected HDD using this interface?





http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812232002

my Win7 LT three years old is starting to over heat would like a backup LT.

cost wise I'm thinking $19. for adaptor and $40. for a refurb. Western Digital RE3 1 TB Black.

If your 3 year old car started leaking coolant would you replace the tires on your 10 year old car instead of fixing the problem on the newer vehicle?
I can appreciate wanting a backup but you really should take care of the problems on current machine instead of trying to fix something that has long outlived its usefulness. (IE clean out the dust and probably reapply thermal paste)

I know the car analogy isn't exactly the best but it still gets the point across.

pylor 07-21-2014 06:38 AM

USB2 transfers are horribly slow, as in MAX 64MB/s. It's not worth it, I'm not sure what you're trying to do but buying that adaptor to try and run with an old computer just won't work well. iirc, most motherboards ended up with Ultra ATA/133 as their max transfer rates for IDE/PATA, so that would be a max transfer rate of 133MB/s, which is MUCH faster than USB2. You'd actually be slowing down any computer going from IDE to USB2

stevethebrain 07-22-2014 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikkuranus (Post 25912018)
If your 3 year old car started leaking coolant would you replace the tires on your 10 year old car instead of fixing the problem on the newer vehicle?
I can appreciate wanting a backup but you really should take care of the problems on current machine instead of trying to fix something that has long outlived its usefulness. (IE clean out the dust and probably reapply thermal paste)

I know the car analogy isn't exactly the best but it still gets the point across.

good analogy.

however this older LT was a $1400. at the time and preformed (net browsing and computer stuff) as well as this newer LT Acer aspire 5742. $650.

This 5742 has know issues w/ overheating after a few years of dust buildup.

I've blown canned compressed air into the intake of the CPU fan and also tryed to suck dust out w/ the electrolux vacumn cleaner, it still on occasion
heats up quick like when I have

a bunch of net. windows open really heats up when watching videos like I've observed 78*
up to 82* then started wondering why the PC shut itself down.

Cleaning the old dried up thermal phaste would requirecompletely disassembling the LT way more work than I care to get involved w/ I’dprobaley break something .



Quote:

Originally Posted by pylor (Post 25914970)
USB2 transfers are horribly slow, as in MAX 64MB/s. It's not worth it, I'm not sure what you're trying to do but buying that adaptor to try and run with an old computer just won't work well. iirc, most motherboards ended up with Ultra ATA/133 as their max transfer rates for IDE/PATA, so that would be a max transfer rate of 133MB/s, which is MUCH faster than USB2. You'd actually be slowing down any computer going from IDE to USB2

OK so the USB2 should'nt be concidered what about the internal IDE to a SATA connection in post # 2 remember this LT won't be used as a portable anymore it will be stationary like a DT.
STB

ikkuranus 07-22-2014 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevethebrain (Post 25940890)
good analogy.

however this older LT was a $1400. at the time and preformed (net browsing and computer stuff) as well as this newer LT Acer aspire 5742. $650.

This 5742 has know issues w/ overheating after a few years of dust buildup.

I've blown canned compressed air into the intake of the CPU fan and also tryed to suck dust out w/ the electrolux vacumn cleaner, it still on occasion
heats up quick like when I have

a bunch of net. windows open really heats up when watching videos like I've observed 78*
up to 82* then started wondering why the PC shut itself down.

Cleaning the old dried up thermal phaste would requirecompletely disassembling the LT way more work than I care to get involved w/ I’dprobaley break something .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0ht9ku-Z1Y



OK so the USB2 should'nt be concidered what about the internal IDE to a SATA connection in post # 2 remember this LT won't be used as a portable anymore it will be stationary like a DT.
STB

I have taken apart a similar acer laptop and the only thing you really need to worry about is removing all power sources prior to opening it and to be gentle with the flat flex cables.

Obviously the above video goes a bit further then you need but it clearly shows how to take it apart. What I noticed about that particular laptop was the dust actually was trapped between the fan and the heatsink and even the metro data vac wouldn't clear it from the outside.

If you still don't wanna take the chance I'm sure a local place would service it for you.

As for your older laptop sure you can get that ide>sata adapter for the optical bay and run any modern 2.5 drive.
Unless this machine is going to be used without internet or behind a firewall that blocks everything except the few sites you visit then Win xp should be avoided at all costs. A problem you might run into is most computers that came with Win xp almost certainly don't have any video drivers for windows 7 and above. That being said you might be able to get drivers for vista but honestly nobody in their right mind upgrades to vista anymore. Only logical choice is to use some flavor of linux. (assuming you still require internet on that machine)

bryansj 07-22-2014 10:44 AM

I vote for him to install Linux on the XP laptop.

ajhieb 07-24-2014 08:21 PM

If you're wanting to get an SSD working in an old IDE laptop, this is probably your best option...

http://www.addonics.com/products/adms25ide.php

Get that and something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226369


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:19 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.