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Hi Vinny:

In the picture above, is the receiver powered up while someone is connecting speakers to the back of the receiver?

Too funny, I did not realize that...True that. Big mistake...lol tongue.gif

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Hi all, I was looking at the new receivers (AVR-E200, AVR-E300, AVR-E400) and their "counterparts" from previous models (AVR-1513, AVR-1613, AVR-1913). I have been reading forums and reviews all day trying to find if there is a specific advantage of the newer E series. For one, I use BlackBerry, so the remote control app is of no interest to me. I can also set up receiver and speakers and don't need the marketed "easy" setup or colour coded ports on the back.

I was looking at AVR-E300, but now that somebody pointed out the AVR-1913 is the same price, but an upper model, should I even consider the E series anymore? Are there any lacking features in the 1xxx line (like audio decoding, 3D, etc) that are newly available in the E line? I mean, given the price is the same, is there any reason why I should get AVR-E300 over the AVR-1913? I prefer more features and the 7.1.

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Your absolutely right bgalakazam, you are better off going with the AVR-1913. But just to be fair, you have to compare apples with apples. The E300 is not the comparable to the AVR-1913. You would need to look at the E400. Both the E400 and AVR-1913 have roughly the same power, 7.1ch and same HDMI inputs. As Myoda mentioned above, the new E series has those push-in speaker connectors which aren't popular among enthusiasts. The E400 also offers 4K upscalling for future-proofing your system. That is something to think about as it is becoming increasingly popular.

It's not an easy choice. I used to changer AVRs like I changed my underwear. It was bad. If the AVR-1913 is a good deal and you think you can maybe resell it down the line, go for it. I personally am not a big fan of the stripped down new units. The AVR-1913 is still stripped down compared to a 3 year old Denon I still have, but a lot less than the new E series.

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Hi all, I was looking at the new receivers (AVR-E200, AVR-E300, AVR-E400) and their "counterparts" from previous models (AVR-1513, AVR-1613, AVR-1913). ...

I was looking at AVR-E300, but now that somebody pointed out the AVR-1913 is the same price, but an upper model, should I even consider the E series anymore? Are there any lacking features in the 1xxx line (like audio decoding, 3D, etc) that are newly available in the E line? I mean, given the price is the same, is there any reason why I should get AVR-E300 over the AVR-1913? I prefer more features and the 7.1.

Cheers.

The AVR-E300 adds support for Apple Lossless (ALAC) and Spotify. (It's possible that these are just the result of a firmware update that occurred over the past year. I'm not sure.) It also adds AM radio.

The first thing I'd ask is whether you want 5.1 or 7.1 audio. The AVR-E300 is 5.1, while the AVR-1913 is 7.1. If you want 7.1 audio, then go with the AVR-1913. If you want 5.1 audio, I think you'd probably be better off with the AVR-1713 (which is also on sale because it's being replaced) than with the AVR-E300.

If you just want 5.1 audio, then it's a bit of a tossup between the AVR-1713 for $369 and the AVR-1913 for $399. The AVR-1713 has better room correction software (Audyssey MultEQ XT vs. Audyssey MultEQ) but the AVR-1913 has more power (90 watts vs 80 watts).

By the way, the replacement for the AVR-1713 just came out. It's called the AVR-X1000 and is now part of Denon's higher-end line of "In Command" receivers. Changes from the AVR-1713 include a longer warranty, Spotify, support for Apple Lossless (ALAC), AM radio, and the addition of a cool-looking second dial on the left-hand side to select the input source.

Personally, I'm leaning toward buying the new AVR-X1000.
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Less than two weeks ago I purchased an AVR-1913 at Frys for $304. (It replaced a Okkyo TX-SR604 that on occasion would switch off when changed from a 720p channel to a 1080i channel using ATT Uverse). Today frys is selling the the AVR-E400 for $299. To me the only difference the the 4K TV. Other than that it seem the 1913 has more features, plus I banana plug everything. I don't plan on purchasing a 4K TV anytime soon. Has anyone had any experience with both receivers?
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I just grabbed an E400 at Frys after my Onkyo 616's network functions failed. I agree the whole AVR market is an embarrassment considering innovation that's been seen in other markets but compared to my past receivers it's pretty great. I wouldn't want to spend $600 for this but at $300 it's a hell of a deal.

Except for the speaker connections. I use banana plugs and I thought I had a defective unit: my banana connectors were shorting against the RCA connectors on the left side of myoda's photo above. Power on, amp relay clicks, speakers pop, amp shuts down. Unbelievably stupid panel layout.

Also, to answer Myoda's question, it does indeed tell you to connect speakers while it's powered up. But when it enters and leaves this guided mode you can hear relays popping in the AVR. It's shutting down the amplifiers during this process.
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X-2000 is currently winging it's way to me via Paul's TV, who are currently offering 15% off on the unit with coupon code REC15. $551 to my door (even though I'm in California... NO clue how they're avoiding charging sales tax on this, but I'm not gonna complain)

spblat, how in the holy hand grenade of antioch did you get an E400 from Frys for half price!?!?! Showing as $599 on their site. If I'd known that the E400 could have been had for that price, probably would have gone that route.
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spblat, how in the holy hand grenade of antioch did you get an E400 from Frys for half price!?!?! Showing as $599 on their site. If I'd known that the E400 could have been had for that price, probably would have gone that route.

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Wow, good spot. Quite literally a deal you can't pass up. (Apart from me, since I ordered the X-2000 yesterday for over $200 more!)
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A week ago I purchased a AVR 1913 on sale in BB Vancouver for $250. At that price I could not resist. It was their last unit and I have a sneaking suspicion the price was mislabelled. Anyway its a great unit. Was originally shopping for a E400 but, since all my wires are banana plugged I am averse to stripping the wires. Plus the price is $599.
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If a $200 difference in price is not a deal breaker, is there enough prevailing reasons to but a AVR 3313 CI over a E400. I don't need anything with component audio, but I do like banana plugs - but could go back to pin plugs.
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I don't know about the AVR 3313 CI. But with the E400 banana plugs are fine except for the front right connection, where there's a collision with the RCA audio inputs. The rest are fine. Slightly awkward to insert them at a 90 degree angle but no big deal. I'm thrilled with my E400 after 2 weeks.
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Thanks for the tip on the E400 for $299 from Fry's. Was trying to decide between the 1613 or a refurbished 1913 and this made my decision easy.
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I don't know about the AVR 3313 CI. But with the E400 banana plugs are fine except for the front right connection, where there's a collision with the RCA audio inputs. The rest are fine. Slightly awkward to insert them at a 90 degree angle but no big deal. I'm thrilled with my E400 after 2 weeks.

Note the E series speaker posts are NOT designed for using banana plugs, rather you would only use them on the X series.

Also note there is a dedicated thread for new Denon AVR-XX13 owners linked in my sig. Review posts 1-6 in that thread for more helpful information.

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