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post #1 of 6 Old 11-30-2000, 09:24 PM - Thread Starter
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The ability to quick skip 3 to 4 minutes at a time is pretty snazzy, but why do you suppose it only works on recorded programs and not on programs that you are watching live but are 5 or 10 minutes delayed? I sure can't imagine any technical or logistic reason.

Hard drive recorded video is the same in either case. In both cases you are streaming video off the drive and manipulating pointers within that recorded region to navigate, so why shouldn't it work? The throughput isn't any higher than watching one recording while recording another program.

Could this be a compromise to the forces within Replay that consider sophisticated commercial skipping too daring for their image among advertisers?...That they might have accepted that giving us the ability to easily jump over a block of commercials is acceptable in a program that was recorded "in the past" (aren't they all?) but feel that having that ability within a "live" broadcast is hitting too close to home?

If that's the case then the emperor sure has a fine new set of clothes, because there isn't a significant bit of difference between those two recording methods.

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My assumption was that the implementation was as follows.

On a pre recorded show, when you hit 5 + quick skip the software looked at the time index and moved to time index + 5.

ie. Right not we are at minute 28 of show x. Go to minute 33 of show x.

When you are watching a delayed show there would be no such index.

This is just a guess.


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On a pre recorded show, when you hit 5 + quick skip the software looked at the time index and moved to time index + 5.

ie. Right not we are at minute 28 of show x. Go to minute 33 of show x.

When you are watching a delayed show there would be no such index.
The machine does know how much delayed it is running so it could add a delta time to this and jump. I'm sure it could do this comuptation and implement relative jump for live though possibly delayed viewing.

But my guess is that they implemented the relative jump using the existing code to do absolute jumps which only worked for recorded shows.

I have noticed that a lot of the limitations in ReplayTV functionality comes from prior design decisions which in some cases were not the best choices. For example, not doing negative padding because they couldn't resolve a case where the user caused start time to exceed end time is a poor excuse.
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Does the X + QS jump X minutes or X * 30 seconds?
Same with IR? Does it jump X minutes back or X * 7 seconds?

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Does the X + QS jump X minutes or X * 30 seconds?
Same with IR? Does it jump X minutes back or X * 7 seconds?

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Minutes, in both cases.

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Originally posted by ReplayMike:
By the way, it does work on shows that are currently recording. It just doesn't work on the live buffer. That's just how it goes with Easter eggs sometimes. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/wink.gif

He's right. I've done n + QS to jump through commercial breaks on shows that started recording before I began to watch and are still recording. The difference is that these shows were scheduled to record in my Replay Zone, note buffered. I think this is soooo cool.
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