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I no longer use the "Extract_RTV" program since getting my ReplayTV 4000. Been doing all my "downloads" directly with that 4K unit. However I "was" doing all my extracts with both the 2K and 3K RPTVs for I guess almost a year without problems. Er, I mean "strange" problems. I've always had the "bad GOP', and other things about 50 percent of the time but have usually been able to "fix" it.
However, for YOU "MrWilson" .. any friend of "Dennis" is a friend of mine. So I'll dig up my old removable 2k unit (not being used at the moment) and do a padded record for ya. Might take a couple days before I can get it all put back together.
Of course I'm assuming "Mr Wilson" is Dennis the Menace's neighbor, no? heh heh ...
I've been a long time user of MPEGVCR and MPEG2VCR. Yes, as per one of the other posts noted, you can do a lot with 250 bucks. BUT, if you intend to do any serious MPEG editing then the cost is well worth it.
It WILL re-encode the saved output IF you have changed any of the Mpeg parameters. NOTE: it ALSO re-encodes any FX effects you've added, like a fade or merge or wipe between cuts. However this encode for those effects only entails a few frames in and around the add effect. You'll notice when it is "saving" how it will pause for a few seconds at each of these changes. My added effects at an average of say 5 points only increases the "save" time about one or two minutes.
If you've been around as long as I have and had checked out "all" the true frame accurate mpeg editors, you'll see that the Womble program is by far and away the best bang for your buck. Others that do what the Womble can do cost considerable more.
250 bucks is a relative figure and you have to justify it against how much you are going to use it.
Here's a quick 1-2-3 on the best way to use it without re-encoding.
Open the mpeg. It will be added to the work area. Click on the "in and out" points that you want to "copy" to the clipboard, one by one. Use the left/up arrow for the in point and the right/up arrow for the out point. After those points are set, click on the "COPY" icon. This will put that section into the "clip list".
Now move your pointers to the next area to "copy". Keep doing this and you'll usually find a one hour TV show will have five or six clips saved. And generally the total play time of all those clips should be about 43 minutes.
Now after having put all your "wanted" clips onto the clipboard, close the main mpeg window in the work area. (you won't need it any longer)
Now drag the first clip to the work area. It will come up as did the original Mpeg movie .. but only with the new clip's length.
Mark the end of the clip (important to do this)
Now drag the next clip onto that existing clip in the work area. A 2nd mpeg window will open showing the combined two clips. At this point you can add a transistion effect or not. Again, make sure the beginning and end point of the combined clips are marked. (Important to have the end mark as each time you add a new clip from the clip list it will automatically be placed where ever you had made the mark out or end mark)
Just keep dragging and dropping the next "saved clip" from the clip list to the working area mpeg. When you are done, mark the in and out and you should see an mpeg about 43 minutes long (if doing a normal USA TV one hour show)
Now hit the RECORD button. DO NOT open the video or audio properties. Well you "can" open them .. to check them out, but be very careful not to change anything. After hitting the RECORD button, it should take anything from a few minutes to maybe 15 (if you are running something like a 233 Mhz CPU)
NOTE: .. if you HAVE the latest November version of Womble, and you are working with ReplayTV series 2 or 3000 mpeg extracts, THEN you CAN open up the "audio" only parameters before the final save, and change the 32 kHz audio to 48 kHz. This only works with the latest version of Womble. Otherwise with the older versions it will attempt a full re-encode. The lastest version WILL allow you to make that change (and only an audio change) without having to re-encode the video as well. This WILL increase the saving time, but only by a few minutes.
Lastly, a tip for you guys using the older version. (as long as it's registered) Downloading the latest version from the Womble "purchase site" should UPDATE your existing version. I'm pretty sure you don't need to re-register or get a new SN. (those of you using "borrowed" SNs etc. should still be able to upgrade) (wink) I do NOT condone piracy but I figure maybe if you get it all working correctly that somewhere down the line you might invest in it? heh heh. I did.
The latest version is sorta "hidden". It's not notated or documented on the Womble site. It's simply there for downloading on the "purchase page". If you are intending to buy it, then fill out the form and download. If you alread have an older (working) version, do not fill out anything on the page and just download it. When you click on the downloaded file to install it, it should find your older version and update it.
Hope this all helps ..