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The next test I want to do is for power cords/cables. I have read great power cords REALLY makes a big difference in PQ and AQ. If so, this $6,899.75 six foot power cord from Audioquest with free shipping will make my soul jump with joy.

Yeah, because that last six feet of $1000/ft wire is somehow going to "fix" something that happily ran over $.10/ft 14/2 romex for the first hundred feet... biggrin.gif

I always thought it would be entertaining to set up a "demo" like that - run a hundred feet of romex from the panel to the room - all out in the open. Attach that romex to an outlet set up in the room (all exposed) and then let folks plug in their "improved" power cords for that last six feet to the components. But then I remembered this is religion, not science, so it wouldn't prove anything... rolleyes.gif

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post #62 of 71 Old 09-22-2013, 09:06 AM - Thread Starter
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Yeah, because that last six feet of $1000/ft wire is somehow going to "fix" something that happily ran over $.10/ft 14/2 romex for the first hundred feet... biggrin.gif

I always thought it would be entertaining to set up a "demo" like that - run a hundred feet of romex from the panel to the room - all out in the open. Attach that romex to an outlet set up in the room (all exposed) and then let folks plug in their "improved" power cords for that last six feet to the components. But then I remembered this is religion, not science, so it wouldn't prove anything... rolleyes.gif

"then I remembered this is religion" Speaking of religion, I think you have stumbled on to something.

The following is a quote from Frederick Robertson who was an English clergy in the early 1800's:

Speaking in one accord: doubt, cramps energy. Belief is power.

I know he was talking about a cord, energy and then goes on to say, "belief is power"

I believe!!

My soul will jump with joy with the new found cord, energy and power.

I'll be ordering Audioquest's $6,899.75 six foot power cord with free shipping today.


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Great cord!
My sons college fund went to good use!
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Great cord!
My sons college fund went to good use!

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Actually audioquest nrg-x3 is a very good cord for 129$...i use them on my sony moniter and oppo 103.
I found the same results as stereophile and what hi-fi found when they tested the cord on a emotive cd player
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last night watching the avengers i was cranking up the sound,and noticed a static sound from my front speakers. i plugged in a fiber optic cable and the sound was much better and no static. i am going to upgrade my hdmi cable asap, i have a ixo hdmi cable hooked up right now. next step is to upgrade to an oppo 103 from a samsung 3d bluray player. i wonder if anyone that has cheep hdmi cables has ever cranked up there system to the point where a better cable really counts.rolleyes.gif

The best I can give you is that you have a ground loop in your system. You probably want to fix the ground loop rather than play with optical cables.

Either that or you fried your voice coils and then with the optical they were already gone.
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Actually audioquest nrg-x3 is a very good cord for 129$...i use them on my sony moniter and oppo 103.
I found the same results as stereophile and what hi-fi found when they tested the cord on a emotive cd player

Results imply a test. What Hi-Fi doesn't actually do testing, they provide opinions based on...well - not sure what the right word is for what they base their opinions on. I know it isn't science.

If you think this is wrong, please provide a reference where they actually used equipment (not human or dog hearing) to test the differences between HDMI cables.

In any event, there is no physics behind your claim of a difference.
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You are correct.
I know what hi-fi does not do proper testing
just a group of 5 guys giving there opinions.
stereophile went a little overboard on there testing of the cord...i will have to see what issue it was in.
my only proof is my own personal conclusion of the power cord...its a very nice well built cord..and i did not notice a big difference on all my gear...but my oppo and sony did have a improvement.
no science involved...just real life interactions.
You should read the article by stereophile.
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You are correct.
I know what hi-fi does not do proper testing
just a group of 5 guys giving there opinions.
stereophile went a little overboard on there testing of the cord...i will have to see what issue it was in.
my only proof is my own personal conclusion of the power cord...its a very nice well built cord..and i did not notice a big difference on all my gear...but my oppo and sony did have a improvement.
no science involved...just real life interactions.
You should read the article by stereophile.

I appreciate the candor in your response.

Let me ask you a question I'm confused about. Given the amount of money you are spending with interconnects, isn't there an upgrade for the same combined price that would buy you more "bang for the buck" than the interconnects? It just seems to me (granted this is my perception) that new wall treatments or new speakers or improved amplifiers or sound shaping can buy more of an improvement than interconnects. I think the biggest improvements I've made recently were a combination of room treatments (knock down the mid-bass region a bit) and Audyssey XT32 Pro. I can quantitatively show the improvements by reviewing frequency response curves and seeing the differences. I can also qualitatively show the improvement by what I hear, which roughly matches the quantitative results (ears aren't as percise).

Just a thought...
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Yes..i do not want to spend money to upgrade gear
What i have now has taken me time to achieve on a family mans dead end job.
i do have parasound halo amps, anthem mrx 300
oppo 103 and paradigm studio 60speakers along with many other gear..dacs..etc
I think the small amount spent on cables is worth the price to get the most out of my gear.
I do have room treatments and ARC..that defenitly
helps the room/sound.
hopefully im done..i do not plan on upgrading while im still here on this planet.
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Yes..i do not want to spend money to upgrade gear
What i have now has taken me time to achieve on a family mans dead end job.
i do have parasound halo amps, anthem mrx 300
oppo 103 and paradigm studio 60speakers along with many other gear..dacs..etc
I think the small amount spent on cables is worth the price to get the most out of my gear.
I do have room treatments and ARC..that defenitly
helps the room/sound.
hopefully im done..i do not plan on upgrading while im still here on this planet.

i do not plan on upgrading while im still here on this planet

Good luck with that. I remember saying that three upgrades ago.



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