Samsung 2013 HDTV and UHDTV Features, Availability, and Pricing - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 13 Old 03-22-2013, 02:23 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Writer @ AVS
 
imagic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 5,156
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 606 Post(s)
Liked: 1654

Samsung certainly knows how to put on a line show, with celebrities and plenty of well-informed reps at NYC's Museum of American Finance showing off shiny new gear. With the announcement of its 2013 HDTV lineup, Samsung touted a number of novel new features and provided information on prices and availability.

 

The stage is set at the Museum of American Finance - Photo ©2013 by Mark Henninger

 

First up was Samsung's Smart Evolution Kit, literally the brains behind their latest premium flat panels. The Evolution Kit is a swappable module that updates Samsung TV sets to the latest features. Samsung is guaranteeing four years of upgradeability for their premium HDTV and UHDTV panels, with a new Evolution Kit released on an annual basis. The kit carries an MSRP of $299 and is available to upgrade Samsung's compatible 2012 models.

 

Samsung's Smart Evolution Kit is a $299 upgrade - Photo ©2013 by Mark Henninger

 

Smart Evolution keeps Samsung's premium sets up to date with the latest technologies, including the ability to use natural language and casual hand gestures to control TV functions. The new TVs also anticipate viewer's habits thanks to an industry-first "S-Recommendation" function—Smart TV can learn a viewer's habits and help make more relevant entertainment suggestions. 

 

This TV is so smart, it knows what Kate Upton wants to watch  - Photo ©2013 by Mark Henninger

 

The most impressive TV at the show was the 84" S9 UHDTV. Featuring full-array LED backlighting with local dimming and ultrahigh-definition resolution (3840x2160), the image quality was exceptional—4K footage looked positively stunning. I am no longer on the fence about whether the difference between 1080p and 4K video is noticeable from a "normal viewing distance." Standing 12 feet away from the 84" UHDTV, the added detail was obvious. With an aspirational MSRP of $39,995, it performs exactly as a flagship product should. For the videophile with a truly unlimited budget, a 110" version will be available in the second half of 2013.

 

The S9 UHDTV panel, suspended in its easel-like stand  - Photo ©2013 by Mark Henninger

 

Perhaps the best thing about the S9 is what it shares with the other, more affordable TVs on display—forward compatibility. Despite its bleeding-edge specs, the S9 also uses the Smart Evolution Kit. The S9 will enjoy four years of forward compatibility to help account for changes in HDMI, Wi-Fi, frame rates, codecs, and Smart TV features—a crucial bit of insurance, considering the fact that UHDTV standards have yet to be established.

 

The rest of Samsung's lineup was not as extravagant as the S9, but there was plenty to see. The most interesting HDTV panel was the F8500 plasma, a television that establishes a new benchmark for deep black reproduction. To prove it, Samsung set up a demo to compare black levels. A pair of HDTVs, purportedly the best plasma and best LCD the competition has to offer at the F8500's price point, flanked a 64" unit. It was clear that the competing plasma was a Panasonic Viera and the LCD was a Sharp Aquos. For one thing, electrical tape may have hidden the actual make and model numbers, but they forgot to cover the logo on the Sharp. Granted, the comparison was Samsung's, but the difference between the panels was clear and obvious; the F8500 had the deepest blacks. One major caveat—the  competitive HDTVs were almost certainly not 2013 models. Also, it would have been nice to see how Samsung's 2012 plasmas compared.

 

An F8500 plasma HDTV, with a competitor's LCD on the right - Photo ©2013 by Mark Henninger

 

The bread and butter of Samsung's HDTV business is its LCD panels, which debuted at CES 2013. On hand at the NYC event were the top-of-the line F8000 series as well as the more affordable F7500 series. In terms of image quality, the F8500 plasma and S9 UHDTV upstaged the LCD HDTV models, but there was still plenty of feature talk and some nice-looking displays. Samsung's LED-LCD TVs use edge-lighting and pseudo "local dimming," a combination known to produce uneven screen illumination and flashlighting.  These effects were minimal to nonexistent on the edge-lit sets I looked at. The company also claims that all of the new LED HDTVs feature brighter colors than ever.

 

The latest LED Smart TVs are feature-rich, thin and attractive - Photo ©2013 by Mark Henninger

 

The feature that Samsung seemed most interested in promoting is human interaction with Smart TV sets. To make its point, the company hired Eli Manning, Flo Rida, and Kate Upton to show off the fluid interactions made possible by Smart TV. The latest Samsung HDTVs recognize natural language—for example, "Show me comedies playing at 8 p.m." or "When does the Phillies/Mets game start?". The new TV sets also recognize casual hand movements for menu navigation, like swiping your hand to change screens.

 

Using a smart TV is a lot easier than winning a Super Bowl - Photo ©2013 by Mark Henninger

 

Samsung packed its latest premium HDTVs with features and delivered on its promise of a modular, annual upgrade in the form of the Smart Evolution Kit. They also managed to raise the bar on image quality in the plasma category and show off a next-generation 4K panel. It is exactly what you would expect from the market leader in HDTV flat panels.

 

 

 

     Samsung 2013 LED-LCD HDTV Pricing and Availability

 

Series

Size Class (inches)

Estimated Selling Price

2013 Availability

(est.)

F8000

75

$7999

May

F8000

65

$3499

April

F8000

60

$2999

April

F8000

55

$2699

March

F8000

46

$2199

March

F7500

60

$2699

April

F7500

55

$2399

March

F7500

46

$1899

March

F7100

75

$5999

May

F7100

65

$2899

April

F7100

60

$2399

March

F7100

55

$2099

March

F7100

46

$1599

March

F6400

75

$4999

April

F6400

65

$2499

April

F6400

60

$1899

April

F6400

55

$1699

March

F6400

50

$1399

April

F6400

46

$1199

March

F6400

40

$949

March

F6300

65

$2299

March

F6300

60

$1699

March

F6300

55

$1599

March

F6300

50

$1299

April

F6300

46

$1099

March

F6300

40

$849

March

F6300

32

$699

March

F5500

50

$999

April

F5500

46

$829

March

F5500

40

$629

March

F5500

32

$479

March

F5000

50

$899

March

F5000

46

$749

Available Now

F5000

40

$549

Available Now

F5000

32

$399

Available Now

F5000

22

$229

April

F4000

29

$299

April

F4000

19

$179

March

FH6030

55

$1,099

March

FH6030

46

$849

May

FH6030

40

$649

May

 

 

 

 

 

              Samsung 2013 Plasma HDTV Pricing and Availability

 

Series/Model

Size Class (inches)

Estimated Selling Price

2013 Availability

(Est.)

F8500

64

$3699

Late March

F8500

60

$3199

Late March

F8500

51

$2199

Late March

F5500

64

$2099

April

F5500

60

$1199

April

F5500

51

$849

April

F5300

64

$1499

Available Now

F5300

60

$949

Available Now

F5300

51

$649

Available Now

F4500

51

$549

Available Now

F4500

43

$399

Available Now


Find out more about Mark Henninger at www.imagicdigital.com
imagic is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 13 Old 03-22-2013, 06:57 PM
Senior Member
 
Lethean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Posts: 332
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked: 28
Interesting...

What I'm still curious about however is 4K at sizes less than 84 inches.

I feel that the pricing makes sense on most products save for a 4K price jump between the 65 and 75 inch LEDs.

The 299$ price tag on the upgrade feature is reasonable and for most consumers buying the larger sizes it's pretty affordable given what they can already spare in their budget. I'll be interested to see if other companies follow suit with some thing like that.

Lethean is offline  
post #3 of 13 Old 03-23-2013, 04:42 AM - Thread Starter
Senior Writer @ AVS
 
imagic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 5,156
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 606 Post(s)
Liked: 1654
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lethean View Post

Interesting...

What I'm still curious about however is 4K at sizes less than 84 inches.

I feel that the pricing makes sense on most products save for a 4K price jump between the 65 and 75 inch LEDs.

The 299$ price tag on the upgrade feature is reasonable and for most consumers buying the larger sizes it's pretty affordable given what they can already spare in their budget. I'll be interested to see if other companies follow suit with some thing like that.

I asked about that, a Samsung rep told me 84" is the smallest 4K UHDTV they plan to offer in the U.S. for 2013.

Find out more about Mark Henninger at www.imagicdigital.com
imagic is offline  
post #4 of 13 Old 03-23-2013, 10:39 AM
Advanced Member
 
Flavius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 823
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 46
Where the hell are the OLED sets?!
Flavius is offline  
post #5 of 13 Old 03-23-2013, 12:13 PM
Member
 
xjyamaha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 40
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
I find that easel stand that the UHD has incredibly unattractive, but considering i'll never buy a $40k TV I guess my opinion probably holds little value.
xjyamaha is offline  
post #6 of 13 Old 03-23-2013, 01:50 PM
Senior Member
 
Lethean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Posts: 332
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by imagic View Post

I asked about that, a Samsung rep told me 84" is the smallest 4K UHDTV they plan to offer in the U.S. for 2013.

If we go with a T.V over a projector in our next upgrade that makes me more confident in getting a 1080p set then as we won't buy an 84 inch given the price point of 80+ tvs that aren't 4k. If they won't release anything lower than 84 in 4K that likely means they saw little improvement to warrant the sales price.

Lethean is offline  
post #7 of 13 Old 03-23-2013, 04:30 PM
Senior Member
 
PlexMulti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 289
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lethean View Post

If we go with a T.V over a projector in our next upgrade that makes me more confident in getting a 1080p set then as we won't buy an 84 inch given the price point of 80+ tvs that aren't 4k. If they won't release anything lower than 84 in 4K that likely means they saw little improvement to warrant the sales price.

Other manufacturers have 4K sets that are way way lower price points and offer smaller sizes.

I've seen the Toshiba sets and those were incredible.

Model/Size/MSRP

- 84L9300U/84"/$19,999

- 65L9300U/65"/$9,999

- 58L9300U/58"/$6,9999
PlexMulti is offline  
post #8 of 13 Old 03-23-2013, 06:27 PM
Senior Member
 
Phrehdd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 454
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 93
I applaud Samsung for the little smart box. It is about time makers stop forcing people to retire entire units just for a few more bells and whistles or newer advancements in apps etc.

Other makers of TVs, AVRs, computers (are you listening Apple) would be wise to follow suit and go with this type of modularity. Better to spend 300 to upgrade than for an entire TV or other component to get some additional features.

Again kudos to Samsung though I will be staying with my Panasonic VT50 65" for a few more years.
Phrehdd is online now  
post #9 of 13 Old 03-23-2013, 06:29 PM
Member
 
Toymachyne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 121
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 21
3 years these 4k sets will be $3k. Like everything else early adopters will pay through the nose.
Toymachyne is offline  
post #10 of 13 Old 03-23-2013, 07:12 PM
Senior Member
 
PlexMulti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 289
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toymachyne View Post

3 years these 4k sets will be $3k. Like everything else early adopters will pay through the nose.

In 3 years they'll be on to 8K tvs - JVC already has an 8K projector in production. If you're waiting for the next-big-thing in electronics (especially video) you'll always be waiting. I agree, though, that early adoption stuff is definitely NOT a "value", nor are manufacturers even concerned with offering new tech to people who's wallets are price conscious. These press releases are certainly fun, however.
PlexMulti is offline  
post #11 of 13 Old 03-24-2013, 08:15 AM
Senior Member
 
elmerfudII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 213
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phrehdd View Post

I applaud Samsung for the little smart box. It is about time makers stop forcing people to retire entire units just for a few more bells and whistles or newer advancements in apps etc.

Other makers of TVs, AVRs, computers (are you listening Apple) would be wise to follow suit and go with this type of modularity. Better to spend 300 to upgrade than for an entire TV or other component to get some additional features.

I agree ! Well said and its about time that manufacturers did this. Now if only they would do it with AV receivers.
elmerfudII is offline  
post #12 of 13 Old 03-24-2013, 05:13 PM
Member
 
kerednai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 118
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
The jump to the 75" is insane. Are they only saying this price to keep the75es8000 price high in the mean time? At that price itd the 65" or a 70" Sharp for me.
kerednai is offline  
post #13 of 13 Old 03-25-2013, 05:35 AM
AVS Special Member
 
KidHorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Derwood, Maryland
Posts: 2,752
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 96 Post(s)
Liked: 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by xjyamaha View Post

I find that easel stand that the UHD has incredibly unattractive, but considering i'll never buy a $40k TV I guess my opinion probably holds little value.

I don't like it either, but most people will wall mount it. My guess is they wanted to present the TV like it was an art piece.
KidHorn is offline  
Reply Latest Industry News

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off