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Help making a computer

I need a help, a LOT!

I have never put a computer together and want to make a rig that will be hooked up in my theater room. Here are my requirements, and I am trying to do this as absolutely cheap as possible and do not know where to start.

1- I need case/tower that can lay horizontal (width is about 20.5" and depth 22.5" for the area it will go) - it will sit inside recessed area in wall
2- really good video card (can these also support 1080 and standard?)
3- Blue ray internal drive (do they make 4K UHD internal drives?) - if not, then maybe just normal blue ray recorder so i can put blue rays on Hard Drive - i have a normal blue ray in my PS4
4- good sound card to hook to receiver for my 7.2 surround set up
5- Large internal HD (1 to 4TB I assume????)
6- processor with heatsink (no idea what is good value for $)
7- Motherboard (not sure where to start)
8- Memory (how much is enough/good to not give me lag issues

Again, I have never done this before so need help with good components to run a set up. I will be using the computer to run kodi, store blue-ray's to play, surf net, hold music.

Any help is appreciated. I don't want the cheapest components but would like to keep costs as low as possible.
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you can buy a custom computer from tigerdirect for way under 1k that meets/exceeds all your needs.

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you can buy a custom computer from tigerdirect for way under 1k that meets/exceeds all your needs.
Is it cheaper to make myself? Also any suggestions that will have good video card and sound card and enough memory etc? Also Is there a such thing as internal 4K UHD blue ray player? not sure it is a big deal to me or not, yet, but interested.

I will check them out to see if they have horizontal cases that fit my dimensions
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If you've never built out a PC and want to do it yourself, I'd start with a normal ATX form factor using a case with a removable motherboard tray. (Much easier to work on; but such cases are more expensive.) Might also consider a MicroATX form-factor system if size is a concern?

You can see lots of people's builds here; this link is for HTPC systems which cost between $500 - 1000:

https://pcpartpicker.com/builds/#X=50000,100000&E=11

You won't need a sound card if you use sound over HDMI from your video card; get something like a 4GB 960 or a 6GB 1050/1060 if you want to support 4k/HDR10 with your HTPC.
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I would buy an old Dell Optiplex with a SSF case like maybe a 790. I see these on EBay for $100 shipped, i5 cpu 8 gig mem, Win10 pro etc. Add a half height video card for between $25 to $75 like a Nividia GT 1030, 4TB hard drive $100 and something like a Flirk for a 10 foot interface using any old remote. If your receiver has HDMI you don't need a sound card as the video card carries the audio. Blu Ray burner $80. These are very quiet solid small compact cases and work great for HTPC. Forget about 4K for now and your all in for around $300.

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I would buy an old Dell Optiplex with a SSF case like maybe a 790. I see these on EBay for $100 shipped, i5 cpu 8 gig mem, Win10 pro etc. Add a half height video card for between $25 to $75 like a Nividia GT 1030, 4TB hard drive $100 and something like a Flirk for a 10 foot interface using any old remote. If your receiver has HDMI you don't need a sound card as the video card carries the audio. Blu Ray burner $80. These are very quiet solid small compact cases and work great for HTPC. Forget about 4K for now and your all in for around $300.
Great info!!! I prefer something new if not WAY more, over used on eBay, plus can't find the one you mentioned . Any other suggestion for case and cpu and windows? It must lay horizontal and within the detentions I seek. How many gigs is good for memory?
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You don't need a sound card. Just use the HDMI from your video card and plug it into your receiver directly.

You'd not need anything powerful since practically any modern PC can do what you want. If you want to do UHD Blu-Ray, then your options are more restricted, but honestly, the PC experience sucks for playback - it takes way more steps and isn't as convenient.
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Great info!!! I prefer something new if not WAY more, over used on eBay, plus can't find the one you mentioned . Any other suggestion for case and cpu and windows? It must lay horizontal and within the detentions I seek. How many gigs is good for memory?
New is always good but you will pay over that for a Win10 licence alone. These old dells are commercial grade and generally come out of offices and are built like tanks, electronics don't wear out from use just abuse. Search for Dell SSF in EBay and see what comes up.

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Great info!!! I prefer something new if not WAY more, over used on eBay, plus can't find the one you mentioned . Any other suggestion for case and cpu and windows? It must lay horizontal and within the detentions I seek. How many gigs is good for memory?
New is always good but you will pay over that for a Win10 licence alone. These old dells are commercial grade and generally come out of offices and are built like tanks, electronics don't wear out from use just abuse. Search for Dell SSF in EBay and see what comes up.
Will do. The towers looked a little large from what I saw but I will try to find exact detentions. It will have to be able to lay horizontal and meet my dementions.

Thanks for help, I'll take a look today. How do upgrades/updates go if I buy a used computer with Windows 10?
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Will do. The towers looked a little large from what I saw but I will try to find exact detentions. It will have to be able to lay horizontal and meet my dementions.
SFF cases can be both towers or "pizza-box" horizontal layout.

If you want it flat, get the right type so the CD/DVD player slot is parallel with the ground:

http://silverstonetek.com/product_ca...=c_sff&area=en

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Thanks for help, I'll take a look today. How do upgrades/updates go if I buy a used computer with Windows 10?
Retail copies of Win10 are fully transferrable; OEM copies are tied to a specific motherboard, at least in theory.

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Will do. The towers looked a little large from what I saw but I will try to find exact detentions. It will have to be able to lay horizontal and meet my dementions.
SFF cases can be both towers or "pizza-box" horizontal layout.

If you want it flat, get the right type so the CD/DVD player slot is parallel with the ground:

http://silverstonetek.com/product_ca...=c_sff&area=en

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Thanks for help, I'll take a look today. How do upgrades/updates go if I buy a used computer with Windows 10?
Retail copies of Win10 are fully transferrable; OEM copies are tied to a specific motherboard, at least in theory.
I think I will go rout you suggested, thanks!!!
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What is NAS and Plex and are they worth it? Someone mentioned having a NAS and I don't know what the heck that is
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i attached a usb hard drive / thump drive to my wireless router and share that hard drive to anyone that connects to router...my usb harddrive is just 1gb of music...anyone who connects to router can have at it.

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What is NAS and Plex and are they worth it? Someone mentioned having a NAS and I don't know what the heck that is
NAS is Network Attached Storage, Plex is a type of Video Server/Player that can compress/transcode video data on the fly to transmit using less bandwidth to less capable devices or over the internet.

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