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Well, never mind, as I just got mine yesterday it is a 4K remastering though and what a fantastic restoring/remastering job they've done; just incredible!!

If you want to see a fanatastic picture, get the 8K remastered Cleopatra amd see how much it looks like 3D without the glasses.
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Thanks for the tip Dave & HD, but I do have the "standard" Cleopatra BD already, which is also top notch, no doubt.
Didn't know they've remastered Cleo to 8K now though...

Where the hell this "remastering fever" will end up, btw?? wink.gif

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If it is an improvement that brings the viewer closer to the original film's quality then sure. Top Gun 3D was great and a clear improvement over the previous version. So were the discs in the Alien Anthology Blu-ray release. Buying something again is just a choice, people can keep their old copy and re-watch that, too. If the new version is better then some folks who appreciate watching their favorite films in the best possible quality presentation will find value in a re-release.

I agree for a few discs as long as it is a real improvement in sound and pictures and not some Marketing BS

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No, the marketing part is BS...because what makes it look better is NOT the 4K but the high bitrate and better master.

At least the results are very real smile.gif

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My frustration would be the "rerelease" ie... the double dip. They should just release the higher bit rate Bluray in the first place from here on in!
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Originally Posted by AVTrauma View PostMy frustration would be the "rerelease" ie... the double dip. They should just release the higher bit rate Bluray in the first place from here on in!

That's what they do! That's why I replaced only DVDs to BluRay when the BluRay drops down to $5 :)


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Don't forget though that the earlier generations of BD player can't handle anything higher than 35 Mbps. Some of these discs have bitrates upwards to 46 Mbps. So even if they want to, they can't. The Amazing SpiderMan, for example, won't play on my Pioneer Elite BDP-HD1 due to the extremely high bitrate.

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Hey Dave,

didn't know about that! Would you mind elaborating a bit more on this?? I do have 2 BDP's, being a Panny BD-30 and an Oppo BD-80, and if I got your point, probably none will play these extremely high bitrate BD's??

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There is a chance that they won't play certain titles. Older players only reads at 1x, so the max bitrate is 35 Mbps, but newer players use 2x (or higher) readers with max bitrate upwards to 50 Mbps.

I'm sure you're safe with Total Recall, Spiderman and Ghostbuster (both max bitrate at 34.8 Mbps) but may have problem with Amazing Spiderman and Karate Kid (often times jumps around 40+ Mbps)

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Thanks a bunch Dave; contents duly noted !
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Maybe the distinction isn't necessary, but David is talking about *average*, or total bitrate.

The Blu-Ray spec allows for:

Max video bitrate: 40 Mbit/s
Max total bitrate: 50 Mbit/s
Max data transfer rate: 54 Mbit/s

Lots of BDs will spike over 50 Mbit/s. BD standalones have to buffer the data.
Below is how Master and Commander looks in BitrateViewer. Not a very high average bitrate (under 28), but look at peak bitrate:

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Remember when wb first entered the bd scene with vc1 masters from hd dvd sources? Vc1 has a lower bitrate than avc...universal still uses vc1 sometimes.
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Well, never mind, as I just got mine yesterday it is a 4K remastering though and what a fantastic restoring/remastering job they've done; just incredible!!

If you want to see a fanatastic picture, get the 8K remastered Cleopatra amd see how much it looks like 3D without the glasses.
Which one is 8K?
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Which one is 8K?

The brand new Cleopatra blu ray. It costs $14.99.
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Ill get it on amazon.com. ben hur was restored at 8k too and looks great on my 42 inch Vizio despite the wide scope. When 4k becomes the next 1080p for home 8k will be in cinemas.
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Native 4k is already very nice, once projectors are under $5K then I am up for it!

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