BIG price drops for 55xx replays - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-15-2003, 10:49 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
Stephenb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 28
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I have become aware of some VERY big price drops for replays 55xx coming by the end of this week.

They appear to be dropping arond 50% at the wholesale level including activation for 3 years. 320 hours units substantially under $700!!

I am also hearing there have been some layoffs at DNNA.

Do these two things indicate some tough times ahead for Replay and their competitors.

I'd be interested in what anyone else has heard around this info.
Stephenb is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-15-2003, 11:32 PM
AVS Special Member
 
lizard_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 4,530
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Let me be the first to say:

REPLAY'S GOING OUT OF BUSINESS, YOUR UNITS WILL BE DOORSTOPS SOON!!!

DNNA IS SELLING THE REPLAY LINE TO TIVO!!!

SONICBLUE IS BUYING REPLAY BACK JUST TO RUN IT FURTHER INTO THE GROUND!!!
lizard_boy is offline  
Old 12-15-2003, 11:47 PM
AVS Special Member
 
icecow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Redlands, California
Posts: 7,899
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Stephenb,
Where are these price drops going to be?

lizard_boy,
Is it true what you said about Sonic Blue?

cow
icecow is offline  
Old 12-15-2003, 11:50 PM
Senior Member
 
j.freiman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Francisco, California
Posts: 252
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
lizard_boy,

Don't joke about such things... I have a pretty strong heart, but even that one makes me feel dizzy...

I too would like to know if you were serious or joking.

-John
j.freiman is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 12:08 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Jeff D's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: One step ahead of you
Posts: 8,275
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 14
Like SonicBlue has any money to buy back the brand.... no.
Jeff D is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 12:14 AM
AVS Special Member
 
lizard_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 4,530
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Yes, it's all true. Especially the lies.
lizard_boy is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 12:23 AM
AVS Special Member
 
icecow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Redlands, California
Posts: 7,899
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally posted by lizard_boy
Yes, it's all true. Especially the lies.
Ok, thanks. That's what I thought

cow
icecow is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 05:03 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Scyber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,730
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I have heard that some of these rumors may be true and some of them may be false. ;)
Scyber is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 06:32 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Amazingly Smooth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Austin, TX USA
Posts: 2,146
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 10
If you search this forum (and now the archive too), you will see hundreds of "the sky is falling" posts. Despite peoples best wishes, RTV is still around.

Cheers

Except, of course, in paranoid delusions for those that believe.
Amazingly Smooth is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 07:11 AM
AVS Special Member
 
jones07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Phila Pa.
Posts: 4,851
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally posted by Stephenb
I am also hearing there have been some layoffs at DNNA.

.
Perfect time of year for a layoff. Don't you just love it ? :o

Nothing personal It's just business. ;)

WeÂre doomed. It will never work
jones07 is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 07:49 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Bobcrane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 1,462
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 10
"No senator, I do not recall having any knowledge of affor mentioned rumors regarding to the success, or failure of spandex."

-We were talking about Replay dying!

"No senator, I have no recollection of such a conversation. I can neither confirm or deny that you and I know anything." :)

Sorry, channeling Ollie North

Bob
Bobcrane is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 08:06 AM
Member
 
breaux124's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 170
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Buy.com has the 5504 for $149, but then it mentions Service activation is needed. I thought they did away with the activation for 3 years?
breaux124 is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 08:40 AM
AVS Special Member
 
asinshesq's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,618
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally posted by lizard_boy
Yes, it's all true. Especially the lies.
Shades of Godel's incompleteness theorem. "This statement is false" (or, more Godelian, "this statement cannot be proved").

Alan
asinshesq is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 11:00 AM
Senior Member
 
jobedo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Cumming Iowa
Posts: 489
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 10
i am not suprised a tivo 100$,a replay 500$ and i dont know if i want one at all which will i chose
jo
jobedo is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 11:04 AM
AVS Special Member
 
icecow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Redlands, California
Posts: 7,899
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally posted by asinshesq
Shades of Godel's incompleteness theorem. "This statement is false" (or, more Godelian, "this statement cannot be proved").
That Godel dude is a trip. He came over from Germany(i think) to become an american citizen a few years after WWII ended. He studies the constitution to pass the cheezy easy constitution test thingy and starts blabbing about finding inconsistancies in the constitution that could potentially lead the USA into becoming a dictatorship. So him(Godel), Einstein(sp), and one or two other dudes get in the car and take Godel down to be interviewed with a Judge as part of the getting citizenship deal thingy. Eienstien keeps telling him a bunch of stories to shut him up from talking about the USA--->Dictatorship thing. All seems to go well(as far as shutting him up). They go to see the judge. In the interview the judge says something to the effect of ~"I see you are comming from Germany, a place ruled by a brutial dictatorship. You won't have to deal with that here". Godel interjects something like I beg to differ, I know it can happen.... Several guys restrain him and the judge ignores the whole thing.

Those were crazy times.

cow
icecow is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 11:11 AM
Senior Member
 
MrFussy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 428
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
So is this just DNNA backing off the dumbass move of bundling the service into the initial purchase price, and giving the customers the choice again?

Tim W.

3RTV over ethernet + DVA show server over buffalo wireless
MrFussy is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 11:27 AM
AVS Special Member
 
lizard_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 4,530
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally posted by asinshesq
Shades of Godel's incompleteness theorem. "This statement is false" (or, more Godelian, "this statement cannot be proved").
http://www.peteykins.com/images/Fark...radoxNancy.jpg
lizard_boy is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 11:40 AM
Advanced Member
 
dyker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 731
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I was at Circuit City today. They had a big sign next to the Replays saying the price was dropping effective tomorrow maybe (can't remember exactly). The $149 price on a 5504 was specifically mentioned.

Tivos were flying out the door. Literally They have a sale on DirecTivo series 2 40 hour units for $99. Requires $4.99/month DirecTV fee for service.

And I just bought a 5080 for $250 and activated (last night) it for $250. Shoot.

Does anyone know: Can lifetime service be returned to DNNA if I decide to return the unit to BestBuy to get one of these cheaper 5508 units (I don't care about CA or ISS)?

This space for rent.
dyker is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 11:47 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Mikeyboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: S. Dartmouth, Ma.
Posts: 4,611
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally posted by dyker
I was at Circuit City today. They had a big sign next to the Replays saying the price was dropping effective tomorrow maybe (can't remember exactly). The $149 price on a 5504 was specifically mentioned.

Tivos were flying out the door. Literally They have a sale on DirecTivo series 2 40 hour units for $99. Requires $4.99/month DirecTV fee for service.

And I just bought a 5080 for $250 and activated (last night) it for $250. Shoot.

Does anyone know: Can lifetime service be returned to DNNA if I decide to return the unit to BestBuy to get one of these cheaper 5508 units (I don't care about CA or ISS)?
I believe ReplayLyndon posted you can refund lifetime within 30 days of purchase.

Really what will you gain. Say you bought the 5540 $149 with lifetime activation $299 = $448 You paid $52 more for a lifetime 5080 commercial skip, extra 40 hours space and show sharing.
Mikeyboy is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 11:49 AM
Senior Member
 
RamblinWreck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 272
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Dyker:

Replaytv USED to have a 30 day return policy on replays, and this included a refund on the lifetime activation. However, their web site no longer mentions the possibility of a refund on the lifetime activation (I looked at the Service Activation FAQ). I guess its time to call customer service and find out what's going on.

The 5080 you purchased is still $100 cheaper than a new 5508 (299 + 299 activation). (Although I grant you that the cheapest approach is to buy a 40 hour unit and upgrade the hard drive.)

Hope this has helped (although I suspect it has not).

RW
And a Helluva an Engineer !
RamblinWreck is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 11:50 AM
AVS Special Member
 
icecow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Redlands, California
Posts: 7,899
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally posted by jones07
Perfect time of year for a layoff. Don't you just love it ? :o

Nothing personal It's just business. ;)
>They get to spend the holidays with their family..maybe even mom.
>They get to enjoy christmas with long periods of silence from their kids.
>They get to make deep, profound new years resolutions.
>They get a fresh start in life with new years day
>They get to really party on new years eve.
icecow is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 12:00 PM
Advanced Member
 
dyker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 731
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Thanks guys. Hate to say it but the $100 DirecTivo is tempting me. Even though I dislike the Tivo interface ( the 5080 I bought last week for $250+$250 was to replace a DirecTivo) I'd end up $1000 ahead by selling both 5080s and getting the DirecTivos. I had no idea the DTivos were selling so cheap. But, I'd have less hours on each unit and no networking.... But I'd have $1000 to spend on something else!!

Things to think about.

This space for rent.
dyker is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 12:10 PM
Senior Member
 
RamblinWreck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 272
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally posted by dyker
Thanks guys. Hate to say it but the $100 DirecTivo is tempting me. Even though I dislike the Tivo interface ( the 5080 I bought last week for $250+$250 was to replace a DirecTivo) I'd end up $1000 ahead by selling both 5080s and getting the DirecTivos. I had no idea the DTivos were selling so cheap. But, I'd have less hours on each unit and no networking.... But I'd have $1000 to spend on something else!!

Things to think about.
I picked up my DirectTivo for $30 AR. Also, there is only ONE monthly Directtivo charge of $4.99 a month regardless of how many DirectTivos you have. Finally, you may want to check out a forum that goes something by the name of www dealdatabase com. (I left out the periods because apparently there is some animosity between the AVS moderators and the dealdatabase moderators). In particular, check out the series2 hack section and some stickies by Sleeper.

Upgrading a directivo disk is easy although not as easy as upgrading a Replaytv disk. And people are working on getting show sharing (ftp'ing of files between units actually) up and running on the directtivos. They already have downloading of shows perfected.

Having said all that, there is no way that I am getting rid of my replays in favor of a TIVO. That's blasphemy !!

Hope this has helped.

RW
And a Helluva an Engineer !
RamblinWreck is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 12:17 PM
AVS Special Member
 
tluxon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Kirkland, WA
Posts: 2,675
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally posted by MrFussy
So is this just DNNA backing off the dumbass move of bundling the service into the initial purchase price, and giving the customers the choice again?

Tim W.
It may have been dumb for the majority, but not everybody would agree. I have a friend that just chose a Replay over a TiVo because of the much lower monthly cost. He said he got it for about $370 including the 3-year activation. My brother is starting to look seriously at getting a PVR, but is exceedingly reluctant to buy anything that has an additional monthly cost for guide service. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

Without any details, Replay_Roger informed some of us that somewhere around 11/19 "a bunch of us were informed that we are no longer ReplayTV employees".

I think these symptoms indicate that DNNA is prepared for a shift in the future of the home entertainment market that justifies a fairly significant change in their allocation of resources. I'm guessing they figure that now that the majority of the most critical "bugs" have been ironed out of the 5K series, it is time to ramp up production and let the product run its course with minimal added technical development. They may very well want to begin fresh and build a new product from the ground up that better fits their perception of the future in this market.

Tim
tluxon is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 12:20 PM
 
egcarter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Keaau, Hawaii, USA
Posts: 3,570
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Here is the new retail pricing structure for the Replay TV models:

RTV5504 $149.99
RTV5508 $299.99
RTV5516 $449.99
RTV5532 $799.99

Service Subscription is no longer included in the price, but is available as a lifetime deal for $299.99 or $12.95 a month.

Eric
egcarter is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 12:23 PM
AVS Special Member
 
tluxon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Kirkland, WA
Posts: 2,675
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally posted by egcarter
Here is the new retail pricing structure for the Replay TV models:

RTV5504 $149.99
RTV5508 $299.99
RTV5516 $449.99
RTV5532 $799.99

Service Subscription is no longer included in the price, but is available as a lifetime deal for $299.99 or $12.95 a month.

Eric
So the increase in activation pricing that was announced somewhere around last May finally took place. Looks a little more like TiVo pricing now, but at least lifetime is still available.
tluxon is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 12:28 PM
Advanced Member
 
dyker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 731
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
What I'd really like is a DirecTReplay.

This space for rent.
dyker is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 12:34 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Roto's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,286
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally posted by dyker
What I'd really like is a DirecTReplay.
Except they should call it a DirecteReplay, or maybe a DirectoReplay for movie buffs. Damn Tivo for starting with a T. They snagged all the good marketing people :mad:

-Rob
Roto is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 12:49 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Scyber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,730
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally posted by egcarter
Here is the new retail pricing structure for the Replay TV models:

RTV5504 $149.99
RTV5508 $299.99
RTV5516 $449.99
RTV5532 $799.99

Service Subscription is no longer included in the price, but is available as a lifetime deal for $299.99 or $12.95 a month.
With those prices they will compare very favorably with TiVo's on the shelf. The 40 hour TiVo is $199 after rebate, assuming these are before rebate it will be $100 cheaper up front.
Scyber is offline  
Old 12-16-2003, 01:33 PM
Member
 
g501's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 195
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I guess the thread implies the prices will hit the streets tomorrow.

If anybody can identify a place where such prices can be found on the internet, I'd love to hear about it. As of just now the prices at Amazon, buy.com and circuit city are still a lot higher.
g501 is offline  
 
Thread Tools


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off