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post #1 of 6 Old 05-07-2001, 05:46 PM - Thread Starter
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YxY is great for playing about with aspect ratios. I sometimes use it to zoom in on a really narrow picture like 2.33:1 and make it taller. Sure it cuts off a little of the left and right edges, but for some movies that's fine. You can also use it to compensate for overscan. But that's just like running in a window instead of full screen. It can be automated, so that's a plus. If the HTPC image is too high on the screen and not using all the available scan area then the best you can do is a smaller picture all round.

If you can, dump the VE for something with better control of custom T&Rs. Right now it sounds like almost anything would be better that missing some of the picture. If you can find one, the LE is the cheapest RADEON card and works quite well. Otherwise a cheap Geeforce 2 or Matrox G400/G450.

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I have a Radeon VE based PC, since VE currently does not support custom T&R, I have to live with standard 1080i, which suffers from some overscan on my RPTV. The overscan is tolerable except images are not horizontally centered, rather moved up somewhat. This is fine when viewing 2.35:1, but for 1.85:1, many times I only see peoples harlines. I tried Powerstrip but the window control could only adjust the screen by two clicks which did not help much at all. What can I do to further move down the screen? I went as far as changing other numbers such as front and back porches, managed to reduce horizontal overscan at times, but not able to keep the right screen ratio, other times managed to kill the RPTV.

Will YXY do better for this purpose? It seemed YXY is more for front projectors, and non-anamorphic movies.

Please offer some hints on using either tools, thanks in advance.
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I thought about LE after realizing VE does not do custom T&Rs. But decided to stay with VE for the dual VGA outputs. My second vga is hooked up to a 17" monitor for regular computing tasks.

So there is little I can do if I just want the 1080i picture moved down a little?
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Given the restrictions on Custom T&Rs with the VE, there is little you can do. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/frown.gif

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Hi Jacmyoung:

___There is another solution to your dual head dilemma … I saw a post about an individual using a PCI based Radeon he had purchased for something like $60.00 and an AGP based Radeon “LE†(we all know how cheap these cards are http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/wink.gif) on a PC tech site last night. I wish I could remember which of the individual pages I saw the post on but my history from yesterday has well over 300 pages in it. I would hit EnTech’s forum, Anandtech’s Windows 2000 forum, or Rage3D’s General or Tech support forum. Anyway, it sounded like the guy was having some trouble getting both cards to work but given Ashley’s experience with 5 cards at once, I do not think this is a bad idea. Do some searches before you try this is all. You have the same problems as most of the dual heads in regards to the primary display taking the overlay but at least you will have custom T&R’s and performance will not be lacking if Radeon type performance is all you need.

___On another note, someone (Bill Gaw maybe?) in the HT Computer forum posted that he had achieved a custom T&R (540p or 960i?) to work from his VE. You should be able to find that post easily since it had to be within the last two days.

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Thanks Simon and Wayne, I think I will try to live with such little annoyance till ATI fixes this VE T&R issue or until I get a front projector some day down the road. I finally got my PC-RPTV setup to stable, can't afford any more mess up before getting kicked out of the house http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif
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