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Guys I need an advice, could you help?

I have a GTX 960 and a 4K TV. Currently I'm using Super-xbr 100 with chroma and luma upscaling to 4K, it's ok but I can see the GPU is like 70% used and the fan is spinning a lot producing noise. I tried NNEDI3 32 and the new NGU but it cannot handle it at all...it's really superslow and unwatchable. Based on this I was planning to buy a Gtx 1060 but I'm having doubts...it is better to spend some more money and get a 1070 or it wouldn't change much? By the money point of view actually there is some difference so I'd like to understand if it is worth it or not.

Any reply is appreciated.
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Guys I need an advice, could you help?



I have a GTX 960 and a 4K TV. Currently I'm using Super-xbr 100 with chroma and luma upscaling to 4K, it's ok but I can see the GPU is like 70% used and the fan is spinning a lot producing noise. I tried NNEDI3 32 and the new NGU but it cannot handle it at all...it's really superslow and unwatchable. Based on this I was planning to buy a Gtx 1060 but I'm having doubts...it is better to spend some more money and get a 1070 or it wouldn't change much? By the money point of view actually there is some difference so I'd like to understand if it is worth it or not.



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Why are you having the GPU do the upscaling? Why not have your TV do it?

Just curious. IMO the technology has not progressed sufficiently for me to bother with a 4K HTPC, but mainly because I'd want something quiet and efficient.

What about a GTX 1050?


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Guys I need an advice, could you help?

I have a GTX 960 and a 4K TV. Currently I'm using Super-xbr 100 with chroma and luma upscaling to 4K, it's ok but I can see the GPU is like 70% used and the fan is spinning a lot producing noise. I tried NNEDI3 32 and the new NGU but it cannot handle it at all...it's really superslow and unwatchable. Based on this I was planning to buy a Gtx 1060 but I'm having doubts...it is better to spend some more money and get a 1070 or it wouldn't change much? By the money point of view actually there is some difference so I'd like to understand if it is worth it or not.

Any reply is appreciated.
Try the latest v0.91.1 with the following settings:

1) chroma upscaling: bicubic60 ar
2) luma doubling: NGU-Low
3) chroma doubling: disabled
4) image upscaling: bicubic60 ar

Hopefully your GT 960 can handle that?
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Why are you having the GPU do the upscaling? Why not have your TV do it?
Not sure if you're serious.

Madvr does a much better job than the TV.
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Guys I need an advice, could you help?

I have a GTX 960 and a 4K TV. Currently I'm using Super-xbr 100 with chroma and luma upscaling to 4K, it's ok but I can see the GPU is like 70% used and the fan is spinning a lot producing noise. I tried NNEDI3 32 and the new NGU but it cannot handle it at all...it's really superslow and unwatchable. Based on this I was planning to buy a Gtx 1060 but I'm having doubts...it is better to spend some more money and get a 1070 or it wouldn't change much? By the money point of view actually there is some difference so I'd like to understand if it is worth it or not.

Any reply is appreciated.
I had the gtx 960 and it could not handle the higher madvr settings after I upgraded to a 4k tv and switched in a gtx 970 from my other machine which worked way better. I just tried a gtx 1050 ti and immediately put it back in the box to return. I bought a used gtx 980 on eBay because the gtx 1070 and 1080 are way too expensive right now.
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Not sure if you're serious.

Madvr does a much better job than the TV.
I don't doubt that MadVR does a better job than the TV. I just question wether or not it's worth spending $500+ on a noisy, hot graphics card to run MadVR.

For many (perhaps even most) of us, we don't sit close enough to our TV's to discern any difference between 1080p and 4K in the first place. So, unless one is very close to the TV, the difference between two different upscalers should be relatively imperceptible. Correct? I don't have a 4K TV currently, but I also don't sit close enough to see a real difference between HD and UHD (according to various resolution charts).

Genuinely curious about this because I just got a 4K capable AVR and I'm weighing a switch to a 4K display (and a 4K HTPC).
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The latest "NGU-Low" algorithm I just released today should make it possible for relatively cheap GPUs to do high quality 4K upscaling. No need to spend anywhere near $500.
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Nice! Downloading now. My biggest issue always seems to be my card not able to handle upscaling to uhd the majority of 1080p or 720p videos I download without bringing my card to it's knees or looking bad.

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Really thinking about getting a htpc amen aomething like plex or jriver or kodi. I don't have a 4K projector but it's a jvc rs46. Wonder if it's worth the headache in setting up
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Try the latest v0.91.1 with the following settings:

1) chroma upscaling: bicubic60 ar
2) luma doubling: NGU-Low
3) chroma doubling: disabled
4) image upscaling: bicubic60 ar

Hopefully your GT 960 can handle that?
well it should be able to that if 960 has 4Gb vram with 2Gb it should be impossible.

i'm pretty sure my 960 was able to do FHD -> UHD 23p with nnedi 3 32
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Nothing wrong with a good "old" GTX 960 (4GB, in my case). I used to upscale everything with Super-xbr + SR1-3. Have since switched to NGU, and can now do the following for 1080p/23p -> 4K/23p:

Chroma upscaling: NGU low
Luma doubling: NGU low
Chroma doubling: NGU low

Render times between 36-39ms. Thanks Mathias!
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I can now run NGU high across the board with my GTX 1070 no issue 720/1080p23 -> 2160p23. Really impressed with the new algo Madshi!
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Glad to hear that!

@VBB , might be worth trying if luma doubling at NGU Med and chroma doubling disabled (replacement: image upscaling = Catrom AR) would improve image quality slightly? Generally, luma is much more important than chroma.
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Glad to hear that!

@VBB , might be worth trying if luma doubling at NGU Med and chroma doubling disabled (replacement: image upscaling = Catrom AR) would improve image quality slightly? Generally, luma is much more important than chroma.
Like this:

  • Chroma: Lanczos 3 +AR or NGU low quality
  • Image: Catmull-Rom + AR
  • Double Luma: 2.0x or greater - NGU medium quality
  • Double Chroma: Off
  • Upscaling refinement: soften edges (1)
  • Artifact removal - Debanding: Medium/High
  • Artifact removal - Deringing: Off
  • Image enhancements: Off
  • Dithering: Error Diffusion 2

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@madshi Thanks for the tip. You must be tired of repeating yourself over and over LOL. Like some of the guys on doom, I keep "forgetting" that luma>chroma I tested all kinds of resolution/fps combos last night, and I'm happy to say that in all cases I was able to make the switch to NGU (in various different combinations). I did like Super-xbr very much for a long time, but NGU's sharpness is pretty incredible.

@Onkyoman I can now use this with even slightly lower render times than what I mentioned above:

  • Chroma upscaling: NGU medium
  • Image upscaling: Catmull-Rom + AR
  • Double Luma: NGU medium quality
  • Double Chroma: Off
  • Upscaling refinement: none
  • Artifact removal - Debanding: Low/Low
  • Artifact removal - Deringing: Off
  • Image enhancements: Off
  • Dithering: Ordered

I know you feel like you need to have "Soften Edges" ticked with NGU, but I haven't found a reason to do this (yet). It's damn sharp, but it doesn't look cartoonish to me. At least not from my where I sit, which is about 12 feet from a 70" TV.
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So two quick questions that I have.

I notice that the recommended video card is an Nvidia one. Is there any confirmation that the other thread that says the Nvidia cards with new drivers are not working properly? I just bought a new GTX 1060 6GB card and if its not going to work properly, I would rather exchange it now.

Second, It says that Windows 7 is one of the acceptable OS. I have read that windows 7 does a poor job of upscaling 4k content and that most people recommend going to Windows 10. I would MUCH rather stick to 7 however if its not going to properly display 4K, its not worth me keeping it with as much as I have invested in the rest of my setup. I plan to use MadVR and Kodi PS for my system, (upgrading some components and switching from Media Portal) and I don't know if that makes everything work properly in Windows 7. So I wanted to ask.

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IMHO, Windows 8.1 is the best media OS atm. Windows 7 has a mediocre desktop composition implementation, and misses a couple important APIs (e.g. those for 3D Blu-Ray playback). Windows 8.1 is in every way better than Windows 7 - for media playback! For normal desktop use the situation may be different. Windows 10 is not really stable yet, especially the GPU drivers have all sorts of issues. It's possible that Windows 10 might be required for HDR passthrough, though, but that's not sure yet.
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For what it's worth, I haven't had a single issue with media playback in Windows 10 using MPC-HC/madVR/LAV Filters combo. Been using the OS since it came out (not the insider versions, though). I always use the latest Nvidia drivers with my GTX 960. My rig is super old, too. 1st gen Core I7 920 in an X58 mobo still going very strong
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Usually the majority doesn't have issues. But looking through the madVR thread, by far most of the people who *do* have issues, have GPU driver issues on Windows 10.
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select CUVID in lavfilter and nnedi3 in madVR and you will "see" an windows 10 exclusive bug!
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Well....in the end I decided to buy a GTX 1070 just to be safer and maybe have something "lasting longer" :-)
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I can now run NGU high across the board with my GTX 1070 no issue 720/1080p23 -> 2160p23. Really impressed with the new algo Madshi!
I almost bought a GTX 1080 today solely for MadVR, since 4K for new games still isn't quite up to 60fps even with that card. I'm glad I came and read this before I pulled the trigger! I'm going to grab a GTX 1070 for $230 cheaper and do 1080p ultra gaming for the time being.
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The latest "NGU-Low" algorithm I just released today should make it possible for relatively cheap GPUs to do high quality 4K upscaling. No need to spend anywhere near $500.
That's really great news. Could you list a few examples of some "relatively cheap GPUs"? So we know what ballpark you're playing in. Thanks.
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For many (perhaps even most) of us, we don't sit close enough to our TV's to discern any difference between 1080p and 4K in the first place.
That may be true, and is a point worth bringing up. Certainly those viewing "TVs" (even large ones) will be less likely to benefit, depending on how far away they sit. So both 4K content and 4K displays may be moot, for them (and perhaps yourself). For example VBB mentioned he sits 12' from a 70" diag TV, which is a 61" horizontal width. That puts him at a d/w = 2.4x, with a ~24-deg field-of-view span. While others may have TVs that are smaller, or sit farther away, or both.

OTOH, some of the folks in this Forum are using projection displays, and clean upscaled 4K can be very easily differentiated. As a counter-example to the above, I sit (well, will be when I get a room ready) 10' from an almost 9'-wide screen. So my d/w will = 1.1-1.2, or a 48-deg span. And while that may seem really close to some people, I'm actually at the low end. Some with 4K PJs (or 4K-eshift with JVCs) go for an immersion factor that puts them at d/w < 1.0! Or a FOV of 60+deg. I.e., they're closer to the screen than it is wide. At this end of the range, the extreme quality of scaling that MadVR provides can make a very large visible difference.

Hence some of us trying to determine how much horsepower we need in a GPU to access various levels of PQ that MadVR makes available. Because that will impact not only $$$, but also heat and noise. Not always an easy task to know, in advance. But MadVR gives you the flexibility to make numerous options available, at any price-point. We know what MadVR CAN do, and don't want to buy a card that's too wimpy to achieve the kind of results we've seen.

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Genuinely curious about this because I just got a 4K capable AVR and I'm weighing a switch to a 4K display (and a 4K HTPC).
Depending on how big the display, how close you sit, and how sharp an eye you have, all that extra $$$ spent for 4K could wind up being totally wasted. You need to figure out first what your specific situation is, by going somewhere to preview some clean true 4K, and seeing at what distance it stops making a meaingful difference. Each person must do that for themself (i.e., no blanket "rules", because no two situations are the same.
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well it should be able to that if 960 has 4Gb vram with 2Gb it should be impossible.
Thanks for pointing that out (several times here). I've been sifting through potential vidcards, and had a few on my list with just 2GB or 3GB of VRAM. Now I know to cross those off.
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IMO, even more important than your viewing distance and vision is the quality of the content you watch. Don't expect miracles watching SD or even lower on your shiny new 4K TV, no matter how good the scaler. MadVR helps tremendously, but the old adage "garbage in, garbage out" still applies. 1080p upscaled to 2160p doesn't require a $500+ video card, perhaps not even a $300 one. I use a GTX 960, which I paid roughly $250 for, and I am able to use madshi's new "NGU High" for chroma upscaling and luma doubling (with the rest on AUTO). It doesn't get much better than that. Now, if I were still a hardcore gamer and had extra money to spend, I would have popped a GTX 1080 in there already. But just for madVR, anything higher than a GTX 1060 (or AMD equivalent) is kind of a waste.
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Hence some of us trying to determine how much horsepower we need in a GPU to access various levels of PQ that MadVR makes available. Because that will impact not only $$$, but also heat and noise. Not always an easy task to know, in advance. But MadVR gives you the flexibility to make numerous options available, at any price-point. We know what MadVR CAN do, and don't want to buy a card that's too wimpy to achieve the kind of results we've seen.
I have a 60" Plasma and sit about 10' away from it. Even though I don't sit close enough to benefit from 4K, I do expect that there'd be a noticeable difference once I move to an OLED display (HDR, contract ratio, color space, etc). I agree with you that 4k scaling performance is certainly a concern for those sitting close to their 10ft+ wide screens.

There are still many issues with 4K content availability and distribution that need to be settled (and internet caps do not help), but the main thing holding me back is the lack of any good quiet and cool htpc options. My Mac Mini is great because the case is a giant slab of aluminum, so it acts as a big heat sink; it's basically silent. If my equipment were remotely located in a rack, then noise and heat make no difference.

Until then, I'm waiting for a GPU that is both powerful and has very low TDP (30-60W range, not 125w-250w). That may mean sticking with a mobile GPU and I may also need to wait for the next generation of hardware to come out. Liquid cooling and large radiators are a possible work around, but I have a strong preference for a simpler design. Integrated GPUs are an option, I suppose, but I doubt there is any flavor of Intel Iris that can even remotely keep up.
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Until then, I'm waiting for a GPU that is both powerful and has very low TDP (30-60W range, not 125w-250w). That may mean sticking with a mobile GPU and I may also need to wait for the next generation of hardware to come out.
I have similar desires to yours (currently wishful thinking?), but am willing to go a bit higher (and relocate the HTPC), if necessary. But I'm not interested in a fire-breathing dragon, in any event.

As you said, I think we'll need to wait to hit those lower TDP targets. From my reading so far, it seems that the best we can do is in the middle of your range, with 90-120W TDP, depending on GPU and madVR settings. And the higher settings may require the 'heavy iron' with 150-250W TDP. But I may not yet have a complete picture of the situation, and corrections are welcome.
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I have similar desires to yours (currently wishful thinking?), but am willing to go a bit higher (and relocate the HTPC), if necessary. But I'm not interested in a fire-breathing dragon, in any event.



As you said, I think we'll need to wait to hit those lower TDP targets. From my reading so far, it seems that the best we can do is in the middle of your range, with 90-120W TDP, depending on GPU and madVR settings. And the higher settings may require the 'heavy iron' with 150-250W TDP. But I may not yet have a complete picture of the situation, and corrections are welcome.

I think you're right. I've come to a similar conclusion. Even the GTX 1060 notebook GPU has a TDP of 85w. I certainly wouldn't want to run that hot in a laptop, never mind my htpc.

I can't find any concrete info on forthcoming GTX 10 GPUs with greatly enhanced power consumption. Guess I'll have to just wait and see. The new architecture is coming out next year, so it looks like they'll introduce a new batch of GTX 10 GPUs in June 2017.

Not to mention the fact that 4K support in Windows 10 is terrible right now.


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I wouldn't want anything less than a gtx 1060 for madvr 4k.
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