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Just tried it. Your control set names are saved. But your audio level, distance and cross over settings are lost during the uninstall/reinstall process. Write down your settings and tweaks before you do the upgrade!
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anyone know if it supports asio via spdif yet? notes do not say anything more then being whql certified and what not.

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No. They just don't care.
M-Audio just went to a solid D- on the way to an F for customer support.

SPDIF ASIO support is in the VIA reference driver. Why is it so hard to implement?

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No. They just don't care.
M-Audio just went to a solid D- on the way to an F for customer support.

SPDIF ASIO support is in the VIA reference driver. Why is it so hard to implement?
LOL, Dave, I told one of the engineers at M Audio what you said about the grade of "D" and he said you're wrong, it should be a "F" for driver support.:D
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doh, that doesnt sound very promising.

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doh, that doesnt sound very promising.

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This release is apparently for XP only. Us M$ Winblows 2K Pro users are not included. Cliff, whats new in this release or is it an existing driver that M-Audio submitted to Microshaft for extortion, I mean certification?
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Who was joking? You or the engineers?

They deserve an F if they can't at least meet some of our needs. Come on, ASIO SPDIF support. I got an email back from a rep like 6mos ago telling me they're working on it. At this point I don't beleive much of what they say.

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"Cliff, whats new in this release or is it an existing driver that M-Audio submitted to Microshaft for extortion, I mean certification?"

LOL, actually the extortion money is not that much anymore.

There was a bunch of internal code fixed in order to pass the WHQL test suite. Things like S1/S3 hybernate/suspend bugs, audio loop on pause using S/PDIF, wrong sample rate displayed, switching between PCM/AC-3, BSOD fix, WHQL FullDuplex Test distorted signal (due to wrong sample rate) fixed, Multiple channel streaming under W2k and ME fixed, and much more.

Now that Firewire 410 has been released the Revo drivers are being worked on starting with getting a good base thru WHQL certification.
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heh, i was kinda hoping that it was.

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I took the chance and installed those new drivers under win2k. Nothing went bad so far....knocks on wood :)
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Cliff,

Wondering if you can offer any insight...

I purchased a Delta 410 card earlier this year (it works well), however when I upgraded to a HyperThreading P4 CPU under Windows XP I immediately had sound driver problems. These problems are solved by turning HyperThreading off.

With HyperThreading turned on all sound is crackly and broken (sometimes it sounds like an echo), but turn HypertThreading off and all works perfectly. I use WinDVD Platinum for software DTS decoding via the 410.

So it looks like the Delta 410 drivers are not HyperThreading (or ACPI multiprocessor?) friendly!

I have just upgraded to the most recent June 2003 drivers (29), but the problem still exists. I also sent a support email to M-Audio earlier this year when i discovered the problem, but no reply! :(

Two Questions...

1. Do you have any insight into this problem, or can get any acknowledgement from the engineers about this problem?

2. Do you know if this problem also affects the latest Revo 7.1 drivers discussed here?

I really like my M-Audio card, but would like the extra performance gain from HyperThreading. This puts me off buying any other M-Audio card, so should I consider changing to Creative Audigy2 to have a working HyperThreading WinXP multi-channel sound solution?

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Greg,

The WHQL certification requires that a soundcard play nice with HT motherboards, so I assume the Revo driver has passed that test or would not have been signed.

I believe M Audio intends to get all drivers, including the Deltas, signed and there should be a new Delta version released in a few weeks.

Have you tried the .31 beta Delta drivers? It uses a different driver model and may work properly with HT.
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Thanks Cliff,

Yes, I tried the 31 beta drivers some time ago and they didn't work either with HT switched on.
I'll wait another few weeks and see what happens (fingers crossed).

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Hey Cliff,

I am wondering how hard would it be to make a Revo hardware "point release" adding TOSLINK optical audio output by adding an optical center to one of the 1/8" mini jacks (the line in / mic one perhaps).

Many laptops and compact MD players have a regular 1/8" electrical mini jack, with a TOSLINK light in the middle of it, creating a universal connector. M-Audio are using the same one on their new compact Transit USB interface. Adapters are widely available to plug a regular TOSLINK cable into such a Mini optical jack.

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Alec,

Sounds good to me. You should send this request to Revolution@m-audio.com
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New driver fixed two problems I had:
- Pause problem when using SPDIF.
- When watching dvd-movies and using SPDIF I would get stutter in movie openings, menus and animations. Also on chapter changes. That happened if I was sending anything else than PCM. Now movies menus are fluid and usable.

Thanks M-Audio :)
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Another confirmed, pausing problem resolved. However, now I don't get audio when I play any non-dvd audio (avi's, mpegs, etc). Any suggestions? It was working with the previous drivers.

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Installed the new driver under W2KSP4. Am using WinDVD 4.0, SP/DIF out; fixed the problems i was having with audio & video stuttering at the start of the movie & when using DVD menus.
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Cliff, any word on them fixing the low-level sound issue on the 2 main front channels? (It's impossible to get a whisper quiet db level only with these channels). I had submitted this problem and they definately agreed that it was a problem to be fixed.

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(It's impossible to get a whisper quiet db level only with these channels).
Have you tried using the "Wave" volume control in addition to the Master volume ?. This should give you better and more refine control over attenuation. You won't be able to use Asio/KS though...
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Can everyone else here get audio when playing mpeg or avi's?

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