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thanks, seems like I've been waiting forever for G45 reviews to come in

I'd like to see at least one or two reviews before I buy one
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thanks, seems like I've been waiting forever for G45 reviews to come in

I'd like to see at least one or two reviews before I buy one

Haven't seen much in the way of reviews but Archibael produced some interesting statistics here if you haven't already seen them.

BTW, his last posts on the G35 thread don't seem promising for the Repeater "issue" or the 1080p24 bug being fixed by the launch

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I suspect the repeater issue will be fixed, soon. We've given them two workable options, and even some code snippets. They can't be that dense, can they?

24p is where I seem to be drawing blank stares. The individual I wrote to on the graphics team is pinging his contact and so far has gotten no response.

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When you use PStrip to create the timing do you plug the values directly in or use the increase/decrease/move buttons on the custom timing screen?

You can export the timing from PStrip and save it. Can you do that and post it here?

I plugged the values directly in and it worked like a charme.
Where can I export the timings from powerstrip? With the new monitor attached to the old computer, I somehow can't access the advanced timings. Why do you expect those to be different from what's saved in the pstrip.ini, which I posted earlier?

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Also, posting the RAW EDIDs for both would be helpful. Judging by the second report, DTDCalc isn't liking something about the EDID (hence the screwed up Audio capabilities).

Here you go:

00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,34,AC,85,30,0F,06,00,00
FF,FF,FF,00,AC,30,06,00,0E,03,00,78,44,A3,55,23
FF,FF,34,30,00,0E,81,78,69,55,0F,A1,81,40,01,01
FF,00,30,00,03,78,A3,23,A1,80,40,01,01,19,00,88
FF,AC,00,03,0A,55,56,80,01,01,64,00,36,00,00,0F
FF,30,0E,78,55,A1,40,01,01,00,00,18,32,0A,20,4D
FF,06,81,A3,56,40,01,19,18,00,00,0A,00,74,69,FC
00,00,78,23,80,01,19,88,18,0F,20,4D,68,FC,20,1B

00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,4C,2D,B6,02,34,32,55,48
FF,FF,FF,00,2D,02,32,48,12,03,34,A0,5A,A7,4B,24
FF,FF,4C,02,55,12,80,A0,D1,4B,13,BF,A9,80,71,01
FF,00,02,48,03,A0,A7,24,BF,40,40,01,01,3C,B0,20
FF,2D,55,03,2A,4B,54,40,71,01,28,B0,36,00,00,1E
FF,02,12,A0,4B,BF,80,01,01,B0,00,1A,38,0A,20,53
FF,32,80,A7,54,80,01,3C,30,00,00,0A,00,6E,72,FF
00,48,A0,24,40,01,3C,20,1A,1E,20,53,65,FF,35,CA
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,4C,2D,B6,02,34,32,55,48
FF,FF,FF,00,2D,02,32,48,12,03,34,A0,5A,A7,4B,24
FF,FF,4C,02,55,12,80,A0,D1,4B,13,BF,A9,80,71,01
FF,00,02,48,03,A0,A7,24,BF,40,40,01,01,3C,B0,20
FF,2D,55,03,2A,4B,54,40,71,01,28,B0,36,00,00,1E
FF,02,12,A0,4B,BF,80,01,01,B0,00,1A,38,0A,20,53
FF,32,80,A7,54,80,01,3C,30,00,00,0A,00,6E,72,FF
00,48,A0,24,40,01,3C,20,1A,1E,20,53,65,FF,35,CA
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I plugged the values directly in and it worked like a charme.
Where can I export the timings from powerstrip? With the new monitor attached to the old computer, I somehow can't access the advanced timings. Why do you expect those to be different from what's saved in the pstrip.ini, which I posted earlier?



Here you go:

00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,34,AC,85,30,0F,06,00,00
FF,FF,FF,00,AC,30,06,00,0E,03,00,78,44,A3,55,23
FF,FF,34,30,00,0E,81,78,69,55,0F,A1,81,40,01,01
FF,00,30,00,03,78,A3,23,A1,80,40,01,01,19,00,88
FF,AC,00,03,0A,55,56,80,01,01,64,00,36,00,00,0F
FF,30,0E,78,55,A1,40,01,01,00,00,18,32,0A,20,4D
FF,06,81,A3,56,40,01,19,18,00,00,0A,00,74,69,FC
00,00,78,23,80,01,19,88,18,0F,20,4D,68,FC,20,1B

00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,4C,2D,B6,02,34,32,55,48
FF,FF,FF,00,2D,02,32,48,12,03,34,A0,5A,A7,4B,24
FF,FF,4C,02,55,12,80,A0,D1,4B,13,BF,A9,80,71,01
FF,00,02,48,03,A0,A7,24,BF,40,40,01,01,3C,B0,20
FF,2D,55,03,2A,4B,54,40,71,01,28,B0,36,00,00,1E
FF,02,12,A0,4B,BF,80,01,01,B0,00,1A,38,0A,20,53
FF,32,80,A7,54,80,01,3C,30,00,00,0A,00,6E,72,FF
00,48,A0,24,40,01,3C,20,1A,1E,20,53,65,FF,35,CA
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,4C,2D,B6,02,34,32,55,48
FF,FF,FF,00,2D,02,32,48,12,03,34,A0,5A,A7,4B,24
FF,FF,4C,02,55,12,80,A0,D1,4B,13,BF,A9,80,71,01
FF,00,02,48,03,A0,A7,24,BF,40,40,01,01,3C,B0,20
FF,2D,55,03,2A,4B,54,40,71,01,28,B0,36,00,00,1E
FF,02,12,A0,4B,BF,80,01,01,B0,00,1A,38,0A,20,53
FF,32,80,A7,54,80,01,3C,30,00,00,0A,00,6E,72,FF
00,48,A0,24,40,01,3C,20,1A,1E,20,53,65,FF,35,CA

Hi galteser,

I've just been going over your previous posts because TBH I've lost track of where we are with this. To summarise;-

Your objective is to add a custom resolution of 1024 x 576 to provide 1:1 pixel mapping on a Mitsubishi HC900 PJ from an Intel Graphics-based PC via a VGA connection (or maybe DVI?).

There are multiple problems.

1. The original modeline you had (from your old system using powerstrip) is not compatible with DTD's due to the unusually large V.Sync Offset value.

2. When adding even a slight variation on a standard timing through DTDCalc, the new resolution isn't selectable from the Graphics Tray.

3. The "Hidden" Intel Custom Resolution tool didn't work for you either. Don't remember seeing the feedback from that experiment so I guess that was in PM.

4. Archibael's suggested "tweaks" to your original DTD didn't work when adding it through DTDCalc (because of point 2) or manually adding it to the registry. Actually Post #623 suggests that you have managed to add a custom resolution (I assume via the manual registry editing method although this isn't clear) but the timing resulted in an incorrectly positioned image.

Is this about right? Let us know if I've missed something.

Regarding the last post, where did you get the EDIDs from? They seems to be very messed up. As an example the first EDID contains 4 DTDs none of which look like they will work. For example 105x1024@594Hz. The first block in the second EDID is similarly messed up and the extension block isn't an extension block at all but a repeat of the first block

I suggest the following.

1. If you have powerstrip installed on the Intel system, remove it.
2. Connect the system to the PJ only
3. Create an Intel Diagnostic Report and save it to a text file.
4. The .txt should contain the proper EDID for the display. Unless you save the report the EDID isn't included.
5. Post that EDID and we can see if that looks correct.

I suspect if Archibael's suggestion didn't work then the best we're going to be able to do is find the resolution that the PJ's EDID claims to be "native" and adjust that to compensate for any overscan and/ or image position problems unless you can find another modeline for the resolution you want that can be expressed in a DTD.

I really don't know why you can't select timings added via DTDCalc unless it is the language issue I mentioned previously. Other than removing the intel drivers completely and re-installing I don't know what else to suggest to fix that one and neither does the developer that wrote DTDCalc (I asked for you).

Maybe Archibael will have further suggestions but this is all I can think of. Sorry.

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First, thanks again for your dedication.

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Your objective is to add a custom resolution of 1024 x 576 to provide 1:1 pixel mapping on a Mitsubishi HC900 PJ from an Intel Graphics-based PC via a VGA connection (or maybe DVI?).

DVI, rest is correct.

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1. The original modeline you had (from your old system using powerstrip) is not compatible with DTD's due to the unusually large V.Sync Offset value.

2. When adding even a slight variation on a standard timing through DTDCalc, the new resolution isn't selectable from the Graphics Tray.

3. The "Hidden" Intel Custom Resolution tool didn't work for you either. Don't remember seeing the feedback from that experiment so I guess that was in PM.

1+2 is correct.
3 was indeed in PM. I can add a resolution with the hiden tool, but then 2 kicks in and I can't select it.

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4. Archibael's suggested "tweaks" to your original DTD didn't work when adding it through DTDCalc (because of point 2) or manually adding it to the registry. Actually Post #623 suggests that you have managed to add a custom resolution (I assume via the manual registry editing method although this isn't clear) but the timing resulted in an incorrectly positioned image.

Is this about right? Let us know if I've missed something.

I can add a custom resolution to the registry with DTD Calc, I see it in the registry, but then again due to 2 I can't select it. So no incorrectly positioned image.

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Regarding the last post, where did you get the EDIDs from? They seems to be very messed up. As an example the first EDID contains 4 DTDs none of which look like they will work. For example 105x1024@594Hz. The first block in the second EDID is similarly messed up and the extension block isn't an extension block at all but a repeat of the first block

They are both from the pstrip.ini from the old computer. I know at least know, why there are 2 - there where 2 monitors - the PJ and an usual CRT monitor. Why they are messy, I don't know.

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I suggest the following.

1. If you have powerstrip installed on the Intel system, remove it.
2. Connect the system to the PJ only
3. Create an Intel Diagnostic Report and save it to a text file.
4. The .txt should contain the proper EDID for the display. Unless you save the report the EDID isn't included.
5. Post that EDID and we can see if that looks correct.

Here it is:
00 ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 34 ac 85 30 0f 06 00 00
2f 0e 01 03 81 00 00 78 0a 44 69 a3 5d 55 91 23
0f 50 56 a1 08 00 81 80 81 40 71 40 01 01 01 01
01 01 01 01 01 01 64 19 00 40 41 00 26 30 18 88
36 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 fd 00 32 55 0f
50 0b 00 0a 20 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 fc 00 4d
69 74 73 75 62 69 73 68 69 20 0a 20 00 00 00 fc
00 48 43 39 30 30 0a 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 01 1b
02 03 0c 00 47 02 03 11 12 05 84 00 8c 0a d0 8a
20 e0 2d 10 10 3e 96 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 8c 0a
d0 90 20 40 31 20 0c 40 55 00 00 00 00 00 00 18
01 1d 00 72 51 d0 1e 20 6e 28 55 00 00 00 00 00
00 1e f9 1c 80 18 71 1c 16 20 58 2c 25 00 00 00
00 00 00 1e 00 00 00 ff 00 00 00 00 00 ff 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff 00 00 00 00 00 ff
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 43

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I suspect if Archibael's suggestion didn't work then the best we're going to be able to do is find the resolution that the PJ's EDID claims to be "native" and adjust that to compensate for any overscan and/ or image position problems unless you can find another modeline for the resolution you want that can be expressed in a DTD.

I really don't know why you can't select timings added via DTDCalc unless it is the language issue I mentioned previously. Other than removing the intel drivers completely and re-installing I don't know what else to suggest to fix that one and neither does the developer that wrote DTDCalc (I asked for you).

Maybe Archibael will have further suggestions but this is all I can think of. Sorry.

I will look for another modeline.
(But as long as custom resolutions I added to the registry can't be chosen, that is kinda pointless.)
Maybe the new EDID helps.
Maybe it is the language issue then. IIRC correct the Vista is russian/english in the first place. If other things will not help, I will try to get another windows. But do I understand that right, if I get me a German/American (standard package around here, I guess), then the problem would be the same, _IF_ it is a language problem? Would I need to get an English only version?

Thanks so much,
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First, thanks again for your dedication.



DVI, rest is correct.



1+2 is correct.
3 was indeed in PM. I can add a resolution with the hiden tool, but then 2 kicks in and I can't select it.



I can add a custom resolution to the registry with DTD Calc, I see it in the registry, but then again due to 2 I can't select it. So no incorrectly positioned image.



They are both from the pstrip.ini from the old computer. I know at least know, why there are 2 - there where 2 monitors - the PJ and an usual CRT monitor. Why they are messy, I don't know.



Here it is:
00 ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 34 ac 85 30 0f 06 00 00
2f 0e 01 03 81 00 00 78 0a 44 69 a3 5d 55 91 23
0f 50 56 a1 08 00 81 80 81 40 71 40 01 01 01 01
01 01 01 01 01 01 64 19 00 40 41 00 26 30 18 88
36 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 fd 00 32 55 0f
50 0b 00 0a 20 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 fc 00 4d
69 74 73 75 62 69 73 68 69 20 0a 20 00 00 00 fc
00 48 43 39 30 30 0a 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 01 1b
02 03 0c 00 47 02 03 11 12 05 84 00 8c 0a d0 8a
20 e0 2d 10 10 3e 96 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 8c 0a
d0 90 20 40 31 20 0c 40 55 00 00 00 00 00 00 18
01 1d 00 72 51 d0 1e 20 6e 28 55 00 00 00 00 00
00 1e f9 1c 80 18 71 1c 16 20 58 2c 25 00 00 00
00 00 00 1e 00 00 00 ff 00 00 00 00 00 ff 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff 00 00 00 00 00 ff
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 43



I will look for another modeline.
(But as long as custom resolutions I added to the registry can't be chosen, that is kinda pointless.)
Maybe the new EDID helps.
Maybe it is the language issue then. IIRC correct the Vista is russian/english in the first place. If other things will not help, I will try to get another windows. But do I understand that right, if I get me a German/American (standard package around here, I guess), then the problem would be the same, _IF_ it is a language problem? Would I need to get an English only version?

Thanks so much,
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Hi Mate,

Sorry for the delay. That EDID looks much better. It advertises 720p as "native" (I know that's not the actual number of pixels but in theory the PJ claims that's what it'll be happiest with). There's even a handy DTD

01 1D 00 72 51 D0 1E 20 6E 28 55 00 00 00 00 00 00 1E

I'd make this my starting point but, as you say, that info is pointless unless we can work out why you can't select a custom resolution after it's been added to the registry

How does the image look if you select 1280x720 from the Graphics Tray? Badly broken text and significant overscan?

Regarding the language question, I don't know why this makes a difference but I'm fairly sure it's a driver thing rather than a DTDCalc thing which is why you can't get the manual registry editing to work either. All I can tell you is I know both methods have worked on English (UK and US) and German versions of Windows in the past.

Really sorry but driver inconsistencies are well outside my ability to fix All I can suggest is a complete driver removal, registry clean and re-installation to see if that helps. Failing that, it's over to Archibael for additional thoughts.

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Hi Mate,
Sorry for the delay. That EDID looks much better. It advertises 720p as "native" (I know that's not the actual number of pixels but in theory the PJ claims that's what it'll be happiest with).

Don't worry, your help has been outstanding, so please don't apologize.
It can't show 1024x576 as native, as that is not allowed by VESA. 720p is the next best. I saw that there is a 1024xsomething and another somethingx576 DTD, maybe those could be "combined" somehow? But:

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I'd make this my starting point but, as you say, that info is pointless unless we can work out why you can't select a custom resolution after it's been added to the registry

Exactly.

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How does the image look if you select 1280x720 from the Graphics Tray? Badly broken text and significant overscan?

1280x720 is what I use right now. I have to say, that this is my dedicated movie PC in my home cinema and it works just fine for watching movies. So the pressure is not that big anyway. When I browse my files before the movie the text on the screen isn't really sharp and I can't read the clock in the lower right corner due to the overscan. But I can see the start button
Native would be just nicer for that and for getting rid of the overscan.

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Regarding the language question, I don't know why this makes a difference but I'm fairly sure it's a driver thing rather than a DTDCalc thing which is why you can't get the manual registry editing to work either. All I can tell you is I know both methods have worked on English (UK and US) and German versions of Windows in the past.

When I have lots of time I might install a German Vista one day ...

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Really sorry but driver inconsistencies are well outside my ability to fix All I can suggest is a complete driver removal, registry clean and re-installation to see if that helps. Failing that, it's over to Archibael for additional thoughts.

The whole system is pretty new and next to virgin, so I dont see what a re-installation should change? It can't be better that new, right?
Thanks Wo0zy, for you help. It didn't change much, but I appreciate it anyway!
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I have read this thread and I cant figure out whats wrong. I have a presario c700 with the x3100 integrated with vista32. I have tried using DTDcalc and it shows up in the registry after reboot but its still not in the settings box or in the mode list. I'm trying to hook VGA up to my lcd tv. the tv doesn't put out an edid so i had to Modeline it, the tv max. resolution is 1366*768. The laptop monitor displays 1280*800 but the max for the tv is 1024*768. I have also tried using 1360*768 to try to fool it but that doesnt work either. Very irritating. Any help would be appreciated.
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I have read this thread and I cant figure out whats wrong. I have a presario c700 with the x3100 integrated with vista32. I have tried using DTDcalc and it shows up in the registry after reboot but its still not in the settings box or in the mode list. I'm trying to hook VGA up to my lcd tv. the tv doesn't put out an edid so i had to Modeline it, the tv max. resolution is 1366*768. The laptop monitor displays 1280*800 but the max for the tv is 1024*768. I have also tried using 1360*768 to try to fool it but that doesnt work either. Very irritating. Any help would be appreciated.

Few questions mate.

1. Have you searched the registry for all "TotalDTDCount" and "DTD_1" entries. Are they all correctly populated?

2. What version of the drivers are you using?

3. What's the make/model of the TV?

4. What language is the OS?

5. What modeline are you using?

It might be worth trying to find the older 15.6.2 drivers and installing those to see if that makes any difference but I doubt it. All of our systems are now using the 15.9 drivers and both DTDCalc and the manual registry editing method still work.

Could you re-read This Post (if you can follow my ramblings and then maybe export and post the relevant keys.

As I said to galteser, if the manual method doesn't work then it's unlikely to be a DTDCalc problem in which case I'm not sure there's much I can do. Archi is MIA at the moment but when he gets back hopefully he'll look over the information I've requested from you as well and perhaps can come up with a suggestion.

Cheers,

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1. yes

2. v. 15.9

3. westinghouse sk-26h240s

4. not sure exactly what you need

5. one I found online.
1366*768

dotclock 85.5
httimings 1366 1494 1624 1798
vttimings 768 770 776 795
-hsync +vsync
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1. yes

2. v. 15.9

3. westinghouse sk-26h240s

4. not sure exactly what you need

5. one I found online.
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vttimings 768 770 776 795
-hsync +vsync


Hi mate,

Point four relates to the native language of your Windows installation. Most of the problems we've seen have been on systems configured for non-English installations. We have no idea why.

I'll try your modeline on one of our test systems tomorrow and see what happens.

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thanks. the language is english
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Hi mk2flip,

I just remembered that I had a demo G35 system in my car

The system is running the latest 15.9 drivers.

I added your modeline using DTDCalc and after the reboot it was instantly selectable from the Intel Graphics Tray. The timing doesn't work on my TV but as you can see from the screenshot (attached), it is there.

This doesn't help you but just goes to show why we have so much trouble helping people with this type of problem. We just can't reproduce it

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i appreciate the help. i am sure that you know this but i have the express gm965 chipset. and yes it is frustrating.
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Hi mk2flip,

I just remembered that I had a demo G35 system in my car

The system is running the latest 15.9 drivers.

I added your modeline using DTDCalc and after the reboot it was instantly selectable from the Intel Graphics Tray. The timing doesn't work on my TV but as you can see from the screenshot (attached), it is there.

This doesn't help you but just goes to show why we have so much trouble helping people with this type of problem. We just can't reproduce it

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I noticed in the attatchment that on your intel accelerator graphics window it says digital television, mine just says monitor when i hook it up to my tv.
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I noticed in the attatchment that on your intel accelerator graphics window it says digital television, mine just says monitor when i hook it up to my tv.

How is your system connected to the TV? The test system was via HDMI.

If your connection is VGA it would explain why your graphics tray says "Monitor".

Have you tried adding a resolution other than the 1366x768 timing? Maybe slightly adjusting one of the DTD's in your EDID report (assuming there are some).

Edit: Just re-read your first post so yes you have tried another timing and yes it is VGA. That's why your Graphics Tray says Monitor Sorry.

When I get a minute I'll extract the relevant parts of the systems registry and post them here for you to compare with your system. Maybe we can find a difference in the populated keys that will lead to a solution.

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Sorry, yes, I've been MIA on vacation; just got back today and I'm slowwwwwly catching up.

mk2flip, it is possible your BIOS is refusing the timing. Can you try

66 21 54 B2 51 00 1B 30 82 82 26 00 00 00 00 00 00 1C

which is 1364x768.

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Still nothing.
I dont have to enable anything do I ?
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Sorry, vacation ate my brain so I'm forgetting what we tried with you so far. Can you do a search on the registry for "TotalDTDCount" and verify they're all >0? Then check that all DTD_1 entries are

66 21 54 B2 51 00 1B 30 82 82 26 00 00 00 00 00 00 1C 37 01

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Archibael or Woozy- Have you had any complaints about Vista SP1 and the tool?

I used DTDcalc and everything went well when I connected my PC over hdmi when running Windows Home Server and used DTDcalc to fix my overscan problem, but I'm trying a new OS (Vista Ult 32) and I cannot get DTD calc 'apply' button to work when I am 'tuning' the settings to eliminate overscan. I'm following the exact same instructions as I did with WHS, yet no dice.

I'm going into DTD calc, selecting the included settings for 1920x1080P, moderately changing the settings to reflect 1922x1080p, importing those in the reg hack page, saving it to the reg, rebooting, selecting 1922x1080 as my resolution through the intel tool, then firing up DTDcalc, going to reghack tool, selecting 1922x1080, create modline, go to tuning, click ruler, and then-- no apply button. I can position the window, but can't click apply.

I've searched everything on this thread and on the net regarding greyed out apply buttons in dvd calc, and the only thing I see is to make sure I'm running in the resolution I'm trying to edit. I'm doing this. I've tried this every which way from Sunday I can think of. Any suggestions?

**edit** forgot to say that I have disabled UAC in vista, my account is an administrator so I'm running everything with elevated privleges (did this trying to rule out uac/run as administrator as the root of the problem)


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Archibael or Woozy- Have you had any complaints about Vista SP1 and the tool?

I used DTDcalc and everything went well when I connected my PC over hdmi when running Windows Home Server and used DTDcalc to fix my overscan problem, but I'm trying a new OS (Vista Ult 32) and I cannot get DTD calc 'apply' button to work when I am 'tuning' the settings to eliminate overscan. I'm following the exact same instructions as I did with WHS, yet no dice.

I'm going into DTD calc, selecting the included settings for 1920x1080P, moderately changing the settings to reflect 1922x1080p, importing those in the reg hack page, saving it to the reg, rebooting, selecting 1922x1080 as my resolution through the intel tool, then firing up DTDcalc, going to reghack tool, selecting 1922x1080, create modline, go to tuning, click ruler, and then-- no apply button. I can position the window, but can't click apply.

I've searched everything on this thread and on the net regarding greyed out apply buttons in dvd calc, and the only thing I see is to make sure I'm running in the resolution I'm trying to edit. I'm doing this. I've tried this every which way from Sunday I can think of. Any suggestions?

**edit** forgot to say that I have disabled UAC in vista, my account is an administrator so I'm running everything with elevated privleges (did this trying to rule out uac/run as administrator as the root of the problem)


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Latest drivers from intel.com for the g33
vista english ult 32 bit

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Hi Chris,

I've not add problems with SP1. However, I've never tried to edit a resolution greater than 1920x1080p either.

It sounds like you're doing everything exactly as you should so as a workaround, try starting the process again but this time instead of creating 1922x1080 ready for editing try adding 1918x1080.

I'll give the 1922x1080 timing a try later but I'm not sure my 1080p display will work with anything above 1920x1080 so I doubt I'd be able to apply it anyway.

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Hello, I'm new here!

First of all, thanks to everyone who made DTD Calculator happen. Hopefully someone here can help me with the problem I'm having with DTD Calculator (or rather the settings of it).

What I am trying to do is to connect the D945GCLF to a tube TV via a VGA -> RGB/Composite-Sync -> Scart Adapter. This works fine with another PC and an old Nvidia Card, but I'm unsure about the settings I need to apply to make it work on the GMA 950 on my new D945GCLF board.

First image: Selected the standard PAL resolution

Second image: Curiously, some settings then change when I apply the settings - I don't know why, but it works fine.

Now what would I need to do to 'convert' these working settings to the values in DTD Calculator? I would really appreciate if someone could help me with this.
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What is the maximum resolution that the AOpen MP965-DR MiniPC puts out. I am looking at buying two and want to use them as HTPCs in conjunction with 42” and 32” 1080p LCD TVs. Thanks for your feedback.

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Hi Chris,
It sounds like you're doing everything exactly as you should so as a workaround, try starting the process again but this time instead of creating 1922x1080 ready for editing try adding 1918x1080.
Wo0zy

Thanks Woozy. I was going by the first post in this thread, which talked about upping the resolution a pixel or two to 1922 before saving. I'm guessing that advice was specific to 1080i as opposed to 1080p? Regardless, I'll definitely give it a try when I get home this evening. Thanks!


Another quick q- I installed the tvwizard.exe on top of my intel video applet, and while I could use it to select resolutions, I could never click/drag the screen to resize for overscan using the TVWizard tool. Is that a supported function anymore?

Also, Do you recommend me uninstalling the intel applet and just installing the driver manually and using the MS Windows screens to set resolution, or is this not worth it as the intel applet is unlikely to be a failure point for dtdcalc?
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Hello, I'm new here!

First of all, thanks to everyone who made DTD Calculator happen. Hopefully someone here can help me with the problem I'm having with DTD Calculator (or rather the settings of it).

What I am trying to do is to connect the D945GCLF to a tube TV via a VGA -> RGB/Composite-Sync -> Scart Adapter. This works fine with another PC and an old Nvidia Card, but I'm unsure about the settings I need to apply to make it work on the GMA 950 on my new D945GCLF board.

First image: Selected the standard PAL resolution

Second image: Curiously, some settings then change when I apply the settings - I don't know why, but it works fine.

Now what would I need to do to 'convert' these working settings to the values in DTD Calculator? I would really appreciate if someone could help me with this.

Hi dshoe,

Not sure I'm going to be able to help. Sorry.

I tried something similar with an Intel Graphics setup and couldn't get it to work at all even though it worked fine using an NVIDIA card. I tried combinations of DTDCalc and Powerstrip but nothing seemed to work.

I think it was something to do with needing to use such a low scan rate which I don't think the Intel solution supports. Maybe Archibael can come up with a suggestion.

Again, sorry.

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dshoe,

The settings for ct.png are
44 05 D0 90 20 20 0C 10 0C 3F 12 00 00 00 00 00 00 98

Settings for ct2.png are
44 05 D0 90 20 20 18 10 10 38 23 00 00 00 00 00 00 98

The second set are closer to 50Hz, so are probably better, if they're working in Powerstrip or Nvidia.


EDIT: Ah, I see now the concern. Woozy could well be correct; I've seen folks with problems before at pixel clocks less than 25MHz. It may be a limitation.

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What is the maximum resolution that the AOpen MP965-DR MiniPC puts out. I am looking at buying two and want to use them as HTPCs in conjunction with 42 and 32 1080p LCD TVs. Thanks for your feedback.

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Hi Chad,

You'll be able to output 1080p but whether or not you can get smooth video playback will depend on a lot more factors other than whether or not the system can display 1920x1080 pixels.

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I tried something similar with an Intel Graphics setup and couldn't get it to work at all even though it worked fine using an NVIDIA card. I tried combinations of DTDCalc and Powerstrip but nothing seemed to work.

I think it was something to do with needing to use such a low scan rate which I don't think the Intel solution supports. Maybe Archibael can come up with a suggestion.


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EDIT: Ah, I see now the concern. Woozy could well be correct; I've seen folks with problems before at pixel clocks less than 25MHz. It may be a limitation.

That's somewhat worrying to hear. I thought the GMA 950, or the driver, were able to generate a standard PAL signal (eventhought it probably wasn't designed for that).

I will try out the custom DTD posted by archibael nonetheless, maybe I will be successful. Unfortuantely that will have to wait until tomorrow.

Thanks Wo0zy and archibael for your quick replies.
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It can generate a PAL signal in general, but I think there's a problem with doing it over VGA and a converter. If you had an ADD2 card with a SCART connector, I'm sure it would work just fine.

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