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Thanks, ebo. I'm still mystified as to how you found this though.
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Thanks, ebo. I'm still mystified as to how you found this though.


Thanks, ebo....

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Thanks, ebo. I'm still mystified as to how you found this though.
I noticed a long time ago that the files names were the same except for the release date and possibly beta version. Back then, there were always several earlier versions available but more recently that's dropped to 1 or 2. The dates can be found by looking at the latest software or firmware changelog.
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Ah. So you just edit the URL from that of the current version and jump blindly to see if the previous one(s) is(are) there?
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Ah. So you just edit the URL from that of the current version and jump blindly to see if the previous one(s) is(are) there?
Yup. Like the Leap of Faith in Last Crusade. Or Ike jumping from the saucer in South Park 101: "It's my turn!" (foop). Of course nothing really bad happens if you guess wrong.
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Please jog my 'bean'

I can't recall the name of the file that stores my 'Programs To Match'. I seem to have lost all the data there, but I can't seem to find it in my backups.


Can someone through me a hint?


Thanks Much,


OK....I keep forgetting about the C:/program data folder

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Chris, I take it that you found all the 'missing' data in the ProgramData CW_EPG subfolder...right?

EDIT: Oops, just noticed "found it" in the fine print....
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Search for "watchlist.csv" recommended.

If you are running Vista or above, UAC on does it's magic, ONE PER USER!

"C:\Users\Nani\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\ProgramD ata\CW_EPG\watchlist.csv"
"C:\Users\Nani-Trinity\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\ProgramData\CW_ EPG\watchlist.csv"

On your admin account select Windows Explorer to show hidden and system files.

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Windows XP

"C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\CW_EPG\watchlist.csv"

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Nani,


Running win7 with UAC at default; mine is found at C:\ProgramData\CW_EPG + several other places ....thanks to my original install eons ago, in a folder far, far, away.


I keep forgetting that at around version 2, the install ends up in a different spot. When something goes 'ca-thump', I'm looking in the wrong folder for a solution. I never deleted the old install folder as I didn't know that I should; also, it never seemed to affect the operation.
Perhaps these odd things, I'm infrequently experiencing, are the result of that orphan folder.

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Running win7 with UAC at default; mine is found at C:\ProgramData\CW_EPG + several other places ....thanks to my original install eons ago, in a folder far, far, away.


I keep forgetting that at around version 2, the install ends up in a different spot. When something goes 'ca-thump', I'm looking in the wrong folder for a solution. I never deleted the old install folder as I didn't know that I should; also, it never seemed to affect the operation.
Perhaps these odd things, I'm infrequently experiencing, are the result of that orphan folder.
Note: This is on my W7 64 Bit Laptop, not on my XP HTPC.

I was bothered that there was not a copy in "C:\ProgramData\CW_EPG" but finding "watchlist.csv" in the VirtualStore for each user made me happy.

It may have happened that I just copied the "watchlist.csv" file from a copy of what is on my HTPC to "C:\ProgramData\CW_EPG" as a normal user and as that is illegal it went to the Virtual Store. I remember just checking CW_EPG and if the watchlist is there job done.

The files are different sizes and the last modified dates are different. So I did it twice, once for each user.

I tried starting CW_EPG on a user account that had never used CW_EPG before. I started it first and there was no watchlist entries or file. Then again this time adding TEST to the watchlist.

Boy was I surprised when it went to "C:\ProgramData\CW_EPG" and not to the VirtualStore.

Just when you think you understand "Developer Best Practices and Guidelines for Applications in a Least Privileged Environment" something new happens.

But wait, copying "Watchlist.csv" may be different for Windows Explorer and CW_EPG program.

More testing to be done.

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Strange, I cannot get "watchlist.csv" into the VirtualStore for a new user that never ran CW_EPG before.

I must have done something strange when I was trying to get CW_EPG working before.

Once a file in "ProgramData" is forced into the VirtualStore it stays there for that user.

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Strange, I cannot get "watchlist.csv" into the VirtualStore for a new user that never ran CW_EPG before.

I must have done something strange when I was trying to get CW_EPG working before.

Once a file in "ProgramData" is forced into the VirtualStore it stays there for that user.

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Until you mentioned VirtualStore, I had no idea it existed. I've never put anything in there, that I recall; although there's bits and pieces of 6 different apps there.
Everyday day I become more convinced I know nothing, (Sgt. Schulz Syndrome) and have become accustomed to accepting that.

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Until you mentioned VirtualStore, I had no idea it existed. I've never put anything in there, that I recall; although there's bits and pieces of 6 different apps there.
Everyday day I become more convinced I know nothing, (Sgt. Schulz Syndrome) and have become accustomed to accepting that.

The Virtual Store (and Virtual Registry) were created to allow old (read BAD) programs to continue to work while protecting the system / users.


I first learned about it before ~ 01-30-2007 with a Vista prerelease.


The "Developer Best Practices and Guidelines for Applications in a Least Privileged Environment" document is now at: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa905330.aspx The Virtual Store description appears to now be in a downloadable help file. Link on that page.


At some point Microsoft will shut down these old (read BAD) programs for good. Just like it did for 16 bit programs. W8 I believe, W10 for sure. I am running XPMODE on W7 which is almost built in.


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The number of people I run into that insist that UAC MUST BE TURNED OFF is astounding. W10 may be the last OS that allows it to be turned off and many programs will simply not be allowed to run. Yes, not be allowed to run.


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