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Updated 10-28-06:

The new URL for the mvpmc project (thanks to atlr):

http://www.mvpmc.org/

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I just noticed that there is a sourceforge project (new software for the Hauppauge MediaMVP) that looks like it might be able to serve directly as a ReplayTV thin client (no PC server necessary).

http://mvpmc.sourceforge.net/idx.php?pg=main

It looks like it is in the early stages of development, but seems to be able to play files off of a ReplayTV server. That would be very cool, since the MediaMVP is sub $100.

I am not at all involved in the project, just happened to stumble across it.

Sorry if this is old news, but it appears to be fairly recent work.....
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It plays files off of DVArchive, not directly from Replay units.
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I have a MediaMVP and it plays the MPEG's downloaded by DVA 3.1 just fine. I've heard that there should be a discrepency with audio but I haven't seen it yet. Does anyone know what conditions make the offset audio occur?

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According to this post, it appears that mvpmc is pretty close to being able to stream directly from a ReplayTV box.....

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http://www.shspvr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5551

Posted: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 20:38:01 +0000 Post subject:

I have added minimal support to mvpmc for connecting to a ReplayTV. I have tested it against DVArchive 3.1, and it works there. I've been told it does not work with series 5000 ReplayTVs, but I think it should work with the 4000 series.

If anyone is interested in extending this to make it work better, please let me know. I don't have a ReplayTV, so I won't be able to do much more than I have without help.

Jon

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Is there anyone here who could help out from the Replay side?

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Hmmm..... Isn't this were JeffD should jump in?

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I would stick with the XBox. The extra features like DVD player, and playing games would seem to be a huge benefit for not much extra money at all considering these things go for $100+
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Originally posted by waynethedvrguy
Hmmm..... Isn't this were JeffD should jump in?

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I got the replayTV, but I don't have the MediaMVP... damn.

Or should I loan this guy one of my boxes? I've currently got one offline and two in the boxes still.
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jastori:

Right now, going the XBox route is THE way to go ($ for $ vs. benefits).

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Wayne and MIS man... I think you guys really MIS the point that the MVP media player is good to go out of the box and is alot cheaper than a mod'd X box for most people.

Frankly, I spend so much time watching TV on my Replays that I don't have time to play video games and I already have all the DVD players I need.

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While I concur that the Xbox is the better all-around choice if you don't mind spending a little more time/money doing the mod or having it done for you, I understand the attractiveness of a more ready-to-go solution such as the MediaMVP. I would suggest to whomever is working on the RTV MediaMVP stuff to take a look at the ReplayTV module used in XBMC (libRTV.lib). It includes all the basics required for streaming from ReplayTVs and C++ source is right there on the XBMC SourceForge CVS...

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Hello,
MediaMVP ReplayTV support is for real. I should know since I'm the developer ;-)
Been working on it for about 3 months now.
I've been holding off on announcing it since it's not quite ready for primetime.
What it does so far is:
-Runs SSDP discovery and discovers all replaytv's & dvarchives on the lan.
-If dvarchive is present it does enough handshaking to kick dvrachive into 5K mode.
-Once devices are discovered it presents a menu of devices to select.
-When a device is selected it pulls down the guide snapshot, parses it,
and displays a list of shows/episodes.
When a show is highlited all the movie/episode details are shown.
Selecting a show starts it playing.
You can presently pause, ffwd, and bring up an onscreen display while playing.

I only own RTV5K's so to work on 4K stuff I kicked dvarchive into 4k mode.
It seems to correctly parse a 4K guide from dvarchive but hasn't been tested with a real 4k
unit. (Anyone want to do some 4K testing?)

Major things missing:
-Parsing the .ndx file, and seeking. I hope to implement 28sec-fwd, 7sec-back, and
jump seek functionality by the end of this month.
-rtvlib functionality and menus to allow deleting a show & resuming play from the
last point viewed.

One last note is that mediamvp requires a dhcp server & tftpserver to boot the load.
Our development/build environment is linux based. I use my linux box to boot the mvp.
I understand there are some free windows based dhcp & tftp servers though for
those without a linux box.

Once I complete "Major things missing" I plan on creating mvpmc replaytv webpage
with configuration details, screen shots, etc... This will probably happen around early
Febuary.

Hopefully some of you will find it useful.
Regards,
John...
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Originally posted by John Honeycutt


I only own RTV5K's so to work on 4K stuff I kicked dvarchive into 4k mode.
It seems to correctly parse a 4K guide from dvarchive but hasn't been tested with a real 4k
unit. (Anyone want to do some 4K testing?)

John Thank you for all of this work. I have two 4000 series, two 4500 series and DVA 3.1 running. I also own the Media MVP and have no use for it. I would like to be able to actually use my MediaMVP and would love to try your beta release and feedback my findings.
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John, your MediaMVP application sounds great! Keep us posted on your progress. Your effort is appreciated.

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I agree. Congrats, John, on the work you've done so far. I may have to grab one of this units from ebay just to check it out.

Great contributions like this make all our Replays worth more!

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Make sure to put a donation link - I know the folks here *cough cough* are not afraid to donate a few bucks for a product / work that is valued. I do see the value in one of these.
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Thanks for the support guys.
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John for your skipping (I don't know how the replay .ndx file works), but if you need help with indexing the file yourself let me know. I might be able to help out. (not that you couldn't but maybe you've got more important fish to fry).

Anyway, I just thought i'd offer up any help if you wanted any.


EDIT: After thinking about this I don't know if there's a way to do it without the .ndx file... I have to look into what the mediamvp project is doing.
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This sounds too good to be true!

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Bump.

Looks like version 0.1.2 has been released.

Anybody with a MVP playing with it?
I'd _love_ to have a thin client or two for <$100 ea.
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Originally posted by plyons10
Wayne and MIS man... I think you guys really MIS the point that the MVP media player is good to go out of the box and is alot cheaper than a mod'd X box for most people.

Frankly, I spend so much time watching TV on my Replays that I don't have time to play video games and I already have all the DVD players I need.

Peter:

With a 14yr old and an 8yr old, a modded XBox w/XBMC is a neccesity. Once you've got one, it's a no brainer to use it as a thin client. The downside is that you actually have to get the kids to agree not to play games while you use it as a DVA client.

Having said that, I am looking forward to trying out John's RTV/MediaMVP. This seems to be a good/cheap solution.

Don't forget to check out the LinkPlayer2 as another good-looking possibility.

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I agree that the hacked Xbox is far more powerful, but for many folks the MVP would be a better solution as it requires no xbox hacking. I have a ton of friends who bought replaytvs after seeing mine, but I don't want to be in the business of hacking xboxes for all of them!

Having a product that requires no hack and and can play streams from replays would be great, esp. if it has commercial skip that XBMC doesn't.

Plus, you would have to add a hack to enable it to be turned on remotely like you do with the Xbox.

Note I have 3 hacked Xbox's in my house, but I support them all... :-)

Thanks,
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After reading this thread I looked around for a MediaMVP and found that RadioShack has them on clearance for $79.99 the store I was in only had one so that's all i got so far.

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Amazon has them for 90 with free shipping.
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Originally posted by quartrj
After reading this thread I looked around for a MediaMVP and found that RadioShack has them on clearance for $79.99 the store I was in only had one so that's all i got so far.

Just a point of reference, I bought a MediaMVP 12months ago for $99
with $50 rebate from Circuit City.
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newegg occasionally has refurbs for around $70 with their usual free/cheap shipping

i bought two, and love them. i will love them even more if they can talk directly to my replays
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This would be a KILLER APP for the average RTV owner if it was ported to Windows and was idiot friendly!!!
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Originally posted by RobPlay
This would be a KILLER APP for the average RTV owner if it was ported to Windows and was idiot friendly!!!



We already have something better than this: DVArchive + RTV-optimized VLC.

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We already have something better than this: DVArchive + RTV-optimized VLC.

This will stream to a MediaMVP?
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Originally posted by RobPlay

This will stream to a MediaMVP?



I'm not sure you understand what this thread is about.

1) The MediaMVP ships with server software that runs on the PC and allows the MVP to play media files stored there.

2) Someone wrote an addon that allowed MediaMVP to stream directly from DVArchive.

3) Someone later wrote an addon that allowed MediaMVP to stream directly from ReplayTVs.

4) If you want to stream from a ReplayTV and/or DVA to a PC, then you can use DVArchive + VLC (or another MPEG-2 streaming capable player).

5) If you want to stream from the PC to RTV, use DVArchive.

Given the above, what exactly do you think would be "killer" if ported to Windows?

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"--killer if ported to Windows"
I'm a real novice at this but it appears you have to compile the mvpmc software on a linux machine. I think RobPlay (and myself) are asking if anyone has compiled a windows exe file?

Thanks for the win32 DVarchive launcher, I like it!

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