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Dish and AMC have settled their lawsuit that has left many subscribers without AMC's The Walking Dead. Starting tonight Dish subscribers will have the channel back. In another separate deal, a new multiyear deal that hopefully will bring back AMC (on channel 131) and all of its other channels (IFC, WE tv, Fuse, etc.) beginning on November 1st of this year.

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DISH Network and Voom Reach Settlement
ENGLEWOOD, CO--(Marketwire - Oct 21, 2012) - DISH Network Corporation (NASDAQ: DISH)

Terms call for DISH to pay $700 million in cash; DISH to receive certain wireless spectrum licenses
DISH enters multi-year agreement to carry AMC, IFC, WE tv, Sundance Channel and Fuse; AMC channel broadcast resumes Sunday, October 21
DISH Network Corporation (NASDAQ: DISH) announced today that its subsidiary, DISH Network L.L.C., has settled all of its pending litigation with Voom HD Holdings LLC.

Terms of the settlement call for DISH Network to pay $700 million in cash. As part of the agreement, DISH will receive 500 MHz of wireless multichannel video distribution and data service ("MVDDS") spectrum licenses that cover a population of 150 million in 45 DMAs including New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco and Philadelphia.

As part of a separate, multi-year agreement, DISH will resume broadcast of the AMC channel Sunday, October 21. The AMC channel will be carried on DISH channel 131.

"We are glad to have settled the case and reestablished our long-term relationships with AMC Networks and Cablevision," said Dave Shull, senior vice president of Programming at DISH. "This multi-year deal delivers a fair value for both parties and includes digital expansion opportunities for AMC Networks' programming."

Other AMC Networks programming, including Sundance Channel, WE tv and IFC, will return to DISH Nov. 1. The Madison Square Garden Company's music-oriented Fuse channel will begin broadcast Nov. 1, as well.

Cablevision and AMC Networks Announce Settlement in VOOM HD Litigation With DISH Network


BETHPAGE, N.Y., October 21, 2012 - Cablevision Systems Corporation (NYSE: CVC) and AMC Networks (NASDAQ: AMCX) today announced that they have settled their litigation with DISH Network LLC (NASDAQ: DISH) related to VOOM HD Holdings LLC. The lawsuit, VOOM HD Holdings LLC v. EchoStar Satellite LLC, was filed in the Supreme Court of the State of New York, County of New York.


The settlement agreements include the following components:


DISH Network pays a cash settlement of $700 million to Cablevision and AMC Networks, $80 million of which is in consideration for the purchase of Cablevision's multichannel video and data distribution service (MVDDS) licenses in 45 metropolitan areas in the U.S.;

DISH Network enters into a long-term distribution agreement with AMC Networks to carry AMC, IFC, Sundance Channel and WE tv, and with The Madison Square Garden Company to carry Fuse on its satellite service; and DISH also conveys its 20-percent membership interest in VOOM HD to Rainbow Programming Holdings LLC, such that all of the cash settlement remains with Cablevision and AMC Networks.


Promptly after payment of the cash settlement is received, the parties will file a joint stipulation to dismiss the lawsuit with prejudice. The allocation of the settlement proceeds between Cablevision and AMC Networks will be determined pursuant to the existing agreement relating to this litigation between the two companies.


Said Josh Sapan, President and CEO, AMC Networks: "We are glad to partner again with DISH Network and are delighted to bring back our popular channels and programming to their customers."

Sounds like good news for DISH subscribers.

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Yay! This is great news. Sounds like I need to set up a DVR event to start recording it again! Thanks for the news!
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I stumbled on to AMC last night! What a surprise and just in time to watch The Walking Dead!

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I think it was kind of crappy that Dish removed AMC. It showed that they don't really care about there customers. It's obvious they did it because of the law suit. I'm glad Dish lost.

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I think it was kind of crappy that Dish removed AMC. It showed that they don't really care about there customers. It's obvious they did it because of the law suit. I'm glad Dish lost.

This seems to happen about once a year (I said "seems," as I have not been keeping track) and has historically been because the TV Channel comglomerate wants more money in order to be carried over Dish/s system. Then the channels get dropped while the negotiations happen. Sort of like the TV channel being greedy and demanding more money from Dish. I don't know what started this whole stink. Maybe they too wanted more money, but we smart and had a legal clause in their contract with Dish that legally preventing Dish from dropping them, but Dish did when rates increased? Then it was a breach of contract and the settlement came out of it. Just pure speculation, but these are almost always the TV channel provider demanding more money from the carrier.

Either way, your statement is true. It is crappy, and Dish is worried about their business (as is Voom) first over the customer. Businesses in general are there to make money first, and serve customers second (or third, or fourth, or last, whatever). No matter what, we still lose. Loss of channels that were in a specified package that customers thought that they would get, and now the big question:

I wonder when our prices will go up to pay off the settlement?
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This seems to happen about once a year (I said "seems," as I have not been keeping track) and has historically been because the TV Channel comglomerate wants more money in order to be carried over Dish/s system. Then the channels get dropped while the negotiations happen. Sort of like the TV channel being greedy and demanding more money from Dish. I don't know what started this whole stink. Maybe they too wanted more money, but we smart and had a legal clause in their contract with Dish that legally preventing Dish from dropping them, but Dish did when rates increased? Then it was a breach of contract and the settlement came out of it. Just pure speculation, but these are almost always the TV channel provider demanding more money from the carrier.
Either way, your statement is true. It is crappy, and Dish is worried about their business (as is Voom) first over the customer. Businesses in general are there to make money first, and serve customers second (or third, or fourth, or last, whatever). No matter what, we still lose. Loss of channels that were in a specified package that customers thought that they would get, and now the big question:
I wonder when our prices will go up to pay off the settlement?

The thing is these channels weren't dropped because of stalled carriage negotiations. There were no negotiations at all. Dish announced that the AMC Network channels were going to be removed six weeks before the contract expired (right after they lost a judgement on destroying evidence, what a coincidence). This was simply a chip for Dish to use in the Voom dispute. So they crapped on their customers a lot more than AMC Networks did.
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The thing is these channels weren't dropped because of stalled carriage negotiations. There were no negotiations at all. Dish announced that the AMC Network channels were going to be removed six weeks before the contract expired (right after they lost a judgement on destroying evidence, what a coincidence). This was simply a chip for Dish to use in the Voom dispute. So they crapped on their customers a lot more than AMC Networks did.

Like I said, my comments were based off of "pure speculation" and "historical" situation and that this seemed different.

We are on the same page here. We get crapped on, and we will probably continue to pay the price (pun intended) to cover this stuff.

When things like this happen, I look at the competitors pretty hard to see if it is time to move on. For my current setup and plan, Dish is still cheaper by $10 a month with any new customer promotions, and about $25 a month after that over DirecTV and a LOT cheaper than my local cable tv company. Outside of these programming issues that happen, I am happy with what they provide for the price.

Maybe after we get the $700 million bill to split, it will be closer to DirecTV pricing. I hope not.
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AMC back on our DISH...got the following message on MON:

DISH is pleased to announce that we have reached a multi-year agreement with AMC Networks, which has restored AMC on channel 131.
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Like I said, my comments were based off of "pure speculation" and "historical" situation and that this seemed different.
We are on the same page here. We get crapped on, and we will probably continue to pay the price (pun intended) to cover this stuff.
When things like this happen, I look at the competitors pretty hard to see if it is time to move on. For my current setup and plan, Dish is still cheaper by $10 a month with any new customer promotions, and about $25 a month after that over DirecTV and a LOT cheaper than my local cable tv company. Outside of these programming issues that happen, I am happy with what they provide for the price.
Maybe after we get the $700 million bill to split, it will be closer to DirecTV pricing. I hope not.

The same situation for us. The Dish package we have works out great for us and the pricing is good. That's why we didn't switch providers after AMC was dropped. Prices will be going up this coming February. Hopefully they don't go up to DirectTV rates.
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Like I said, my comments were based off of "pure speculation" and "historical" situation and that this seemed different.
We are on the same page here. We get crapped on, and we will probably continue to pay the price (pun intended) to cover this stuff.
When things like this happen, I look at the competitors pretty hard to see if it is time to move on. For my current setup and plan, Dish is still cheaper by $10 a month with any new customer promotions, and about $25 a month after that over DirecTV and a LOT cheaper than my local cable tv company. Outside of these programming issues that happen, I am happy with what they provide for the price.
Maybe after we get the $700 million bill to split, it will be closer to DirecTV pricing. I hope not.

I have been with dish since 2002 and when I moved to Ohio, I tried Time Warner. Boy, did I screw up and I quickly learned my lesson. We are happy with Dish too!

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