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post #15601 of 19514 Old 11-17-2010, 07:53 AM
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Can you still buy TMT3? Arcsoft web site only lists TMT5 and they want $100 for it.

YOu can get TMT3 still at Newegg for $59. I am sure they will offer TMT5 in the near future

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YOu can get TMT3 still at Newegg for $59. I am sure they will offer TMT5 in the near future

Keep in mind that ongoing support for TMT3 probably won't be at the same level as the support for TMT5. Especially for Bluray playback, I'd be hesitant to buy anything other than the current version of a software player just to save a few bucks. It's just not worth the potential future hassle.
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Hi all,

I have a Logitech Wii KB (works fine on Win7) I'm using on my media center, but have a wired mouse. I'm got an extender running from my TV under my love seat, but I need a wireless solution. I've looked at the Adesso combo, but I'm happy with the KB I have now. Does anyone know a decent wireless mouse (RF or Bluetooth) with at least a 10-15' range? I'm partial to logitech, but I'm willing to try others. Price would need to be ~20 or so. If I get close to 30 or more, I might as well get the Adesso combo (~55 on google).

Also, I have a harmony MCE remote, so 9 times out of 10 I'm usually using just the mouse for precision pointing. I don't really use the KB a lot.
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Just seems like Arcsoft never got TMT3 to work correctly with the HD5000 series and wants another 100 bucks for their programming efforts.
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I created a site about home theater PC with the goal of playing all types of video with maximum quality by using mpchc, ffdshow, reclock, ac3filter... This tutorial is accessible to everyone and I give the configuration files ready as packs.

The site is available at this address http://www.homecinema-hd.com

A small example of what you get: Quality Comparison

I'm french so the original version of the site was in french. I started to translate it in english but my english is not very good so there must be some translation errors.

I see you soon on http://www.homecinema-hd.com
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FYI @ Microcenter (In Store Only) for $40 with no rebate

4GB DDR3-1333 Dual Channel Memory Kit (2 x 2GB Memory Modules)

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Hey guys, are there any MB's or chipsets on the way that will work with HD Audio, or will a videocard be a necessity for the near future?
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Hey guys, are there any MB's or chipsets on the way that will work with HD Audio, or will a videocard be a necessity for the near future?

What do you mean, bitstreaming HD Audio? If so the core i3/i5 supports HD audio without the need for a separate GPU

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Hello all, I'm just looking for the best video card for watching movies only no gaming. Video is going to a 63 plasma and processing will be through a Anthem Pre-Amp. HDMI output is a definite must. Budget is not really an issue as I am more concerned on Video quality and passing audio through i.e. Blue Ray and DVD rips. The card can be current or coming out within the next month or two.

System is Windows Home server and hoping to upgrade once the new system is released.

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I'm playing directly from the Server. My motherboard is a ASUS P5Q-E LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard. Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor.
Currently 16TB of storage.
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I'm playing directly from the Server. My motherboard is a ASUS P5Q-E LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard. Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor.
Currently 16TB of storage.

I am happy with the Sapphire 5670 GPU that I have. Are you looking to bitstream HD Audio (which I am not sure would be supported over WHS)?

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I want to be able to play 5.1 or 7.1 for my movies and let my Anthem preamp do the processing.

Are you saying this is not possible? Have you by chance tested the Beta 7 WHS ?

So what would my limitations be ? I really do not want to setup another dedicated computer just to be able to stream off my server.
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I want to be able to play 5.1 or 7.1 for my movies and let my Anthem preamp do the processing.

Are you saying this is not possible? Have you by chance tested the Beta 7 WHS ?

So what would my limitations be ? I really do not want to setup another dedicated computer just to be able to stream off my server.

I am pretty sure WHS doesn't support bitstreaming HD Audio ( recall seeing on the FFDShow thread on Doom9 that it did not work with XP which would be along the same lines as WHS).

If by Beta 7 WHS you are talking about Vail, I would avoid going near right now unless you are purely testing.

The best solution would be to get a small media extender to play back content from your WHS. Options would include the SageTV HD300 (which integrates nicely with WHS), the PCH C200, or the Dunes.

Right now my WHS is around 24 TB, and streams to various media players in my house (2 HTPCs, HD300, Dune Prime, PCH C200, etc...)

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I want to be able to play 5.1 or 7.1 for my movies and let my Anthem preamp do the processing.

Are you saying this is not possible? Have you by chance tested the Beta 7 WHS ?

So what would my limitations be ? I really do not want to setup another dedicated computer just to be able to stream off my server.

Limitations!
WHS is NOT supported by nearly every component you will need for movie playback, TMT or PowerDVD playback software, video and sound drivers and hardware.

WHS is a Server not a Client, move playback is not within its design goals.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...r/default.mspx

Its primary focus is to automate PC backup and sharing of files to be used by others PCs or client devices.

Use a media extender or Media Center PC for playback.
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I am pretty sure WHS doesn't support bitstreaming HD Audio ( recall seeing on the FFDShow thread on Doom9 that it did not work with XP which would be along the same lines as WHS).

If by Beta 7 WHS you are talking about Vail, I would avoid going near right now unless you are purely testing.

The best solution would be to get a small media extender to play back content from your WHS. Options would include the SageTV HD300 (which integrates nicely with WHS), the PCH C200, or the Dunes.

Right now my WHS is around 24 TB, and streams to various media players in my house (2 HTPCs, HD300, Dune Prime, PCH C200, etc...)

What I ultimately want to run is CQC (Charmed Quark) to drive my entire configuration.

Can you pm your htpc configuration please? I've tried some extenders and I'm not found if the interface abilities.

Thank you.
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Limitations!
WHS is NOT supported by nearly every component you will need for movie playback, TMT or PowerDVD playback software, video and sound drivers and hardware.

WHS is a Server not a Client, move playback is not within its design goals.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...r/default.mspx

Its primary focus is to automate PC backup and sharing of files to be used by others PCs or client devices.

Use a media extender or Media Center PC for playback.

What about running VMware and running windows 7 on the same box?

Feasible?
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Yes, HD audio bitstreaming is supported. Look at the Nvidia GTX460 and AMD 5xxx or 6xxx.
Read these threads:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/searc...rchid=16212020


It's also integrated with Intel graphics integrated solutions now right?
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It's also integrated with Intel graphics integrated solutions now right?

Correct

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Hi all

I just built a htpc using the

gigabyte ep43-ud3l ( rev 1,1) motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&Tpk=ep43-ud3l

which has Onboard Audio Realtek ALC888 8 Channels

now when I run the sound check I get 5.1 audio from all speakers so I know it works BUT when I watch anything on the web I only get stereo. I don't know anything about this area so any help would be great.

Secondly I am planning on retiring my Denon 2500 after 13 years of service and want to keep my trusty NHT superzero speakers, is there a Pc AVR card I can just hook up to the speakers.

thanks in advance for any help or guidance.

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What about running VMware and running windows 7 on the same box?

Feasible?

We Got Served ran an extensive article this summer, here, about trying to configure a Vail/Windows 7/VMWare setup to run as a server and front end all in one. IMHO, it looks pretty complicated. Definitely not designed to do both.
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Don't want to get OT here, but if anyone is using WHS MS has just announced that with the release of version 2 (Vail) they will be removing Drive Extender (responsible for JBOD and duplication). Not a good thing, I started a topic here to discuss further:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1292340

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Hi all

I just built a htpc using the

gigabyte ep43-ud3l ( rev 1,1) motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&Tpk=ep43-ud3l

which has Onboard Audio Realtek ALC888 8 Channels

now when I run the sound check I get 5.1 audio from all speakers so I know it works BUT when I watch anything on the web I only get stereo. I don't know anything about this area so any help would be great.

Secondly I am planning on retiring my Denon 2500 after 13 years of service and want to keep my trusty NHT superzero speakers, is there a Pc AVR card I can just hook up to the speakers.

thanks in advance for any help or guidance.

dave

Dollars to donuts your source is only providing 2 channel audio. What are you viewing/listening to from the web? Hulu *may* offer some surround video but I would guess only with the pay service. Most YouTube and other videos are probably just stereo.
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Don't want to get OT here, but if anyone is using WHS MS has just announced that with the release of version 2 (Vail) they will be removing Drive Extender (responsible for JBOD and duplication). Not a good thing, I started a topic here to discuss further:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post19534283
This link is not working .

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This link is not working .
Argh...AVS copied over the abbreviated link:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1292340

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We Got Served ran an extensive article this summer, here, about trying to configure a Vail/Windows 7/VMWare setup to run as a server and front end all in one. IMHO, it looks pretty complicated. Definitely not designed to do both.

It appeared so complicated because the poster was trying to do it backwards - running Windows 7 inside the VM is a none-starter when you need access directly to the hardware for hardware-accelerated HD video playback, TV Tuner support etc. etc.

As I and many other posters pointed out in the comments, the correct way to go about this is to run Windows 7 as the host OS, and the WHS inside the VM. This method is known to work just fine - and the beauty of WHS inside a VM means than whenever you outgrow the hardware (ie, run out of storage !) it's trivial just to migrate the whole installation onto a different machine.

Be sure to reserve seperate physical disks for the Host Windows 7 and the VM WHS - don't use hard disk files.
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$99.99 - Intel Core i3-530 Clarkdale 2.93GHz 4MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80616I3530
$89.99 - ASRock H55M Pro LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
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$85.00 - Plextor PX-64M1S 2.5" 64GB SATA II Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - OS Drive
$139.98 (69.99 a piece) - Seagate Barracuda LP ST32000542AS 2TB 5900 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard - Drive -Bare Drive x2 for DATA
$79.99 - OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7
$79.99 - LG WH10LS30K 10X Blu-ray Burner - LightScribe Support - Bulk - OEM
Total $639.93

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$107.21 - Gyration GYR4101US Black 88-key Normal Keys 15 hot keys Function Keys 2.4GHz RF Wireless Mini Air Music Remote w/ MotionSense & Compact Keyboard
$185.00 - Hauppauge 1212 HD-PVR High Definition Personal Video Recorder
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I'm seriously considering replacing my Tivo for an HTPC. Ideally I would like something around the same size and as quiet at the Tivo. I would be running Window Media Center as my front end. I currently have Comcast as a cable TV provider but I'm seriously considering switching over to an OTA solution. What do you guys recommend hardware wise to get this accomplished. Considering that this would be replacing my Tivo, recording TV is a top priority.
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I'm fixing to build a the 20hd version from the June edition and the processor in it is currently unavailable from newegg, does anyone have a suggestion for another?

I was currently looking at the Athlon 2 x4 but thought it might be overkill.
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    - Sandy Bridge-E LGA 2011 systems took the place of 3-year-old Bloomfield LGA 1366 systems.
    - All systems were reexamined and nearly half of the systems were updated or completely changed because of new hardware components and price change of many components.

    Sample (21 pages):
  • August/September 2011 Issue: Released on October 1, 2011.

    - The low-end and mid-range systems are restructured.
    - Nearly half of the systems were updated or completely changed because of new hardware components and price change of many components.

  • June/July 2011 Issue: Released on July 14, 2011. The June issue has been delayed because of the delay of the May issue. So I decided to combine the June and July issues.

    - AMD A-Series APU (Llano) systems took place of all the Socket AM3 systems in the low-end and mid-range AMD systems.
    - Nearly half of the systems were updated because of new hardware components (new AMD 990FX/990X/SB950 chipset motherboards, new X58/ICH10R chipset motherboards etc.) and price change of many components.

  • May 2011 Issue: Released on June 3, 2011.

    - All LGA 775 systems were replaced by LGA 1155 systems finally.
    - Intel Z68 chipset motherboards are used in place of P67 in many systems.
    - Standard Mini-ITX and Budget/Low-End microATX/ATX systems were completely re-organized reflecting the recent release of Pentium Sandy Bridge processor.
    - 15-bay server systems are now using an Intel processor and Intel-brand motherboard (one reason for that is Intel Gb LAN).
    - 20-24 bay server systems have more processor/motherboard options.

  • April 2011 Issue (free download): Released on April 23, 2011.

    - All Radeon HD 5xxx cards were replaced by the latest Radeon HD 6xxx.
    - Several older motherboards and SSDs were replaced by new ones.
    - A Xeon LGA 1155 workstation was added.
    - Server systems were streamlined and divided into two categories: Server I (12 and 15-drive systems) and Server II (20 and 24-drive systems).

  • March 2011 Issue (free download): Released on March 21, 2011.

    - Every Intel LGA 1156 (Clarkdale and Lynnfield) system was replaced by a LGA 1155 (Sandy Bridge) system.
    - "Intel for 3D" (Clarkdale + a discrete graphics) systems were removed because Sandy Bridge supports 3D.
    - A LGA 1366 workstation was added.
    - Rocket 620 SATA controller card in a couple of server systems was replaced by Rosewill RC-211 because Rocket 620 BIOS disables other controller's BIOS.

  • February 2011 Issue (free download): The initial version released on February 23, 2011, the final version released on March 4, 2011.

    - An AMD E-350 APU system was added in the mini-ITX system ("Budge Mini-ITX System").
    - Intel High-End/Premium/Ultimate Systems and Workstation were all updated (i.e. Lynnfield systems were revived) because Intel recalled Intel 6 Series chipsets.
    - Minor changes in the server systems (new motherboards, a new SATA 6.0Gbps controller card) for better cost/performance.
    - Every single system was reviewed and components were replaced if necessary.

  • January 2011 Issue (free download): Issued on January 20, 2011. As Intel Sandy Bridge quad-core processors were released on January 9, mainly Intel High-End/Premium/Ultimate Systems were updated.

  • December 2010 Issue (free download): Issued on January 5, 2011. This is the first PDF version of the Buyer's Guide. 80 pages in US letter. Almost every section of the June 2010 issue was updated. This issue is also posted here.

Buyer's Guide to Building a Home Theater PC - December 2010

A PDF version is also available for free download.

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