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Hmm... well it looks like people in the forums of Rob's Remote site have been receiving these remotes and noone is yapping 'Hey! this is the wrong remote'

So I ordered four of them at $8 each and a Infrared Mini-Controller (IR543) for $23
http://www.x10.com/products/x10_ir543.htm

The total was $54.xx so I got free shipping (over $50)

I was primarily after the Infrared mini-controller.



But Check This Out...

4 of these remotes and the Infrared Mini-Controller (IR543) for $54 is a great combination. The remote sends out both IR and RF signals. The remote comes with a box that recieves the RF signals and resends them as IR signals. (The same drill as the Rat Shack 2117s). So just use RF box to resend IR signal into the Infrared Mini-Controller... and presto. you can control all your TVs, VCRs and X10 stuff with the same remote. All of a sudden having 4 of the same remotes makes a lot of sense. After you get one remote how you want it with JP1 you can just copy those settings over to all the other remotes. All the remotes will act the same so you can pick up any one and not be confused. An extra remote can be placed by the front door to turn off lights.. and TVs..
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4 of these remotes and the Infrared Mini-Controller (IR543) for $54 is a great combination. The remote sends out both IR and RF signals. The remote comes with a box that recieves the RF signals and resends them as IR signals. (The same drill as the Rat Shack 2117s). So just use RF box to resend IR signal into the Infrared Mini-Controller... and presto. you can control all your TVs, VCRs and X10 stuff with the same remote. All of a sudden having 4 of the same remotes makes a lot of sense. After you get one remote how you want it with JP1 you can just copy those settings over to all the other remotes. All the remotes will act the same so you can pick up any one and not be confused. An extra remote can be placed by the front door to turn off lights.. and TVs..
This is how I've been using the 2117s since they got so cheap...

But now I need another solution for my basement theatre because the RF signals carry from floor to floor.

This is it!

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...I was primarily after the Infrared mini-controller.
How extensive is your X-10 collection?

I've been using X-10 since the days of BSR (>25 years), with (at least) 50 devices, using a CM11 (previously a TW-523) & (at least) 6 Housecodes (counting in my head: C-Lights, H-Appliances, M-Macros, F-Motion Detectors, L-Basement, P-Chimes). Although I've been following Rob's "$7.99 DEAL" threads, I don't see this as the route to X-10 nirvana, but simply a nice "accessory" (because of the ONE Housecode limit). IMO, one (or more) CM11s [*AVOID* the CM15 at-all-costs at this time!], several RR-501s (or TM-751s), and several PalmPads and some KeyPads are the perfect "economy" ticket for X-10.

At this point, I'm very interested in seeing someone compare the URC-9811B00 to the RS 15-2117 - on the surface, they appear to be "twins" (or at least "kissing cousins") to me.

Regarding both remotes and their X-10 interface, I see their *best* usage as a Macro Selector (for the "most popular" lighting scenes previously programmed) into the CM11.

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...The remote comes with a box that recieves the RF signals and resends them as IR signals. (The same drill as the Rat Shack 2117s). So just use RF box to resend IR signal into the Infrared Mini-Controller... and presto. you can control all your TVs, VCRs and X10 stuff with the same remote.
*IF* your X-10 inventory is limited to 10 (or 16 [i.e. *ONE* Housecode] - I haven't read the "specs" yet - just guessing) devices or less...

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If you really want to be able to control several house codes with an IR remote, you should get the hacked IR543AH box from http://www.homeautomationnet.com

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IR543AH: Transmits all (16) X10 House and Unit Codes using many Universal IR Remotes!
Modified version of the IR543 for use with PC programmable remote controls like Pronto, Theater Master, MX1000, InVoca Delux, and many others. This transciever module can control all 256 X10 House and unit codes. Software is included.
And *ONLY* $109.95 each!

Plus, will it work with a "standard" URC/RS JP1-capable remote, or does it require a Pronto, Theater Master, etc... ?

For $110, I can buy a CM11 @ $35 and LOTS of other X-10 "goodies"... ;)

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...At this point, I'm very interested in seeing someone compare the URC-9811B00 to the RS 15-2117 - on the surface, they appear to be "twins" (or at least "kissing cousins") to me.

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Yes the IR543AH is expensive, but if you need it, you need it. The reason it costs so much is because the guy that hacks them is in England, so there's shipping costs back and forth to the UK built into the price, plus they're done by hand.

And yes, you can control the IR543 with a regular JP1 remote, I have loaded an upgrade for it.

The 15-2117, URC-9910 and HT-Pro are all basically the same remote internally, the differences are mostly what you can see. Such as, the 15-2117 has a much better backlight and generally looks better, but the URC-9910/HT-Pro has alot more buttons. he HT-Pro and 9910 are EXACTLY the same remote internally, from a JP1 POV you can't tell them apart. The 15-2117 is not exactly the same, you can consider it a "cousin".

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My three HT-PROs arrived today (shipping took only 18 hours -- yes hours -- from Harrisburg PA to Darien, CT).

I can at least verify that Rob's picture is correct (not that there was any doubt).

I am in the market for a replacement 2117... anyone interested in a trade for one of these HT PROs????

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I am in the market for a replacement 2117... anyone interested in a trade for one of these HT PROs????
And you were going to part with one of your extras to help me out... someone help him out!
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While on the subject of irrationally priced remotes, you should check out the HT-Pro remote (which is a re-badged "One For All" URC-9910) which can be had from X10.com for just $7.99, and if you spend $50 they'll give you free shipping.
Unfortunately, they've run out. (Clearly icecow and plyons10 snapped them all up!) I placed an order yesterday, and today received the following from X-10:

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Greetings from X10.Com.

Please accept my sincere apologies. I contacted the third-party vendor who previously offered the Universal URC-9811B00 Home Theater LCD Remote Control and found that it has been discontinued at their Fulfillment Center; they are unable to obtain it from the manufacturer. This may mean that it has also been discontinued with the manufacturer, although this is merely speculation. We are, therefore, unable to fill your order.
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Back in stock - just ordered...
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Back in stock - just ordered...
Even after X-10 cancelled my order, their website still indicated the item was "In Stock" and orders could still be placed. Don't be surprised if you get a similar cancellation email...but let us know if you don't!
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Unfortunately, they've run out. (Clearly icecow and plyons10 snapped them all up!) I placed an order yesterday, and today received the following from X-10:

My four, it looks, Departed FedEx the HARRISBURG, PA sort facility on the 24th in a getway car just in time.

I got them on the skin of my teeth.

Tom Slick: yay.
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Your best bet at selling a JP1-enabled remote would be the JP1 forums, so feel free to post something in the Market Place forum if you like.

While on the subject of irrationally priced remotes, you should check out the HT-Pro remote (which is a re-badged "One For All" URC-9910) .....
Robman-

THANKS!!THANKS!!

I just wished that I had the funds to get more than one of these....

I have been using 'JP1' remotes and X-10 for years!

But have not needed to update anything for a few years!

Thanks!

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Looks like they're still orderable. Just ordered a couple and got an email confirmation from X10.

BTW, on the One-For-All site http://www.ofausa.com/remote.php?type=URC%209911
they indicate the URC 9911 is the Canadian version of the 9910. The discription states "FOR OPERATION OF CANADIAN DEVICE MODELS." Sounds like this could pose limitations to those who want to use the pre-programmed codes for some US products.
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Please accept my word on this, the URC-9911, the URC-9910 and the HT-Pro are all EXACTLY the same remote internally with the exact same set of setup codes. Yes, I know the web site says different, but look at it this way, the X10 web site is showing a picture of a re-badged URC-9800 Producer 8 but all of you that have received remotes from them got the URC-9910 clone just like I said you would, right? Plus, the manuals for these remotes tell you that you can just learn to the 4 learning buttons, and we all know that's baloney, right? So trust me, the URC-9911 is the same remote as the URC-9910/HT-Pro, they're just decorated a little differently on the outside.

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If you really want to be able to control several house codes with an IR remote, you should get the hacked IR543AH box from http://www.homeautomationnet.com
Regarding the single house code limitation.

I use three URC 9910's throughout the house with some X10 integration thru a home automation system. If can go this way, the single house code limitation can be overcome by assigning a unique house code to a 9910-IR543 pair and then remapping the remotes' button codes to do whatever you want (including X-10 macros) thru the automation controller.
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As I mentioned, I use 3 of the 9910s and find these to be an almost perfect match for my needs.

The single missing feature I'd like most to see on these devices is the ability to set unique RF channels between a remote and the RF-IR link. This would prevent multiple remotes from controlling RF-IR links in other rooms.

Has anyone figured out how to change channels/frequencies?
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I've been wondering if the Ratshack 2117 and the 9910 use the same RF frequencys and signals. i.e. are they compatible or even use the same hardware?

I'm supposing they do not till I get mine and check.

If they are diff, the ratshack 2117s could be a solution.
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My 9910s don't seem to interfere with the 2117 IR base station in any way. This was important to me because I'm running the 9910 for my basement theatre and the 2117s for the living room controls. Both setups have the same ReplayTV, receiver, and cable box controls. I have't observed anything funky yet.

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... the URC-9911, the URC-9910 and the HT-Pro are all EXACTLY the same remote ...
Any idea why One For All chose to create a unique model number for Canada?

Just curious.
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I've been wondering if the Ratshack 2117 and the 9910 use the same RF frequencys and signals. i.e. are they compatible or even use the same hardware?

I'm supposing they do not till I get mine and check.

If they are diff, the ratshack 2117s could be a solution.
The 15-2117 and the URC-9910, etc are all made by the same company (UEI - Universal Electronics, Inc) and they all use the same RF frequencies, so the 15-2117 remote will work with the URC-9910's base station, etc.

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Any idea why One For All chose to create a unique model number for Canada? Just curious.
Who knows? Inventory control maybe? They use different numbers for all the Canadian remotes, for example...

USA --> Canada
URC-9960 = URC-9962
URC-8011 = URC-8017
URC-6011 = URC-6017

They also use unique model numbers for Walmart! But this one I can explain. Some of the stores that sell the regular OFA models (like Circuit City) offer a price match guarantee which would be totally messed up if they had to compete with Walmart. So, let's say that you pick up a URC-8811 at CC for $25 and then you notice that you can get the exact same remote from Walmart for just $17, you'd be inclined to take the URC-8811 back to CC for a price match refund, but then they'll point out that the Walmart remote is actually a URC-8810w, which while it may look the same (and it actually IS the same) it's technically a different remote.

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The 15-2117 and the URC-9910, etc are all made by the same company (UEI - Universal Electronics, Inc) and they all use the same RF frequencies, so the 15-2117 remote will work with the URC-9910's base station, etc.
As an $8 experiment (once I get the new remotes from X10), I may see if it's possible to do a little "tuning" on the RF frequencies to isolate one remote-base station pair from another. If I come up with any interesting results, I'll post them.
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They use different numbers for all the Canadian remotes, for example...

They also use unique model numbers for Walmart! ...
Perhaps they use different US/Canadian numbers for the same reason: to protect their retailers by discouraging people living near the border from buying a cheaper version from "the other side".

BTW, thanks Rob for sharing this outstanding deal and all the related product details! Makes you wonder if OFA is dumping these to clear out inventory for replacement models (which they're due for).
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The 15-2117 and the URC-9910, etc are all made by the same company (UEI - Universal Electronics, Inc) and they all use the same RF frequencies, so the 15-2117 remote will work with the URC-9910's base station, etc.
I don't know why I even try to contribute to a remote control thread when you're around Rob.

Turns out that for the two or three days I've been using my 9910 in my basement, my wife had moved the 2117 base station upstairs so the signals weren't getting broadcast. We just didn't notice because we're usually right in front of our AV equipment up there.

I just move things back around and now from my basement I'm changing everything upstairs too.

OK... so now it's official. I'm long three of these puppies (two unopened). I guess I'll wait until X10 is sold out and supply the stragglers at my cost, unless I can find a grateful friend who hasn't yet discovered the joys of Jp1 enabled universal remotes. Actually, I've got a lot of those. I just need one who actually wants to listen to me talk about it again!

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So.... by the way.... anyone else got a 2117 lor 2116 laying around? I'm stocking up. I already got the one mentioned a few days ago. I notice you are all out, huh Rob?

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BTW, thanks Rob for sharing this outstanding deal and all the related product details! Makes you wonder if OFA is dumping these to clear out inventory for replacement models (which they're due for).
OK, maybe this is nit-picky, but it's not OFA that's dumping these remotes as they're not OFA product. It's either the distributor or UEI that's getting rid of them. Even though we all think of UEI and OFA as being the same company, and once upon a time they were, they are totally seperate organizations now. OFA is a now customer of UEI, just like Radio Shack is.

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So.... by the way.... anyone else got a 2117 lor 2116 laying around? I'm stocking up. I already got the one mentioned a few days ago. I notice you are all out, huh Rob?
Yup, I grabbed up a box of 20 of them when they were first discontinued, and sold them all. Well, actually, I kept one for myself, just in case I ever need it.

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Perhaps they use different US/Canadian numbers for the same reason: to protect their retailers by discouraging people living near the border from buying a cheaper version from "the other side".

BTW, thanks Rob for sharing this outstanding deal and all the related product details! Makes you wonder if OFA is dumping these to clear out inventory for replacement models (which they're due for).
I'd guess that the US vs Canada difference for RF remotes has to do with what frequencies the FCC and its Canadian counterpart have allowed UEI to license in each geography.

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I'd guess that the US vs Canada difference for RF remotes has to do with what frequencies the FCC and its Canadian counterpart have allowed UEI to license in each geography.
Before Rob's comments about them being the same, I also thought this might be the case. It would be nice if they did use different frequencies. I just opened a 9910 (old style) and saw no obvious way to change the frequency on the RF board.

BTW, the RF board plugs into the main board (labeled 8910.... the non-RF version of the 9910).
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Just to clarify further, I was stating that the remotes are the same internally (ie, a JP1 user would not be able to tell them apart). I have not actually seen the Canadian model in person, so I don't know for sure that the base unit works on exactly the same frequency (but I expect that it does).

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