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Renethx: I really only play HD content. I have several hundred DVD's ripped to my Flexraid server but to be honest, if it's not in HD, then i won't watch it. The rest of the family watches some on occasion but they don't care about the quality anywhere near the way I do (:
I don't really need to follow a budget but I figure I already have good quality case, PS, SSD & Blu-Ray drive. All I need is MB, CPU and RAM.

Thanks for your help!
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Renethx: I really only play HD content. I have several hundred DVD's ripped to my Flexraid server but to be honest, if it's not in HD, then i won't watch it. The rest of the family watches some on occasion but they don't care about the quality anywhere near the way I do (:
I don't really need to follow a budget but I figure I already have good quality case, PS, SSD & Blu-Ray drive. All I need is MB, CPU and RAM.

Thanks for your help!
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Server HW Upgrade

Hello All,

I'm also looking to update the hardware on my WHS2011 machine and am looking for some feedback on what I've selected. It's a bundle available locally.

Items I'll be replacing:
CPU: E4500 2.2G Dual Core
MB: Gigabyte 945GCM-S2C
RAM: 4GB (Corsair I think)

Keeping
OS HD: Samsung 840 EVO 256GB
PSU: CM RS-600-AMBA-D3 (not gonna replace)
Controller: Supermicro SASLP-MV8
NIC: Intel GB CT
All other hardware (case, drives, etc)

Usage:
Primarily media storage and streaming.
FlexRAID Snapshot
JRiver, Subsonic, SAMBA shares.

The bundle I'm looking at (~$350 w/T)
ASUS Z97-AR LGA 1150 Intel ATX Motherboard
Intel Core i3-4150 3.4GHz LGA 1150 Boxed
Crucial Ballistix Sport VLP 16GB DDR3-1600

I realize the memory may be overkill, but somehow I just feel better with 16GB. Going w/ 8GB the cost would be roughly $275 w/T. I was also looking into the i5 4690 which is an additional $100 but again, this would probably be overkill.

Any thoughts? Is the 16GB really overkill which wouldn't warrant the extra $75? My main motivation here is 1.) Low power usage & 2.) Future proof in that order. While I use my desktop for all other PC duties, I want to make sure if needed I can load up the server for additional duties (rips, transcoding, etc). I also intend to eventually upgrade the WHS to either W8(9) or maybe even learn how to manage a Server2012 machine. But right now the WHS setup is worry-free.

Thanks in advance.
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Renethx: I really only play HD content. I have several hundred DVD's ripped to my Flexraid server but to be honest, if it's not in HD, then i won't watch it. The rest of the family watches some on occasion but they don't care about the quality anywhere near the way I do (:
I don't really need to follow a budget but I figure I already have good quality case, PS, SSD & Blu-Ray drive. All I need is MB, CPU and RAM.

Thanks for your help!
For example,

CPU: Celeron G1840, $45, if you don't need 3D, Core i3-4130, $115, otherwise.
CPU cooler: Stock cooler is usually enough. You can replace it with a third-party cooler, but the choice depends on your case.
MB: MSI H97M-G43, $90. If you want to spend more, GIGABYTE GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5, $135, or ASUS GRYPHON Z97, $165. But these mb add nothing to PQ in video playback.
Memory: G.SKILL F3-1600C9D-8GAB Ares DDR3-1600 CL9 2 x 4GB Kit, $76.
GPU: Integrated in CPU is enough for 1080i/p contents playback.

This is basically a 'standard' system, that's good enough for 1080i/p playback. You can add a discrete graphics card for better upscaling DVD/720p (that's not your current object) or for OpenCL applications such as SVP (Smooth Video Project) or 4K HEVC decoding. These belong to 'performance' / 'high performance' / 'ultra high peformance' systems in my upcoming guide. I will send it to you asap once I finish it.

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Hello All,

I'm also looking to update the hardware on my WHS2011 machine and am looking for some feedback on what I've selected. It's a bundle available locally.

Items I'll be replacing:
CPU: E4500 2.2G Dual Core
MB: Gigabyte 945GCM-S2C
RAM: 4GB (Corsair I think)

Keeping
OS HD: Samsung 840 EVO 256GB
PSU: CM RS-600-AMBA-D3 (not gonna replace)
Controller: Supermicro SASLP-MV8
NIC: Intel GB CT
All other hardware (case, drives, etc)

Usage:
Primarily media storage and streaming.
FlexRAID Snapshot
JRiver, Subsonic, SAMBA shares.

The bundle I'm looking at (~$350 w/T)
ASUS Z97-AR LGA 1150 Intel ATX Motherboard
Intel Core i3-4150 3.4GHz LGA 1150 Boxed
Crucial Ballistix Sport VLP 16GB DDR3-1600

I realize the memory may be overkill, but somehow I just feel better with 16GB. Going w/ 8GB the cost would be roughly $275 w/T. I was also looking into the i5 4690 which is an additional $100 but again, this would probably be overkill.

Any thoughts? Is the 16GB really overkill which wouldn't warrant the extra $75? My main motivation here is 1.) Low power usage & 2.) Future proof in that order. While I use my desktop for all other PC duties, I want to make sure if needed I can load up the server for additional duties (rips, transcoding, etc). I also intend to eventually upgrade the WHS to either W8(9) or maybe even learn how to manage a Server2012 machine. But right now the WHS setup is worry-free.

Thanks in advance.
My suggestions:

Core i3 is not a good choice. It's just a dual-core processor with HyperThreading (additional fake two cores). You'd better get a real quad-core processor (Core i5-4590, 4690K etc.), in particular if you are considering transcoding (Core i5 supports multiple instances of transcoding, while Core i3 often struggle).

2 x 4GB memory is enough, e.g. G.SKILL F3-1600C9D-8GAB. Larger memory is good for graphics/video editing applications such as Photoshop, but this is not your purpose, I guess. You'd better spend money on the processor instead. As for low-voltage memory, it lowers power consumption by only a few watts. The server itself consumes 30-40W at idle. So this is not particularly a good idea.

Motherboard: There are plenty of choices. ASUS is one choice. Check also ASRock Z97 Extreme6, that has ten SATA ports, good for a larger case.

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Hi guys, I'm moving to small condo and looking to build a simple HTPC+storage SFF PC to output XBMC to my TV via HDMI. What do you think of this build:


  • GIGABYTE GA-H97N-WIFI (link)
  • Intel Pentium G3240 (link)
  • ADATA XPG (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 RAM (link)
  • Fractal Design Node 304 (link)
  • SeaSonic S12II 430B 430W PSU (link)
My plan is to take the storage drives I have currently in my desktop (2TB+1.5TB+1TB+2x500GB) and put them into that. I have considered NAS and the need for new drives for RAID, etc. all of that and due to budget moving into a new place and all, I really want to keep it cheap and this is temporary, I would be able to afford a separate NAS if I need and new drives by around Xmas time. I calculate the above build at roughly $450 vs. something like a Synology+drives at ~$670. Thanks for any help.
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Hi guys, I'm moving to small condo and looking to build a simple HTPC+storage SFF PC to output XBMC to my TV via HDMI. What do you think of this build:


  • GIGABYTE GA-H97N-WIFI (link)
  • Intel Pentium G3240 (link)
  • ADATA XPG (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 RAM (link)
  • Fractal Design Node 304 (link)
  • SeaSonic S12II 430B 430W PSU (link)
My plan is to take the storage drives I have currently in my desktop (2TB+1.5TB+1TB+2x500GB) and put them into that. I have considered NAS and the need for new drives for RAID, etc. all of that and due to budget moving into a new place and all, I really want to keep it cheap and this is temporary, I would be able to afford a separate NAS if I need and new drives by around Xmas time. I calculate the above build at roughly $450 vs. something like a Synology+drives at ~$670. Thanks for any help.
Just good. You can go with a cheaper Celeron G1840, ~$47. There is no big difference, just 3.1GHz vs. 2.8GHz.
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I'm building a similar system to Bold's for a friend.

They'll use it more for web browsing, some video/music playback, and if gaming is required in the future I could just drop in a GPU.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CPCYRB

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I'm building a similar system to Bold's for a friend.

They'll use it more for web browsing, some video/music playback, and if gaming is required in the future I could just drop in a GPU.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CPCYRB
A couple of notes:

- As you selected a non-K Core i5, GA-H97N-WIFI is enough (-$20). The features found only in Z97 are

-- Dynamic Storage Accelerator (maybe faster sequential/random read, slower 4K QD32)
-- Overclocking Core i5/i7 K (irrelevant to a non-K processor)
-- PCIe x16 3.0 split to x8+x8/x8+x4+x4 (irrelevant to mini-ITX form factor)

- Generally a single stick of memory is not a good idea (single channel mode). You'd better buy 2 x 4GB.
- Crucial MX100 128GB SSD is a lot cheaper with a lot better longevity (MLC vs. TLC) and more or less the same performance.
- Avoid a 160mm deep PSU with modular cables if you are thinking of a gaming graphics card, stick to a standard 140mm deep PSU. Or a SFX PSU is even a better choice in Node 304.

So:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($73.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Gold 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($89.88 @ NCIX US)
Total: $636.81

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-27 11:59 EDT-0400

The total cost is a little bit lower and overall performance is better.

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Just good. You can go with a cheaper Celeron G1840, ~$47. There is no big difference, just 3.1GHz vs. 2.8GHz.
Thanks! When you say "Just good" that doesn't seem like a ringing endorsement

What about an Intel NUC like this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7I8HZ4 I read this review and so it can perform exactly what I need. What I am wondering is if I get the NUC @ ~$150, then grab a Synology for ~$370 and put my current drives in it so I have my HTPC and NAS at just a little over the price of the SFF PC build I posted above. What do you think?
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Thanks! When you say "Just good" that doesn't seem like a ringing endorsement

What about an Intel NUC like this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7I8HZ4 I read this review and so it can perform exactly what I need. What I am wondering is if I get the NUC @ ~$150, then grab a Synology for ~$370 and put my current drives in it so I have my HTPC and NAS at just a little over the price of the SFF PC build I posted above. What do you think?
If you are thinking of OpenELEC, then a cheap Intel NUC is a good choice. But instead of Celeron 840 (mobile Sandy Bridge), Intel NUC DN2820FYKH (Celeron N2820/N2830, Bay Trail-M). ASUS Chromebox is another choice (Celeron 2955U mobile Haswell, better than Bay Trail-M). Check XBMC Forum to see how to install OpenELEC in Chromebox. Should you use Widnows, DN2820FYKH / Chromebox has an audio issue, however (no HD audio bitstreaming [only matters when you use an AVR] / no HDMI audio at all). For videophiles, a Windows system ~$400 or more is the way to go, of course.
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If you are thinking of OpenELEC, then a cheap Intel NUC is a good choice. But instead of Celeron 840 (mobile Sandy Bridge), Intel NUC DN2820FYKH (Celeron N2820/N2830, Bay Trail-M). ASUS Chromebox is another choice (Celeron 2955U mobile Haswell, better than Bay Trail-M). Check XBMC Forum to see how to install OpenELEC in Chromebox. Should you use Widnows, DN2820FYKH / Chromebox has an audio issue, however (no HD audio bitstreaming [only matters when you use an AVR] / no HDMI audio at all). For videophiles, a Windows system ~$400 or more is the way to go, of course.
When you say for videophiles a Windows system is the way to go, is there something wrong with linux playback? I ask as I use Arch linux regularly and I would elect for-- if not the above solution of an NUC/chromebox/etc. pre-configured HTPC-- a SFF PC with Arch as I am extremely comfortable with that distro (and have never had an issue with various XBMC versions and Nvidia cards over the years), but I haven't done the HDMI-> TV home theater/family room deal that I will be needing to do now. Thanks a lot for your help
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When you say for videophiles a Windows system is the way to go, is there something wrong with linux playback? I ask as I use Arch linux regularly and I would elect for-- if not the above solution of an NUC/chromebox/etc. pre-configured HTPC-- a SFF PC with Arch as I am extremely comfortable with that distro (and have never had an issue with various XBMC versions and Nvidia cards over the years), but I haven't done the HDMI-> TV home theater/family room deal that I will be needing to do now. Thanks a lot for your help
If your main source is 1080p24/1080i60 (except for 1080i60 'movies'; 24Hz refresh rate can't be done automatically), then Linux is good enough. For 720p24 and DVDs, Windows (with madVR video renderer) is obviously better.
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If your main source is 1080p24/1080i60 (except for 1080i60 'movies'; 24Hz refresh rate can't be done automatically), then Linux is good enough. For 720p24 and DVDs, Windows (with madVR video renderer) is obviously better.
My main source will be from 720p/1080p .MKV files, as well as possibly Netflix and some other online subscription services (though not much).
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Hey Renethx or anybody else with some useful input,

I was in process of putting together a new HTPC build based around the Celeron G1840, as it would be capable enough to replace the old Core 2 Duo T6400 laptop I've been using as a placeholder right now.

While searching for components I did come across some of the Gigabyte Brix systems, which honestly there form factor would be PERFECT, with the small footprint and all. I was specifically looking at THIS one with the Bay Trail Celeron in it. Would it be comparable to the G1840 and run what I need it to run flawlessly?

I play FullHD rips pretty exclusively, and may start using the same system for high quality music as well. I use JRiver streaming from a separate media server through gbit connections.

What are your thoughts? Thanks.

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Hello all. New guy here. I'm moving to Saudi in a few weeks and I want to burn my DVD/BR collection to a portable HTPC. I found a guide that suggested these components but I can't find it at the moment. Here's what I have.

CPU: Intel I3-4130T
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-H97M-HD3 LGA 1150 Micro ATX DDR3 1600
RAM: Kingston HyperX FURY 4GB 1600MHz DDR3 CL10 DIMM - Blue
PSU: Seasonic 360W 80PLUS Gold ATX12V SSR-360GP
Drive 1: Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 120GB SSD
Drive 2: Western Digital Caviar Green 3 TB SATA III - WD30EZRX
Drive: LG Electronics 14x Internal BDXL WH14NS40
Case: SilverStone Grandia Series HTPC Case
Other: Windows 8.1, FLIRC dongle, Logitech keyboard K400R, Harmony remote, Netgear AC3200 Nighthawk X6 R8000 router


My Goals:
1. To simply watch the movies I already have
2. Stream Netflix
3. Maybe record some live TV
4. Stay anonymous (have PIA for VPN on the router)


I'm no stranger to IT, but it's still my first PC build. I just want a place to store my movies so I'll be doing a lot of ripping.

Anything missing or anything you'd add? Feedback is appreciated. TIA!

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Hey Renethx or anybody else with some useful input,

I was in process of putting together a new HTPC build based around the Celeron G1840, as it would be capable enough to replace the old Core 2 Duo T6400 laptop I've been using as a placeholder right now.

While searching for components I did come across some of the Gigabyte Brix systems, which honestly there form factor would be PERFECT, with the small footprint and all. I was specifically looking at THIS one with the Bay Trail Celeron in it. Would it be comparable to the G1840 and run what I need it to run flawlessly?

I play FullHD rips pretty exclusively, and may start using the same system for high quality music as well. I use JRiver streaming from a separate media server through gbit connections.

What are your thoughts? Thanks.
Bay Trail is the successor to "Atom" processor. The performance difference between desktop Haswell and mobile Bay Trail is very large, Celeron G1840 CPU is roughly three times better and its GPU is 2.5 times better than Celeron N2807.

But as for FHD video playback, there is no difference, Bay Trail is just good, except that Bay Trail does not support DTS-HD/TrueHD/DD+ bitstreaming over HDMI under Windows (OK under Linux, in particular OpenELEC). (Should you use madVR, go with Haswell Celeron, Bay Trail can't handle it.)

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CPU: Intel I3-4130T
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-H97M-HD3 LGA 1150 Micro ATX DDR3 1600
RAM: Kingston HyperX FURY 4GB 1600MHz DDR3 CL10 DIMM - Blue
PSU: Seasonic 360W 80PLUS Gold ATX12V SSR-360GP
Drive 1: Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 120GB SSD
Drive 2: Western Digital Caviar Green 3 TB SATA III - WD30EZRX
Drive: LG Electronics 14x Internal BDXL WH14NS40
Case: SilverStone Grandia Series HTPC Case
Other: Windows 8.1, FLIRC dongle, Logitech keyboard K400R, Harmony remote, Netgear AC3200 Nighthawk X6 R8000 router


My Goals:
1. To simply watch the movies I already have
2. Stream Netflix
3. Maybe record some live TV
4. Stay anonymous (have PIA for VPN on the router)


I'm no stranger to IT, but it's still my first PC build. I just want a place to store my movies so I'll be doing a lot of ripping.

Anything missing or anything you'd add? Feedback is appreciated. TIA!
CPU: Just go with not "T" but a normal version. "T" does not save power at all at idle.

RAM: Choose 2 x 2GB or 2 x 4GB. A single stick means single channel mode.

SSD: Check Crucial MX100 128GB. A lot better in price and longevity.

Case: Which GD case are you looking at? If you store lots of HD movies, go with GD07 or GD08, that supports

- 1 x ODD
- 2 x 2.5" HDD/SSD
- 9 x 3.5" HDD

MB: Then you can choose an full ATX motherboard. H97 chipset supports only 6 SATA devices. So you will need to add extra controllers. Some mb has built-in third-party controllers (e.g. ASRock Z97 Extreme6 supports 10 SATA devices). Or add Supermicro AOC-SAS2LP-MV8, that supports 8 SATA devices.

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CPU: Just go with not "T" but a normal version. "T" does not save power at all at idle.

RAM: Choose 2 x 2GB or 2 x 4GB. A single stick means single channel mode.

SSD: Check Crucial MX100 128GB. A lot better in price and longevity.

Case: Which GD case are you looking at? If you store lots of HD movies, go with GD07 or GD08, that supports

- 1 x ODD
- 2 x 2.5" HDD/SSD
- 9 x 3.5" HDD

MB: Then you can choose an full ATX motherboard. H97 chipset supports only 6 SATA devices. So you will need to add extra controllers. Some mb has built-in third-party controllers (e.g. ASRock Z97 Extreme6 supports 10 SATA devices). Or add Supermicro AOC-SAS2LP-MV8, that supports 8 SATA devices.
Great advice on the RAM. I have a second 4GB stick being delivered tomorrow.
I went with the GD06 because of the size. Space is limited where it'll sit. And I am certain that 3TB will be enough for a long while.


The questions I have now are about ripping software and formats. The research continues. Ha! Thank you for your help!
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The questions I have now are about ripping software and formats. The research continues. Ha! Thank you for your help!
The ripping software will depend on the format you choose. While there are plenty of formats available out there, for streaming purposes, mkv tends to be pretty universal. It also just so happens to be one of the easiest to rip to. The "downside" to ripping to mkv is that you will lose menus. What you will be left with is movie only. For many, this is not an issue. For full menus, ISO is still probably the best way to go.

If you decide to go with MKVs, then there is really only one program you will need, MakeMKV. This program is about as simple as they come. It will decrypt, and then rip a 1:1 copy of the movie file. You do have the option of selecting subtitles and extras you want copied as well. Most people I know simply make full copies though. If you want to make changes in the future, or compress the files somewhat to save space, that's where Handbrake comes in. Personally, I don't use Handbrake. I like my movies as lossless as I can reasonably get them, but that is entirely subjective. Both MakeMKV and Handbrake are free programs.

If you decide to stick with ISOs, AnyDVD-HD is probably your best bet. It's another simple solution. Insert disc, select make image, done. It will decrypt the data for you and AnyDVD-HD will also address any issues with Cinavia-enabled playback later. AnyDVD-HD is not free, but it does come with an unlimited-use free 30-day trial. After that, there is a pricing tier depending on how long of a license you wish to purchase. Most everyone I know just buys a lifetime key and calls it a day.
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The ripping software will depend on the format you choose. While there are plenty of formats available out there, for streaming purposes, mkv tends to be pretty universal. It also just so happens to be one of the easiest to rip to. The "downside" to ripping to mkv is that you will lose menus. What you will be left with is movie only. For many, this is not an issue. For full menus, ISO is still probably the best way to go.

If you decide to go with MKVs, then there is really only one program you will need, MakeMKV. This program is about as simple as they come. It will decrypt, and then rip a 1:1 copy of the movie file. You do have the option of selecting subtitles and extras you want copied as well. Most people I know simply make full copies though. If you want to make changes in the future, or compress the files somewhat to save space, that's where Handbrake comes in. Personally, I don't use Handbrake. I like my movies as lossless as I can reasonably get them, but that is entirely subjective. Both MakeMKV and Handbrake are free programs.

If you decide to stick with ISOs, AnyDVD-HD is probably your best bet. It's another simple solution. Insert disc, select make image, done. It will decrypt the data for you and AnyDVD-HD will also address any issues with Cinavia-enabled playback later. AnyDVD-HD is not free, but it does come with an unlimited-use free 30-day trial. After that, there is a pricing tier depending on how long of a license you wish to purchase. Most everyone I know just buys a lifetime key and calls it a day.
Nice! Yes, I've been looking at MakeMKV. I saw that you lose menus, how do people switch languages, subtitles, or director's commentary? Right-clicking? The only thing I'd really need is English subtitles. I can switch subtitles with the Harmony remote today.


MakeMKV seems to be $50 after 30 days. Not bad, I guess. How big are the mkv files of your standard BD and DVD?
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Nice! Yes, I've been looking at MakeMKV. I saw that you lose menus, how do people switch languages, subtitles, or director's commentary? Right-clicking? The only thing I'd really need is English subtitles. I can switch subtitles with the Harmony remote today.


MakeMKV seems to be $50 after 30 days. Not bad, I guess. How big are the mkv files of your standard BD and DVD?
MakeMKV is still in "Beta". As a result, it is free - period. It will remain that way until such time that it comes out of beta-testing (if ever). If your version "expires" simply go to the forum. In the "General Discussion" section near the top the developers post a new product key that can be cut/paste into your version of MakeMKV to re-validate it after 30 days. This only pertains to BDs. DVDs are always free, no matter how long it has been.


As for accessing the different audio and subtitle streams, that depends on your player. However your specific player usually accesses those streams remains the way it is. THis does not change. The only thing missing are the physical menus that allow you to navigate to different sections of the disc to skip content or alter settings. Settings can always be altered through the player though, and skipping to the previews is not what most are after anyway.

With television shows, you can even use MakeMKV to break the show down into individual episodes.

I would recommend you at least have a look at MakeMKV. If you do, once you have it loaded up and you pop a disc in, most of it will become readily apparent.
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Bay Trail is the successor to "Atom" processor. The performance difference between desktop Haswell and mobile Bay Trail is very large, Celeron G1840 CPU is roughly three times better and its GPU is 2.5 times better than Celeron N2807.

But as for FHD video playback, there is no difference, Bay Trail is just good, except that Bay Trail does not support DTS-HD/TrueHD/DD+ bitstreaming over HDMI under Windows (OK under Linux, in particular OpenELEC). (Should you use madVR, go with Haswell Celeron, Bay Trail can't handle it.)
Awesome. Thanks Rene. I'll go with the Haswell chip as I do want to utilize those standards.


BTW, any ETA on your new guide. Not pressuring, just curious.
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MakeMKV is still in "Beta". As a result, it is free - period. It will remain that way until such time that it comes out of beta-testing (if ever). If your version "expires" simply go to the forum. In the "General Discussion" section near the top the developers post a new product key that can be cut/paste into your version of MakeMKV to re-validate it after 30 days. This only pertains to BDs. DVDs are always free, no matter how long it has been.
While this is true (I've been using MakeMKV for about 5 yrs.) I did purchase a $50 license just to provide Mike a thanks and support for his efforts.
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While this is true (I've been using MakeMKV for about 5 yrs.) I did purchase a $50 license just to provide Mike a thanks and support for his efforts.
I have purchased as well. I just didn't want @bamaster to be turned away by the contribution price without knowing that there is an option to continue using. I've ripped thousands of discs, the least I could do was contribute $50 for a product that obviously served me well.
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I'll do the "try before you buy" thing. If I like it and end up using it, I'll buy a license. That's just how I roll.


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I'll do the "try before you buy" thing. If I like it and end up using it, I'll buy a license. That's just how I roll.


A very sound and fair way to go!
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