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Ok, lets start with some Eye (Media) Candy (DVD).

This is just part of the new skin design. I've also reskinned the Overlay Color Control and the Popup OSD. Looks much smoother now, don't you think?

As you may know from previous posts, I have decided to split Zoom Player into two versions. Zoom Player Standard which is a free for non commercial use Media Player, limited to File Playback and Zoom Player Professional, which is a commercial DVD Front-End (and of course, a media player).

Toward that end, you can now download two different builds. The Standard Build and the Professional Trial build. The Professional trial version is fully functioning and you can test all the features.

I've made a lot of changes since beta 6. You can see them listed below. There are still a few things I'd like to do before version 3 goes final (like find a way to deal with media durations on the play list without overloading the system checking each file).

Code:
 * New default skin.  The old "Brushed Silver" default skin has been
   replaced with a new Silver Chrome default skin.  This skin took
   about 50 hours to draw and looks very well when tinted.

 * Zoom Player now utilizes it's own Play List Format (yes, another
   one).  It's a very simple format which was designed for loading
   speed and extendibility.  The new format uses the ".ZPL" extension,
   which can be associated using the File Association Options Dialog.
   Large Play Lists should now load quite a bit faster.

 * The play list editor will now display the duration for some
   file formats and you can sort the list by it as well.

 * You can now have the remaining time show up within the Timeline.
   Middle click the to enable this feature.

 * You can now have the current time show up within the Timeline.
   Middle click the to enable this feature.

 * Support for DVD Parental Control Levels (Options / DVD).

 * New Functions "fnZoom50", "fnZoom400" and "fnZoom800".  These
   functions are mapped to the Alt+"1", Alt+"4" and Alt+"5" keys
   and allow you to set the Zoom Player window to 50%, 400% and
   800% of the source video size (100% and 200% already existed
   in previous versions if you were wondering).

 * New "TintSource" skinning function.  This function allows you
   to RGB tint the source image as the skin loads so that you can
   modify parts of the image to create diverse color schemes for
   your skin without actually modifying the source image yourself
   for each skin.

 * New "AniSpeed" parameter for creating buttons.  This parameter
   allows you to specify the animation speed of buttons when the
   "Animate Buttons" setting is enabled on the Skin Selector.

 * New "<Time>" Skinning Constant for displaying the Current Time.

 * New "<Date>" Skinning Constant for displaying the Current Date.

 * The Cycle Audio Track function (Ctrl+"A") will now cycle through
   MPEG2/VOB Audio tracks (as long as the MPEG2 Splitter filter is
   in use).

 * The Minimalist skins now have a skinned minimalistic play list.

 + The OSD Action Pop-Up window is now fully skinnable.

 + Play Next/Previous File in Directory is now loopable (after
   playing the last file in the directory, the first file is then
   played again).

 + Made some adjustment to DVD Seeking, it may be a bit faster now.

 + New Button Action command that indicates whether StayOnTop
   is enabled or disabled.

 + The File Navigator will always start with the currently
   playing file highlighted (if one is playing).

 + The Play List Display has been further expanded with options
   to use images for the scrollbar (Background & Thumb) and you
   can also define a border color for the selected item.

 + Better OGG support for disabling subtitles (Shift+"B").

 + OGG Filter now take precedance over VobSub when cycling
   subtitles.

 + The "Frame Advance if Pause is used while already Paused" setting
   has been removed and now is always ON (seemed logical).

 + From now on the Control Bar and Timeline Text are always outlined.
   The control over the outline color has been relegated to the skinner
   and can be set using the "TimeLineFontShade" and "TimeLineCBarFontShade"
   functions.  By default the Outline color is black.

 + The following settings have been removed from the options
   dialog and are now accessible by right clicking the Control Bar
   (non-timeline area), or middle clicking the Control Bar:
     Auto-Show Control Bar on Mouse Movement
     Auto-Show Control Bar when Mouse is moved to Bottom of Screen
     Detach Control Bar from User Interface
     Disable the Control Bar in Window Mode (Limit to Fullscreen)
     Position Control Bar relative to Video
     Prevent Control Bar from moving off-screen
     Center Control Bar Vertically within Video area
     Skip/Jump/Seek functions Pop Control Bar
     Play function Pops Control Bar in Fullscreen
     Pause function Pops Control Bar in Fullscreen
     Rewind function Pops Control Bar in Media Mode when in Fullscreen
     Show Play State within the Timeline area
     Show Time within the Timeline area
     Show Total Video Length within the Timeline area
     Show Media File Name / DVD Title & Chapter within the Timeline area
     Show Idle State within the Timeline area
     Control Bar Align (Toggle)

 + The BringToFront key mapping has changed from Alt+"1" to Alt+"0".

 - Fixed a crash when closing Zoom Player right after playing a DVD.

 - Fixed a bug which caused a CD-Insert request when mapping a
   removable drive (such as a CDRom) to the Media Navigator and
   then ejecting it.

 - Zoom Player should (hopefully) react better when exiting from
   Hibernate mode while playing.

 - Media files with Unicode file names can now be played.  However,
   their file name would appear in 8.3 compatible mode.

 - Control Bar buttons weren't being updated properly.

 - The "Animate Buttons" checkbox now scales along with the
   Skin Selector dialog.

 - Play List Button Hints now work.

 - The Play List skin wasn't being updated properly when
   switching skins when the dialog was open.

 - Using animated buttons with skins that didn't have play list
   data would cause error messages to pop-up.

 - Play List Editor wasn't being displayed properly in
   fullscreen mode (Transparency/Hidden Buttons).

 - The Play List Editor window wouldn't remember it's last position.

 - "Auto-Size User Interface to fit Source Video Size (on load)" and
   "Center User Interface when loading new Media" are now respected
   when opening a new DVD Disc.

 - Dragging the form by a label didn't always drag the right form.

 - Subtitle Navigator highlighting didn't work for the "RAR" extension.

 - The Slow Motion value wasn't being saved properly.

 - Play List item display is now tinted with the rest of the skin.
For the full change list since v2.90, see "whatsnew.txt" in the ZIP archive.

You can download both the standard and professional versions here

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Ok, a few quick fixes:

Code:
- The second <Time> skin constant has been renamed to <Clock>.
- Possible fix to that floating point thing Bartman reported.
- Under certain conditions, a CD-Insert prompt would pop in DVD Mode when opening a DVD drive that was ejected.
- The Registration dialig is now centered against the ZP window instead of the desktop center.
Download the same archives again for these small fixes.

The new archive sizes are:
zoomplayer300rc1pro.zip - 734971 bytes
zoomplayer300rc1.zip - 664788 bytes

Edit:
The file size on the pro was wrong... make sure it's the one listed now.

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+ The "Frame Advance if Pause is used while already Paused" setting has been removed and now is always ON (seemed logical).

Blight-

This should stay as an option, in my opinion. There are some devices (set-top players or whatever) that can 'exit' their pause mode by using some other function, but most devices and programs I know use Pause as a toggle-that is, to un-pause, you hit 'pause' again. I think I would go nuts not being able to use Zoom Player this way. Thanks (from a ZP paid user).

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I slightly modified the default skin and made a default gold/silver version. There is a slight problem that popped up where you can see purple for some reason, anyone know how to fix that as I like a gold skin?. Just download the .bmp and .skn files to your zoomplayer\\skin directory.

v3 looks nice anyway :)

I need someone to fix this weird purple problem before the silver/gold versions can be used. Hope Blight doesn't mind me modifiying his default chrome skin colour :confused:

:)

EDIT: ignore this as Blight pointed out the tint function :D
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ChrisW6ATV:
I'm not sure what you mean, The Play Button is a Play/Pause toggle. Then there's the pause which is Pause, frame advance.

uk.steve:
Did you notice those little tinting widgets on the skin selection dialog? you could have said something along the lines of "look guys, if you set red tint to (x) and green tint to (y) and blue tint to (z) you get this nice shade of Gold".

For example, a nice golden shade is:
RedTint +60
GreenTint +20
Blue Tint -40


As far as the purple thing. Everything purple in that skin is considered "transparent" If you tint it using photoshop or something, it goes out of range and isn't recognized as transparent anymore. So you need to make sure the purple pixels aren't tinted.

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Regarding ZP Professional:

Sorry, I missed the discussion regarding the split into regular/professional.

Do any commercial filters come with professional? If so, will there be an upgrade system put in place to the latest filters similar to Theatertek?

Thanks.
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No, sorry... the whole point of ZP is that it's flexible and can use whatever filters you already have. Hence $20 vs. $70?

I mean, I think you can buy the sonic filter pack for $15... (not sure if they are as good as the ones that come with TT).

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Does the new non-Filter edition have a simple and easy way to use say the video filter from Theatertek and WinDVD for Audio for MPEG-2 HD converts in place of the filters?
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Blight-

I forgot that 'play' also works as 'pause'-I always use the discrete keys (U for play and A for pause, without the 'frame advance' option enabled). I would just like to keep using it that way if possible. WinDVD or PowerDVD also requires you to use a different key to get out of Pause mode, and avoiding this is one reason I use Zoom Player.

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Quote:
Originally posted by Blight
uk.steve:
Did you notice those little tinting widgets on the skin selection dialog? you could have said something along the lines of "look guys, if you set red tint to (x) and green tint to (y) and blue tint to (z) you get this nice shade of Gold".

For example, a nice golden shade is:
RedTint +60
GreenTint +20
Blue Tint -40


As far as the purple thing. Everything purple in that skin is considered "transparent" If you tint it using photoshop or something, it goes out of range and isn't recognized as transparent anymore. So you need to make sure the purple pixels aren't tinted.
I just tried that and it makes the skin look very nice although I used

RedTint +60
GreenTint +47
Blue Tint -7

to make a very shiny gold skin.

thanks, Ill delete my previous post :)
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A feature to add :) (if its not already there?)

Could you have a function where we can save the tint settings for each skin, so we can choose from silver/gold schemes on top of the generic bmp skin?.
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Joseph S:
Point and click... give it a shot, the trial version gives you full access to all the features. Of course, if the filters themselves play nicely, that's a different question. But you won't have to touch graph files again.

ChrisW6ATV:
I guess I can restore the feature, I didn't really think anyone actually had it on disabled.

steve:
maybe a global tinting profile, a per-skin would be annoying to implement.

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No, sorry... the whole point of ZP is that it's flexible and can use whatever filters you already have. Hence $20 vs. $70?

I mean, I think you can buy the sonic filter pack for $15... (not sure if they are as good as the ones that come with TT).
TT uses the same Sonic Cinemaster 1.5 that is sold by Sonic.

There! I've run circles of logic around you!
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steve:
maybe a global tinting profile, a per-skin would be annoying to implement.
Yes that would be awesome :)
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WOW! AWSOME UPDATE! :eek:

and the new skin is great! yay! :)
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The new skin is very cool looking! Two questions:

1. Is there a way to make it bigger? The new buttons are too small for me to easily differentiate one from the others.

2. When I change the Aspect Ratio on anamorphic material, it appears to "squish" the image vertically rather than stretch it horizontally. Doesn't this lose some of the video info? For instance, I have a lot of TV recordings made at 480x480 that need to be expanded to 640x480 but end-up as a 480x360 window. I also have 2.35:1 movies that I archived as 720x356 that need to be expanded to 836x356 but end-up as 720x306 windows.
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I have tried to update the pro version but all three mirrors have a 717.7KB file not the 734.9k one you list in the second post...

Just a delay in propogating to the mirrors ??
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Is there any way to download and try the new one without it affecting my old one in ANY way ? I'm not a very literate computer user and I just got it all working as I wanted with Sonic Cinemaster 1.5 and SPDIF out sound and ffdshow, I REALLY don't want to screw with all that again and would love to have the new one to try out, is this possible ? If so, how ?
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I have tried to update the pro version but all three mirrors have a 717.7KB file not the 734.9k one you list in the second post...

Just a delay in propogating to the mirrors ??
I downloaded off one of the mirrors and it was the newer version, your ISP's webcache is probably not working properly or internet explorer is playing up. Try holding down the SHIFT key and pressing refresh in Internet Explorer while on the zoomplayer beta download page.
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1. As with all things, I had to make a compromise with the button sizes as lot of people prefer smaller sizes as not to clutter their display. There are other big-button skins around.
2. You mean in a window mode? In fullscreen it doesn't matter really... perhaps you should check the AR flag you've set on the MPEG2 encode. All the SVCDs I see here appear as 640x480 (windvd decoders, but also powerdvd...).

Phat Phreddy:
734971 bytes, 717kb (although you should check the byte size, not the kb). Seems fine here.

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Yes, you can. Here's how,
1. Extract the ZIP file into a completely new directory of your choice.
2. Using a text editor, create a file called "zplayer.regpath" in the same directory you extracted the ZIP file to.
3. Within this new file, paste this text (one line):
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\\Software\\VirtuaMedia\\ZoomPlayer2

This will make sure Zoom Player is now running in a different directory and saving/loading its settings from a different location in the registry.

As long as you don't set file association to this new version, everything will remain untouched.

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Just tried the Pro version last night. Using Sonic 1.5, powerdvd audio, default waveout and ffdshow. Four clicks and it worked the first time. Great work Blight. Looks as pretty as it's personality. Registration coming soon.....
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btw guys, I think I pretty much covered the filter selection on the DVD AutoGraph page, but if I'm missing a filter, let me know which and I'll try adding it.

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Thank you very much for your explanation of how to try out the new version without screwing up my working one. I'll have to do some research to figure out your instructions though. When I said I'm not computer literate, I meant it. I don't know what you mean when you say I have to "use a text editor", I don't know what that is, and I also don't know how to "create" a file . Does this "creation" involve me crossing my arms and twinkling my nose ? Sorry for my total ignorance and I'll understand if you ignore this request as I'm sure most users know how to do this stuff already.
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Hi, gn2,

sorry, but you got it completely wrong: you have to blink with the eyes, not wrinkle your nose!

I have attached a text file that contains the line Blight mentioned - I have not yet tested it myself.

Just click on the attachment below, select Save and navigate to the same directory where you have installed the new version of zoomplayer.

Important: The Save Dialog will suggest to save the file with the name zplayer.regpath.txt, but you have to change it to zplayer.regpath (without the txt extension)! If you end up saving it with a wrong name, it does not matter, just keep on trying.

It is not allowed to attach a file with that name directly so I had to add the txt extension.

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zplayer.regpath.txt 0.048828125k . file
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What tdsandme said...

Just for reference, you can create text files using notepad.

You do that by:
1. Pressing on the Start button.
2. Selecting Run.
3. Typing in "notepad" and pressing ok.
4. typing in the line:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\\Software\\VirtuaMedia\\ZoomPlayer2

5. File -> Save AS
6. Go to the new directory where you extracted zoom player.
7. type in the new filename as "zplayer.regpath" and you're done.

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THanks for the greater detail , I do appreciate it, I'll try it.
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7. type in the new filename as "zplayer.regpath" and you're done.
To do this part, you've got to make sure windows is not hiding file extensions. Go to Tools (in any My Computer window), View, and uncheck "hide file extensions for known file types". You'll now be able to change that .txt file into a .regpath file like you need to.

What was the general consensus of that giant thread a while back that was about WinDVD 4 filters... i.e., what's typically agreed as the best filter combination?
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I can't figure out how to change the skin (in Media mode). I've tried all the following:
- reviewed the right-click menu
- reviewed the categories (and sub-tabs) in Player Options
- I didn't see anything in the README.TXT (except assurance that it is skinnable)
- the online help mentions the PLASTICBLUE.SKN file
- the PLASTICBLUE.SKN file says it's an alternate skin but doesn't say how to load it
- the KEYS.TXT file mentions CTRL-N but it didn't do anything
- I found some ZP skins on skinbase.org but I still don't know how to load them

One thing I tried (which didn't work) was hiding the DEFAULT.SKN file and renaming PLASTICBLUE.SKN to DEFAULT.SKN; the change was ignored when I reloaded ZP.

Honestly, I'd love to buy ZP Pro but so far I'm still pretty baffled. I'm also confused about the DVD filter registration but let's not go there yet. Sorry to be so negative but I'm really frustrated by this -- I don't think anyone likes to feel stupid and I'm not accustomed to it!

So... How do I load a new skin? :)
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So... How do I load a new skin? :)
Right Click, Dialogs, Skin Selector ;)

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