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Netflix announced yesterday it will be rolling out SuperHD and 3D movies. This will only be offered to specific Internet Service Providers as well as specific devices capable of receiving SuperHD content.

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Called Super HD by Netflix, the ability to stream content in 1080p is limited to a consumer’s Internet Provider. By visiting the launch page, consumers will be able to immediately see if their ISP is part of the Open Connect group. In order to stream 1080p content, the software requires a minimum Internet connection speed of at least 5Mb/s. Netflix representatives recommends 7Mb/s for the highest quality version of the 1080p high definition content.

Devices supported for Netflix SuperHD include Playstation 3, Nintendo Wii U, Roku XD and XS, the lastest version of AppleTV and Windows 8.

Smart televisions and Blu-ray players with 1080p Netflix support will work with the Super HD program as well.

How do you know which movie is SuperHD?
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In order to locate content that’s available in the Super HD format, Netflix subscribers need to look for the Super HD logo on the movie or television content description page. There is no additional fee required to enroll in the Super HD program.

What about 3D?
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Regarding 3D titles, Netflix has made a variety of documentaries available to stream in 3D as well as Immortals starring Man of Steel’s Henry Cavill as well as Mickey Rourke.

According to Netflix, they will be monitoring the amount of people streaming 3D content and only then will decide to expand their 3D collection further.


Netflix has certainly addressed an issue that many have been waiting for, higher resolution. This in turn will require more bandwidth by the users, will this attract late adopters and satisfy current subscribers?




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For all Canadian subscribers, we are not going to see this happen for a while. This is for U.S. Subscribers only....at this time.

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And they still think 7 Mbps is adequate for quality 1080p??? And streaming is the future of UHD content with no physical media disc?? They must be smoking some great stuff around the offices of Netflix and Sony!

I have 25 Mbps (with spikes on good days of 37 Mbps) from Concast (again, the "n" is intentional) and regular HD Netflix content sometimes drops down to high SD or fluctuates.
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Has anyone tried this? I need to check out the list of ISPs. Hoping Comcast is among them.

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I was trying to find a list and couldn't find one. If you go to the superhd launch page it will tell you if it's available to you... https://signup.netflix.com/superhd
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Has anyone tried this? I need to check out the list of ISPs. Hoping Comcast is among them.

Comcast is not among them I checked right after the CED 2013 announcement, I know I wanted it sooooo bad!

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It'd be nice if Verizon FIOS jumped into this. I'm sitting on a 50/25 FIOS line and get every bit and then some with any speed test I run. This would be a welcome improvement in Netflix streaming.
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So what is the real story here? A model a la ESPN3 where they are going to try to extract money out of my rural ISP to offer this?

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WOOT! My isp "Surewest" is on the list.. Thanks for the thread op...I did not know about this...

Here is the Netflix site that checks if your ISP is compatible and supported for the super HD roll out


http://support.netflix.com/en/node/8731#gsc.tab=0
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Expect Concast to play nice with Netflix when pigs fly... or when there is a court order. Netflix is in direct competition. Concast actually throttles data coming from Netflix servers. There has been a big stink about net neutrality and streaming services vs. ISP's for some time.

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couldn't they just allow for buffering?
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I tried netflix super hd and 3d two days ago. Really impressive and I have only 4mbps. 3d looks very very good. And I tried a couple of movies and are pretty awesome. Lots better than those claim as "hd".

I believed I mentioned this 2 days agod and most people replied me "what are u talking about?". Maybe I was one of the first netflix customers with super hd and 3d enabled. Immortal movie still having issues when played at 3d. On 2d works great.
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So what is the real story here? A model a la ESPN3 where they are going to try to extract money out of my rural ISP to offer this?

I believe Netflix simply mails the ISP the server for free. Network connectivity is the ISP's issue. This actually gives the ISP a little advantage as they can put the server on there local network instead of using the "internet". This saves Netflix a lot of money b/c they don't pay for bandwidth, just the server/content. I can't imagine any ISP that has there own content will do this(time warner, comcast etc.).
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Great! Super Duper Extra HD stream and nothing to watch. Way to go Netflix. rolleyes.gif

I'll pay for good movies from Vudu in HDX, which BTW is really, really good video quality.

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Netflix is terrible, it reminds me of when I was younger going to the Rx Place to rent "new" movies. They would sucker you in with a new title and when you were there searching through everything it was all old stuff you've already seen elsewhere. I would be nice if they offered atleast full trilogies of movies, like all three Transformer movies. Such a waste of money, IMO. I'm curious though, what is "Super" HD if it's still 1080p?
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I love the Vudu xdHD via my Samsung bluray player smarthub....very happy to test drive Netflix.

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I tried netflix super hd and 3d two days ago. Really impressive and I have only 4mbps. 3d looks very very good. And I tried a couple of movies and are pretty awesome. Lots better than those claim as "hd".

I believed I mentioned this 2 days agod and most people replied me "what are u talking about?". Maybe I was one of the first netflix customers with super hd and 3d enabled. Immortal movie still having issues when played at 3d. On 2d works great.

Where the heck did you find the content at? I looked all over my Netflix HD page and see no super HD or 3d content
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Where the heck did you find the content at? I looked all over my Netflix HD page and see no super HD or 3d content

You only see the super HD tag against titles if you're client supports it and you're ISP is one of the supported ones identified by netflix.
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Has anyone tried this? I need to check out the list of ISPs. Hoping Comcast is among them.

Yes. I've being using it for about a week. Super hd content is streamed at 5800kb/s and doesn't look that different from the older highest stream than ran prior to this announcement.
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Won't do any good with poor content thou..

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Im still waiting for better audio ~_~

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Yeah I'd be more excited if we got better audio. Heck I'd take full bitrate lossy dts at this point.
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Charter doesn't want to play along apparently, which blows because my 100mb connection would do nicely with this. I won't even bother calling to ask them about it because I know they'll just throw scripted answers at me, or not even know what I'm asking.

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I've got U-Verse internet (AT&T) with 12 Mbps download speeds, but Super Duper HD isn't supported by them, and I don't believe they will be supporting it anytime soon. I don't really care much for Netflix or Hulu for that matter. I cancelled my DirecTV, and my kids (7 and 4 yrs old) like Netflix because they can use their iPads to watch stuff, and my wife likes Hulu.

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Yeah I'd be more excited if we got better audio. Heck I'd take full bitrate lossy dts at this point.

Don't count on it.

Why waste the bits on a 1536kbps signa when DD/DD+ @640kbps has equal performance anyway?

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Wonder why Comcast isn't on board. My connection is plenty robust enough and I own multiple devices that qualify. I'd be interested in the 3D offerings. They are so much more expensive than regular BD and there are so few.

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Given my own past experiences with Comcast I'd bet my last dollar, despite any claims to the contrary on their part, they're dinging the traffic to Netflix and other such providers. My switch to Verizon FIOS ended all such problems even though I was trying to save money and go with one of their packages with a lower reported speed (15/5) than what Comcast was claiming to offer. My brother had a similar experience with his Amazon streaming service and switching back and forth between Comcast and Verizon.
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For all Canadian subscribers, we are not going to see this happen for a while. This is for U.S. Subscribers only....at this time.

I'm using Telus Optik in Edmonton. When I go to the page, it says--

"Your Internet Provider is part of the Open Connect network, a free partnership with Netflix. Netflix will automatically play movies and TV shows in Super HD on a supported device if your connection is fast enough."

I assume this means it's working in Canada.
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Needs Blu-Ray level-audio, then I'm interested.
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