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I think you are overlooking the fact that I skillfully squeezed the information out of him with immaculately good timing.

Definitely immaculately good timing oh bovine great one!

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Definitely immaculately good timing oh bovine great one!

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...By the way, I haven't read about uploading rid files with the boot image in a long, long time, but does it require you to go through the photo partition in order to do it (that you have to have space configured on your photo partition)? Is this true for adding rid files via WiRNS as well? I haven't configured photo partitions on any of my Replays, so that could be a reason for me to stick with the RCA box instead of the Zenith...

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Without a photo partition the only option is likely to use extract to overwrite an existing rid file set. Otherwise it's well worth it to offload and reformat with a minimal photo partition. Or set up an all new (re- purposed?) ReplayTV just for OTA duty.

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...I am not sure what you meant by "Zenith DTT900 works great with the 4K/5K replays using said imported blaster code". I may have to ask you for a play-by-play on how to get the ReplayTV mind-melded to the Zenith box if I have any problems figuring it out myself.

It means you need to download the new code here and follow the instructions at the top of the section to get the custom rid file loaded on the 5060 using the scripts with a manual net connect.

Of course if all that fails you can always wimp out and "fall back" to the lesser RCA.
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Definitely immaculately good timing oh bovine great one!

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I prefer Great BIG cow

Ok, I'm being modest. If you only knew ($) ($) ...I wish I could tell you. Ok, what the heck. According to the contract I signed long ago: when I die I'll will become simply known as "The Supreme" TVs across the nation will light up with beautiful Actors/Actresses testifing how great I am, and display my self-portrait mashup in the background as they gush about my quality and taste. It has already been decided this will kick off a nationwide feast that will last exactly six weeks runnig concurantly to the televised celebration in my honour. They tell me I will stay in the hearts of many till the day they die. Just wow. Sometimes I think about all of this and cry for a few.

I was always good at contracts. I also nailed a deal with 24 Hour Fitness. I paid $900? I think for 3 years and only $20 A Year! thereafter for life. I rarely go though because the agent they assigned me steers me away. He says the producers don't want the look of my body to change at-all! That's fine though. I don't mind not going.
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Ok, I'm being modest. If you only knew ($) ($) ...I wish I could tell you. Ok, what the heck. According to the contract I signed long ago: when I die I'll will become simply known as "The Supreme" TVs across the nation will light up with beautiful Actors/Actresses testifing how great I am, and display my self-portrait mashup in the background as they gush about my quality and taste. It has already been decided this will kick off a nationwide feast that will last exactly six weeks runnig concurantly to the televised celebration in my honour. They tell me I will stay in the hearts of many till the day they die. Just wow. Sometimes I think about all of this and cry for a few.

I was always good at contracts. I also nailed a deal with 24 Hour Fitness. I paid $900? I think for 3 years and only $20 A Year! thereafter for life. I rarely go though because the agent they assigned me steers me away. He says the producers don't want the look of my body to change at-all! That's fine though. I don't mind not going.

Off your meds again?

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Off your meds again?

Seriously doubt that, but looks like *another* Curmudgeon forgot extra layers of combat hosiery?
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Off your meds again?

Just what the world needs, another pharm bully.



I concede that--unlike your comment--nothing I write will ever stand up to writers of TV shows, like, say, Desperate Housewives, which averages ~23 million viewers a week, and can't be expected to live up to the normalicy these viewers have established.
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I've never watched a single episode of Desperate Housewives, and I don't think one could persuade me to change this.

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I'm with you nded, but my wife and teenage daughter would poke me with sharp sticks if it didn't get recorded in my house. In HD, preferably.
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Can anyone confirm if the Channel Master unit can be controlled by a Replay 3xxx or Showstopper? If so, which code did you use? Thanks!!
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Can anyone confirm if the Channel Master unit can be controlled by a Replay 3xxx or Showstopper? If so, which code did you use? Thanks!!



Hmm...I use a channel master antenna rotator..it uses the pioneer codes and you can assign a "channel" number (2 digit) to any antenna point.....if the channel master cecb could be controlled by the replaytv then potentially I could use the dual emitter IR blaster cable (got one from my tv I think) to control both the antenna AND the digital box..I have one channel that requires antenna rotation to get tuned in where the other 4 come in pointed at one location.

If anyone does get the cecb working please give a yell or if you see issues with this idea let me know that too please.

Right now I just use a samsung and keep the antenna on the 4 main channels.
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If anyone is interested, I got my ancient 2K unit's never used IR blaster to talk to a Radio Shack coupon'd unit, an NHENS "Digital Stream" DTX-9900. I used Dish Network local, blaster code 0899.

This works because Dish maps local OTAs to their correct slots. But because Dish doesn't have the sub-channels, I can't tune them with the Replay remote, see them in the guide or set up manual recordings for them either unless I can come up with a work-around. Not a lot of work-arounds with these old 2K units. So for now I will only get main channels.

It is a bummer that these coupon eligible units don't have S-Video, but the quality is quite nice at medium setting. And this unit does have anamorphic, as well as 14:9 and 16:9 settings.

Oh, and I had to lock out hundreds of unused Dish channels to keep the channel guide accurate. But since the Replay gets guide info for the channels you don't want, I guess it means the nightly calls to the mother ship are going to be lengthy! The initial set-up call took over half an hour.

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I have received and integrated the Channel Master CM-70 Digital to Analog box to my Replay, using IR code 0144. No special IR file downloads were required. I got mine at Summit Source. They accept the $40 coupons (if anyone has any non-expired ones). This unit has S-Video and a couple screen display options. (Still playing with those). I think Fry's has these too, but not sure if they accept the coupons.
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My ReplayTV IR Blaster controls a Channel Master CM-7000 using code 0144. Using S-video input on #2 with "nothing" on remaining and Dish programming, I have a good result.
I also have an Insignia which does not slave and an RCA which does.
The Insignia seems to have a superior chip and channels can be added. It is fast and crisp and modern. However, the remote volume only controls the converter which is awkward.
The RCA crashes and channels cannot be added. It is slow and the menus are out of a cartoon book. The remote volume control does control the TV: the amp rather than the pre-amp if you will.
The Channel Master is slower and cruder than the RCA. It does seem to be stable. The channel add feature works. It seems to be more sensitive than either of the others to a marginal signal.
On programming, Dish is better than DirectTV. The DirectTV programming included corrupt files which caused the Replay to crash upon viewing the Guide info.
I'll try to talk Radio Shack out of a DTX9900 demo to see if the Replay 5040 can control that.
I'd like to make the Insignia work and know it is within my abilities to learn what the **** WIRNS is but there must be something better to do with my time. Please let me know if there is a file I can download, burn, and play through some peripheral to teach the Insignia to respond to IR commands from the 50 40. Thanks.
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The DTX9900 is a nice converter and the ReplayTV 5040 would activate it using code 0899 as suggested above. It would not control channel selection however. Regardless of hardware and positional changes (including polarized sunglasses as a filter) double IR commands resulted in duplicated digits for channel selection. EG, the Replay would command channel 5 but the DTX would respond with 55. You could see the DTX was receiving multiple commands as its power light would flash repeatedly. No other codes made it work and I even checked the lettered ones. Too bad but my relatives are sending me the coupons I had them order now that they realize they don't need them on cable (for now). I tried codes 749, 819 as suggested below with no luck. My 5040 codes stop at 7999 so I could not try 8749 or 9749 or later key them in directly per Kiwin's instructions below. The Radio Shack clerk said to keep an eye out for the forthcoming EchoStar converter since they make all the Dish boxes, for which ReplayTVs have codes.
POSTSCRIPT: KIWIN NOTED THAT THE IR BLASTER TRANSMISSION MAY BE FINE TUNED BY PRESSING "REPLAY ZONES" IN SETUP. YOU CAN THEN KEY THE CODE NUMBER IN DIRECTLY. THERE ARE OTHER VARIABLES SUCH AS DELAY, MINIMUM # DIGITS, AND "SEND ENTER" THAT CAN BE ADJUSTED. I WONDER IF TWEAKING THESE WOULD HAVE HELPED BEFORE I RETURNED THE UNIT.
KIWIN STATES IN THE SUCCESS THREAD RE THE RCA UNIT

Connect RCA DTA-800B composite video and audio output to ReplayTV input 1
On ReplayTV in "Menu" \\ "Setup" \\ "Network and Input Settings" \\
"Change IN 1":
choose "Satellite box"
choose "DISH Los Angeles" (or your metro area or DirecTV local seems to work - national will not give local stations)
Satellite Box brand": Other
On "available Code Sets" press the "Replay Zones" button.
change "Enable Fine Tuning" to "Yes"
Codeset: "0566" use the number keys on the remote to type the 4 numbers
Send Enter: yes
Minimum digits to send: 1
All the delays should be: 200ms
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I successfully got the Replay 3000 to control the DigitalStream DTX-9950 last night.

Use IR blaster code 749, 819, 899, 8749 or 9749. All of them turned on and off the unit. I left it at 9749 and then successfully tested changing channels.

Channel change lag was awful though.. appx 4 seconds by the time the Replay switched to the input, vs the 1 second delay I had on the RCA DTA800B.

I'm going to try to interface the Tivax unit next week.
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The Radio Shack DTX9900 is reasonably quick, has a universal remote that controls the TV's audio amplifier directly, and has an additional scan feature which allows it to add stations after the rotor repositions the antenna. It is my recommendation for non-ReplayTV users. As noted above, it could not make channel selections for either of my ReplayTV 5040s.
It was quick enough (not Insignia speed but faster than the RCA) as opposed to the comments above regarding the DTX-9950 so I suspect they use different chips.
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My Channel Master CM-7000 and my RCA DTA800 were hooked to the same feed through a splitter and recorded the same RF-48, renumbered 5, program on separate 5040s under poor reception conditions. The DTA800 produced numerous video and audio drop-outs. The CM-7000 was dramatically drop-out free. This was not a scientific experiment but the signal off the attic mounted beam was boosted 22 db at the mast so coax length should not have played a part. Adversity included rain and overcast conditions-shooting through a wet asphalt shingle roof and a big wet decicuous tree.
The CM-7000 is slow, there is about a 5 second delay on channel changing. I don't know if the S input has given me any quality but my perceptions were colored by finding it so slow. The remote is not universal but this is irrelevant for ReplayTV users.
Anyway, it is the only option outside of the Motorola for ReplayTV 5040 users. It doesn't crash, freeze or lose audio like the Motorola either. Check Ebay for the Motorola although WalMart, Lynwood, had them last month. Summit Source took my coupon and $40 for the Channel Master.
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My Channel Master CM-7000 and my RCA DTA800 were hooked to the same feed through a splitter and recorded the same RF-48, renumbered 5, program on separate 5040s under poor reception conditions. The DTA800 produced numerous video and audio drop-outs. The CM-7000 was dramatically drop-out free. This was not a scientific experiment but the signal off the attic mounted beam was boosted 22 db at the mast so coax length should not have played a part. Adversity included rain and overcast conditions-shooting through a wet asphalt shingle roof and a big wet decicuous tree.
The CM-7000 is slow, there is about a 5 second delay on channel changing. I don't know if the S input has given me any quality but my perceptions were colored by finding it so slow. The remote is not universal but this is irrelevant for ReplayTV users.
Anyway, it is the only option outside of the Motorola for ReplayTV 5040 users. It doesn't crash, freeze or lose audio like the Motorola either. Check Ebay for the Motorola although WalMart, Lynwood, had them last month. Summit Source took my coupon and $40 for the Channel Master.

Does the channel master handle subchannels via replaytv as in dialing 022 for channel 2.2? (obviously only useful on manual records).
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I use wirns, so I have set up cahnnels like 2.2 to be 22 with a 243 Zones fine tuning to always send 3 characters.

Works Great.
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I tried 022 and various alternatives on the Replay remote but did not convince the Channel Master to tune to a subchannel. Obviously, in LIVE Replay viewing, you can use the Channel Master remote to tune to any digital channel or subchannel. I also tried changing the FINE TUNING to require a minimum of 3 digits to be sent without result.
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I tried 022 and various alternatives on the Replay remote but did not convince the Channel Master to tune to a subchannel. Obviously, in LIVE Replay viewing, you can use the Channel Master remote to tune to any digital channel or subchannel.

I don't believe that the Replay remote gets sent directly to the IR blaster. First you tune to a channel that the Replay recognizes, and then the Replay tunes the STB. So, there really isn't any difference between entering a channel number through the remote, using channel up and down, selecting a channel through the channel guide, or the Replay tuning to a channel to record a show. If you can't get the STB to tune to the correct channel, then there probably has to be something wrong with the IR configuration. Anyway, my point is that entering "022" on the Replay remote doesn't actually make the Replay send "022" to the STB. Changing the IR fine tuning as described for 3 digits is what makes it send "022" whenever the Replay attempts to tune to channel 22...

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I'm looking (and hoping) for a simple solution......

I have three 5000 series replays. Two are together in one room and the other is alone in another room. I recently aquired a Zenith DTT-900 and 901 digital converter (they seem to be the same, other than the analog pass through on the 901).

I have no computer at home, limited knowledge of computers and a very tight budget.

Is there any (simple) way for me to get the replays to control channel changes on the Zenith boxes? I'm very satisfied with the Zeniths and would like to use them. Not having channel change is a major problem and a big dissapointment!

Is there some way of inputting a specific code number on the 5000's (without involving a computer, software, etc.)?

Any suggestions and/or solutions would be greatly appreciated!!
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I was unsuccessful in trying to control an Insignia with an 5040 . The Insignia is said to be a clone of the Zenith. The only reported successes are the RCA and the Channel Master although I suspect the Digital Stream may be made to work. Please see my posting above in this regard and in regard to direct entry of codes. Codes may be keyed in after enabling Fine Tuning but codes not listed on the machine are rejected. There are postings regarding adding codes through something called WIRNS but I have not tried it as it is complicated and problems could arise.
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I have 3 replays that are various '5000' units. I have purchased two Zenith DTT900s for two of them to use as a way to record digitally. I've downloaded KenL's remote codes, and downloaded WiRNS. I have a network, consisting of a cable modem, that feeds a 24 port switch. I am able to do all sorts of transfers between computers on my network, so I know that works. My computers run Vista, but I've also tried on an XP computer, but I can't get the 'shellcmds' file to run via the Net Connect. WiRNS is flaky on all of these computers, the server seems to run, but not the application program. When I configure my ReplayTV for static net settings, it immediately checks the network, finds something strange, then resets the settings to a useable number. The other files are in the proper photo partition, but the pesky shellcmds file won't get there. I'm finally giving up and asking for help. Thanks!!!
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I've posted in another thread here about my experiences with the CM-7000 and a 2000-series DVR.

Summary: so far, depending on the IR blaster settings, I have a choice of either (a) ability to control subchannel switching through the IR blaster, but the Program Guide is useless, or (b) ability to use the Program Guide, but no access to subchannels for channels 1 through 9.

I'm intrigued by satpro's success with the RCA DTA800 reported here--and to be honest, a little skeptical. Maybe I need to try setting the IR blaster to send 4 digits instead of 1, 2, or 3.
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Thanks for replying, satpro.

I do use DirectTV local. (I also tried Dish local for kicks; however its local station numbers aren't quite as accurate as DirectTV in terms of matching up to the OTA numbers.)

I'm using a Channel Master CM-7000, not the RCA box, so the IR blaster code is 0144 which I believe is a Pioneer code.

If I set the IR blaster via fine tuning to send a minimum of 1 digit (or 2), then for any given channel in the Program Guide, it sends the main channel number, and after a delay the CM defaults to subchannel 1 of that channel. E.g. if I set the DVR to channel 4, the CM receives 04 and then tunes to 4-1. If I tune to 20, the CM receives 20 and then tunes to 20-1.

However I don't think this allows me to set up manual records of subchannels of channels 1 through 9 (in my area, that would be 2, 4, 5, 7, and 9). IIRC you wrote that with your setup you could get the DVR to switch the RCA box to channel 2-2 by tuning the DVR to 0022. If I do that from my remote--or, it seems, from the manual record menu--the DVR just switches to channel 22 and sends 22 to the CM, causing the CM to try to tune 22-1.

I can tune to sub-channels above 9 this way. E.g. if I want 44-2, I just set the DVR to 442; it sends 442 to the CM, which tunes 44-2.

The only alternative I've found is to set the IR blaster to send a minimum of 3 digits. With this, if I want e.g. 2-2, I tune the DVR to 22 and it sends 022. If I want 22-1 I tune the DVR to 221 and it sends 221. The problem is that the Program Guide is now useless for tuning or recording. E.g. if I use the Program Guide to go to channel 2, the IR blaster just sends 002, which the CM nonsensically believes to be channel 00.2. A little more reasonably, but still wrong, if I use the Program Guide to go to channel 44, the IR blaster sends 044 and the CM tries to tune 4.4.

Basically I'm surprised that your setup is letting you tune channels 2 and 22 from the Program Guide and channel 2-2 via direct input, but the RCA box and/or the IR blaster operation for the code associated with the dta-100 may just work in a way that gets around the issues I've encountered.
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So if I understand correctly, there are 3 boxes that the a Replay 5040 can control. There is the RCA but that box has lock up issues. There is the Channel Master CM-7000 but subchannels cannot be tuned. Then there is the Zenith boxes but that one requires Wirns to make a change on the Replay's software and you need a newer box so you don't have audio issues.

Is that correct?

I used one of my coupons and bought a Zenith 900 box from Circuit City. They did not have any 901's yet but did have the April 08 boxes (which is what I got).

I hooked it up and the box works but of course there is no built in code to change channels. I am not interested in any of the subchannels and the guide data from the local cable company has the proper channels for the stations I want.

After turning off the "auto turn off" feature, I am happy with the Zenith box. So, can anyone give me a short course on what I need to do to get the IR codes loaded? I do have a photo partition on that replay.

If it is a hassle, I suppose I can always go and get the Channel Master box.

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