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Despite the name, conversion became the least thing this program was used for.

I understand this. Would I just be better off with HDTV2DVD then?

Ya know, since I started this "hobby" I can't believe the many different programs on Doom9, VideoHelp, etc. that will convert, extract, encode, capture, split, edit, play, backup, reauthor and on and on and on...... Hell, I quit watching Sportscenter months ago!

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Yes, because conversion to mpeg2 capabilities were broken ages ago.
If you need that find a very old version that supports it properly.

There is NO version of H2M that supports conversion properly. The success of any version of H2M to create a usable program stream has A LOT to do with the source transport stream. That's why it works for some people and not others.

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Would I just be better off with HDTV2DVD then?

If making DVDs is your goal, yes, absolutely! (Although you'll probably want to use H2M to chop out commercials before you feed the stream to HDTV2DVD)
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Also, Anyone know why the HDTV2DVD link would not be working? Gives me a 403 forbidden error.

http://software.badgerit.com/HDTV2DVD.html

The correct link is here...HDTV2DVD
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Oops! sorry I didn't mention my end result. Yes, saving to DVD is my end result. Problem with these DVR's is that they only give you so much storage space and I'd like to have the show to watch in the future. And mostly I'm capturing concerts and/or movies so there usually aren't any commercials. Thanks a lot for everyone's input.

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Thanks hjohns1. Yes, you go to that page and when you click on the download link (about half way down the page) it takes you to the link that I provided and gives me a forbidden error.

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Hi all! This is my first post to the HTPC forum so go easy.

I can't believe I have been working 3 days on getting my .ts files combined into one lage .ts file. I have hopes that I can then use the one .ts file and the disk2tape function on my modded r5000 receiver to send it to dvhs for archiving.

So I have 42 .ts files. Each one plays beautifully on the VLC player on my computer. Then I go to HDTVtoMPEG2 (v107) and try to combine the files into one large .ts. I add all 42 files to the queue and I rename the output file name to "movie".ts (from 00000000.mpg) and hit convert. This is a ~8GB movie and the resulting "movie".ts file is a puny 3KB file that is blank when I try to play it on the VLC player.

I have searched this thread and around the net and I can't seem to figure out what I am doing wrong. I just want to join all the .ts file into one.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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Thanks hjohns1. Yes, you go to that page and when you click on the download link (about half way down the page) it takes you to the link that I provided and gives me a forbidden error.

Seems to have been a transient problem. It works again now.
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Hi all! This is my first post to the HTPC forum so go easy.

I can't believe I have been working 3 days on getting my .ts files combined into one lage .ts file. I have hopes that I can then use the one .ts file and the disk2tape function on my modded r5000 receiver to send it to dvhs for archiving.

So I have 42 .ts files. Each one plays beautifully on the VLC player on my computer. Then I go to HDTVtoMPEG2 (v107) and try to combine the files into one large .ts. I add all 42 files to the queue and I rename the output file name to "movie".ts (from 00000000.mpg) and hit convert. This is a ~8GB movie and the resulting "movie".ts file is a puny 3KB file that is blank when I try to play it on the VLC player.

I have searched this thread and around the net and I can't seem to figure out what I am doing wrong. I just want to join all the .ts file into one.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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If H2M was showing "mpg" for its output file, it was in MPEG output mode. You need to change it to output Transport Stream.
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If H2M was showing "mpg" for its output file, it was in MPEG output mode. You need to change it to output Transport Stream.

Wow, I had that same exat problem. Thanks

Edit: how exactly do I do that
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Wow, I had that same exat problem. Thanks

Edit: how exactly do I do that

Look just above the output filename field for the dropdown menu named "type" and select Transport Stream.
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Seems to have been a transient problem. It works again now.

It worked when I got home. So it could have been a privacy issue with my work computer, also. Anyways, it's all good now.

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It worked when I got home. So it could have been a privacy issue with my work computer, also. Anyways, it's all good now.

No, the site was giving me a 403 error earlier on the same computer, so it wasn't your change of venue that solved it.
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Huh. Glad to know I'm not going totally insane.....Although some days I wonder.......

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I don't see that option, I just see this one
Edit, not enough posts, here-
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Your using a very old version. Get the latest version here.

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Any chance that this program could be updated to open up the *.dvr-ms files that MCE spits out? Apparently they are just transport streams in a wrapper.

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Hi all! This is my first post to the HTPC forum so go easy.

I can't believe I have been working 3 days on getting my .ts files combined into one lage .ts file. I have hopes that I can then use the one .ts file and the disk2tape function on my modded r5000 receiver to send it to dvhs for archiving.

So I have 42 .ts files. Each one plays beautifully on the VLC player on my computer. Then I go to HDTVtoMPEG2 (v107) and try to combine the files into one large .ts. I add all 42 files to the queue and I rename the output file name to "movie".ts (from 00000000.mpg) and hit convert. This is a ~8GB movie and the resulting "movie".ts file is a puny 3KB file that is blank when I try to play it on the VLC player.

I have searched this thread and around the net and I can't seem to figure out what I am doing wrong. I just want to join all the .ts file into one.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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You can try a software called TotalCommander to join your .TS files. Works for me flawlessly.

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Any chance that this program could be updated to open up the *.dvr-ms files that MCE spits out?

Probably not. Not that it couldn't be done. It's just that H2M was architected to handle native transport streams. It doesn't have the ability to walk around junk that may be in the file in order to find the transport stream. I think my time would be better spent fixing the current problems in H2M than in adding support for other file formats.

I would think that you should be able to find a tool to convert from dvr-ms -> TS format or purchase an app that can handle that format directly like VideoRedo.

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Ha, thanks, I had no idea that my version was old. I just did a google search and downloaded that one. Thanks for the link
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I've managed to extract an MPEG2 from a DVR-MS using graphedit, but it is a bit of a pain, and runs the film's speed. So a 2 hour video takes 2 hours to extract.

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To me it doesn't make any sense that Microsoft would have took a complete fully functional transport stream and just put a wrapper around it for no reason.

It makes more sense to me for them to have taken the program stream out of the transport stream and put that in the wrapper.

If there really was a full-blown transport stream in the dvr-ms file then you shouldn't have any problems with playback after extracting the transport stream.

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They put a wrapper around it in order to protect it with DRM. Though I am not sure that every DVR-MS file is protected.

You may be right that they strip the video out of the transport stream as the program is recorded to the drive.

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They put a wrapper around it in order to protect it with DRM.

Right. I forgot about the DRM stuff.

I took a quick look at VideoRedo's FAQ about DVR-MS. It can read the files in and edit them and write out a mpeg file but some players have audio sync problems so they are currently treating it as an "unsupported" feature.

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If H2M was showing "mpg" for its output file, it was in MPEG output mode. You need to change it to output Transport Stream.


Solved the problem. The newest version of H2M does not give you the option to output it as Transport Stream. I found an older version of H2M and it works like a charm. Thanks for your help.
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The newest version of H2M does not give you the option to output it as Transport Stream.

I will have to disagree with that statement.

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Solved the problem. The newest version of H2M does not give you the option to output it as Transport Stream. I found an older version of H2M and it works like a charm. Thanks for your help.

I don't know what "newest version" you're looking at, but all the ones linked from this thread offer that option. I expect that H2M author Cris Moore was very shocked to hear that he's removed its most used output mode (in a delirium?).
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If H2M was showing "mpg" for its output file, it was in MPEG output mode. You need to change it to output Transport Stream.

I never knew this was an option. I would simply change the filetype of the output file to .TS Playback still works ok. What differences are there between .TS and .MPEG output files?
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None...besides the fact that they're different protocols entirely.

Try Googling "MPEG" and "Transport Stream". (In the above context, "MPEG output" means "Program Stream", BTW)
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I googled, still dazed and confused. Maybe I'm too stupid to post here but I don't see any differences whether I playback a native .TS file or a H2M .MPEG file. I have also successfully archived both filetypes to my DVHS which led me to believe the only thing that was different was the filetype. I guess not but for the life of me I don't know why you would want one filetype or protocol over the other.
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