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For the most part I just download shows and then watch them locally. If I want to stream from a ReplayTV to my computer using VLC, how do I go about doing it?

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Install DVArchive & have it construct the URL for the particular mpg you wish to view.

This requires telling DVArchive that VLC is your streaming player of choice.

AFAIK Passing the URL of the file to VLC is all that DVArchive does, so strictly speaking DVArchive is not absolutely necessary. But you must know which cryptically named mpg on the RTV is which.


PS installing moyekys (spelling?, correct dude even????) special brand of VLC sauce gets you automatic commerical skipping on the receiveing end (PC).

pss. see his post below.
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Auto commercial skip works in streaming mode (via DVArchive) too if you use my modified version of VLC (see my sig link below).

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What does the URL look like?

For example, the ReplayTV has an IP of 192.168.1.101

The cryptic name is 1139968855.mpg

Both the ReplayTV and the instance of VLC are on the same network subnet etc.

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Install DVArchive & have it construct the URL for the particular mpg you wish to view.

This requires telling DVArchive that VLC is your streaming player of choice.

AFAIK Passing the URL of the file to VLC is all that DVArchive does, so strictly speaking DVArchive is not absolutely necessary. But you must know which cryptically named mpg on the RTV is which.
Actually, DVA does a bit more than that and is (currently) necessary. The URL DVA passes to VLC points to DVA itself. You cannot access video on the ReplayTV with standard HTTP commands. The ReplayTV uses a proprietary httpfs protocol, which is based on HTTP but adds some extra stuff. VLC can't talk httpfs (yet?). DVA can. So, DVA serves as a middleman, accessing the RTV video via httpfs and passing the video on to VLC via HTTP.

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Well there you have it then.

In any case, DVA will display the 'URL' when streaming...somthing like this
http:\\\\<rtvip>:<port#>replayShow.mpg?DVR=YourReplaysName@S howID=########.mpg

Dont quote me on that.
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so... http://192.168.1.101:80 113996855.mpg?DVR=Family Room@ShowID=1139968855.mpg

It doesn't seem to work.



Hrm. Perhaps it would be easier to setup DVA to handle it.

When I try to "Play" from DVA I get the following error.

02/15 18:31:35 ERROR: EXEC:: Error running command /Volumes/vlc-0.8.1/VLC.app -- /Volumes/vlc-0.8.1/VLC.app: cannot execute

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Depending on where you have VLC installed, the command line in DVArchive Properties/Streaming MPEG Video Player should look like:

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"G:\\vlc-0.8.2\\vlc.exe" "%url%"

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Heh Heh. I'm on a Mac. So I chose to browse to VLC. The actual application isn't an exe on my computer, its vlc.app. I presume that the "%url%" is the IP of the Replay I'm trying to stream from.

GAD, usually I'm pretty quick with this stuff. I feel dense.

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Well there you have it then.

In any case, DVA will display the 'URL' when streaming...somthing like this
http:\\\\<rtvip>:<port#>replayShow.mpg?DVR=YourReplaysName@S howID=########.mpg

Dont quote me on that.
<rtvip> is incorrect for sure. That should be <dvaip>, which is why it didn't work Creech. I think the rest is correct, but it has been a while... Again, that is a URL to the DVA server. The ReplayTV itself will not understand that request, and its built-in web server may even crash if you make that request to it.

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Hi j.m.

Except I want to stream from the Replay to my computer...

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Hi j.m.

Except I want to stream from the Replay to my computer...
I understand that completely. To do that, you must still use DVA. It has a video server on port 8042 that acts as the go between for your ReplayTV and PC for the purposes of streaming from the RTV to your PC. That is currently the only way this can happen because you cannot directly access the video stored on the ReplayTV using normal HTTP methods. There is a layer of encryption/authentication that comes into play, and that is why the video goes from ReplayTV to DVA to PC.

The server I mention is completely separate from the DVA server running on port 80 that is used to serve shows stored on your PC to the ReplayTVs.

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Uncle!

Ok, so I have to use DVA to allow streaming from my Replays to my computer via VLC. That brings me back round to how to set up DVA (on OSX) to play through VLC.

My head is starting to hurt.

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Uncle!

Ok, so I have to use DVA to allow streaming from my Replays to my computer via VLC. That brings me back round to how to set up DVA (on OSX) to play through VLC.

My head is starting to hurt.
I am not sure how to do it on OSX. On Windows, you would just put the executable path to VLC in the Steaming Player text box on the General tab at File | DVA Properties. I would think you could do something similar on OSX. DVA would then execute VLC and pass it the appropriate URL when you right-click on a show and play it.

I seem to recall from the DVA forums that there is a helper app for DVA Mac users. I am not sure what it does, but it may help with this if you still have problems.

[Forget about the %url% and batch stuff posted above as it does not pertain to you as a Mac user. Just browse to VLC in the player text box and try that.]

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Ok, so I have to use DVA to allow streaming from my Replays to my computer via VLC. That brings me back round to how to set up DVA (on OSX) to play through VLC.
The problem is that you're browsing to the VLC app in the DVA preferences. For some reason DVA doesn't understand that "VLC" is actually a folder. The path for making VLC the streaming player should like this:
/Applications/VLC-0.8.1-ReplayTV/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/VLC

You can see why this works by right-clicking on the VLC icon and choosing "show package contents"
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Thanks J.M. You got me on the right track and I've figured it out. So, for all those OSX users out there looking to do what I'm doing, the path I used in two boxes under general in DVArchive Properties was:

/Volumes/vlc-0.8.1/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/VLC

No need to use the Helper App.

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And thanks bivalve. I didn't see your post until after I posted again. I appreciate the help.

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Auto commercial skip works in streaming mode (via DVArchive) too if you use my modified version of VLC (see my sig link below).
Hi,

I've been trying to download this version of VLC and it always ends at around 20% into the transfer. The download says its finished, but of course the zip file is corrupt. I've tried from different locatons (via VPN), with the same results.

Any ideas on how to get around this?

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Download seems rather slow from a couple clients I've tried as well. If I get it downloaded I'll PM you a link to try pulling it from my server.
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so... http://192.168.1.101:80 113996855.mpg?DVR=Family Room@ShowID=1139968855.mpg

It doesn't seem to work.
aside from me screwing up the ip, you need the "%20" or whatever it is in the url to do spaces
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Download seems rather slow from a couple clients I've tried as well. If I get it downloaded I'll PM you a link to try pulling it from my server.
Thanks!

Yes, I didn't mention the DL speed which seemed to hover at around 10 KB/sec. I was OK with that, as I was willing to wait however long it took but when it dropped below that, the transfer finished.
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Thanks!

Yes, I didn't mention the DL speed which seemed to hover at around 10 KB/sec. I was OK with that, as I was willing to wait however long it took but when it dropped below that, the transfer finished.
Try this file:

http://www.jkhosting.net/vlc-0.8.2-replaytv-win32.zip

It downloaded fine from this location and unzipped without errors.
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Try this file:

http://www.jkhosting.net/vlc-0.8.2-replaytv-win32.zip

It downloaded fine from this location and unzipped without errors.
Got it. Thanks.
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Thanks again. I'm enjoying hockey from this afternoon on my computer--I was kind of dreading having to wait until my wife went to bed to watch it.

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For some reason DVA doesn't understand that "VLC" is actually a folder.
Actually, talk to your friendly Apple engineers -- the ones who port Java to the Mac platform. DVA uses the standard Java supplied file chooser code -- the actual code varies depending on the platform you use. DVA has no idea about what is a directory and what isn't -- it just pops up the Open file dialog and takes the result.

I suspect the Apple folks thought that end-users shouldn't dig down into the .app directories. That's fine, but then they should have made the exec() function in java accept a .app as the name of an executable. In short, they need to make the exec() function and the open file dialog agree on what is an executable.

If they fix that, then DVA will automatically pick it up.

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I'm just happy it works. :)

Thanks Gerry. I STILL love DVA. It is such a gift.

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