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Just a few days ago at the big IFA (Internationale Funkausstellung) consumer-electronics show in Berlin, Germany, LG introduced the largest UHD OLED display in the world. The 77" beast is a prototype, but it clearly indicates that OLED's future will include larger screens and higher resolutions. The company stated that it intends to make UHD and OLED technologies mainstream in 2014, including Ultra-HD OLED panels.


LG's new 77" UHD OLED TV - source: ubergizmo

LG described a path to UHD OLED ubiquity that relies on lower prices and greater availability. Based on many comments in numerous AVS threads, second-generation OLED sporting HDMI 2.0 and UHD resolution counts as a dream TV—the TV of the future. About the only barriers to adoption among videophiles will be screen size and price. If LG is serious about its plan to take on Samsung and become top dog in the UHDTV business, one can only hope the competition between the two television behemoths winds up benefiting consumers.
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"LG has announced plans to accelerate the launch of Ultra HD and OLED televisions in 2014, and that 50 different countries will be able to purchase both the company’s premium and economy versions of its hardware." - source: ubergizmo

At 77" the added resolution offered by UHD is quite visible from normal viewing distances. Even the curved screen starts to make sense at larger sizes. UHD content definitely demands a big screen, and it finally looks like OLED will deliver in that department. Exactly when it will deliver, that's anyone's guess—but at least there is a real-world prototype that proves OLED can scale up to LCD TV sizes. All that remains to be seen is whether OLED can also drop down to LCD prices.

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If "everywhere" doesn't work out for them, I certainly hope they settle for "somewhere". Somewhere flat, that is.
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I'm waiting for the 92" (non-curved) for $4999 and I'm all-in. Say goodbye to my projector for ever wink.gif

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I'm waiting for the 92" (non-curved) for $4999 and I'm all-in. Say goodbye to my projector for ever wink.gif


Here, you can go back to 2010 and get the 100" OLED they should be selling any day now.

http://www.displaysearchblog.com/2010/09/first-oled-display-over-100/
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As someone who really watches this stuff and worked in sales for high end audio video gear for many years. I really think CES will be loaded with lower cost 4K/UHD next Jan...

Yea, a 65"-70" would be ideal for me...

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As someone who really watches this stuff and worked in sales for high end audio video gear for many years. I really think CES will be loaded with lower cost 4K/UHD next Jan...

Yea, a 65"-70" would be ideal for me...

I agree, I will probably venture to say that we may even see a few 60"-70" UHD OLED's in the $4500-$8000 range at the next CES.

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Ultra-HD OLED isn't good enough...I'm waiting for the Ultra-Mega-Extreme-SuperDelux-ES99901432 monitor.
The resolution is so detailed it's like watching an X-Ray machine!
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I don't want low cost UHD or cheap OLED. I want GOOD TV's so I don't have to mourn the death of plasma...

hopefully the combo of OLED and UHD leads to a suitable replacement and new 'reference' quality of display.

as for the monster sizes, unless they figure out a way to roll up an OLED screen, there's no way it'll replace my projector. i'm not building my house around a tv, or knocking out a wall to install one rolleyes.gif

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as for the monster sizes, unless they figure out a way to roll up an OLED screen, there's no way it'll replace my projector. i'm not building my house around a tv, or knocking out a wall to install one rolleyes.gif

Good point. You will need to measure if the TV can get in your house. i.e. a walk-out basement, large entrance foyer, etc.
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I hope things work out for LG, but I'm not holding my breath. OLED seems to deliver a lot more promises than actual TVs.
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I really hope my 65" Panny plasma won't die before a bigger OLED replacement at a reasonable price becomes available...
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I'm waiting for the 92" (non-curved) for $4999 and I'm all-in. Say goodbye to my projector for ever wink.gif

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the race between large cheap OLED's and LED/laser projectors with great picture quality should be interesting. but at this point, I think the lampless projectors are in the lead and will offer a better home cinema experience. the OLED's will be more appropriate for bedroom or living room TV's in my home. still, it'd be pretty interesting to have like an 80" OLED in the bedroom, haha

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100 inch 4K OLED from China, $ $2500, 2014.. Buy then..
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I'm told people need to sit within 6 feet of these things in order for them to provide any real benefit. If we sit 12 feet away like I do 1080 looks about the same. True?
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I'm waiting for the 92" (non-curved) for $4999 and I'm all-in. Say goodbye to my projector for ever wink.gif

Not me, even though I would love such a set. I am a die-hard believer in a acoustically transparent setup.

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My Pioneer Pro-151FD and Pro-110FD should keep me good till Oled becomes closer to a mainstream product. I would say two-three years from now.

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I'm told people need to sit within 6 feet of these things in order for them to provide any real benefit. If we sit 12 feet away like I do 1080 looks about the same. True?

According to much of the research yes. However - if the UHD is really "true UHD" with 10-bit color at 60fps then there will be/should be (depending on the source material) a noticeable increase in picture quality - resolution notwithstanding.

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the race between large cheap OLED's and LED/laser projectors with great picture quality should be interesting. but at this point, I think the lampless projectors are in the lead and will offer a better home cinema experience. the OLED's will be more appropriate for bedroom or living room TV's in my home. still, it'd be pretty interesting to have like an 80" OLED in the bedroom, haha

Its the retina display concept, resolution, size of the screen, distance, you have to figure out all these 3 to know what you need.
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I'm waiting for the 92" (non-curved) for $4999 and I'm all-in. Say goodbye to my projector for ever wink.gif

Really? How big is your current screen? I know some people use some pretty small projection screens (relatively).

I love the idea of OLED image quality, but personally I'd have a hard time giving up the image size I enjoy from my projector (up to around 136" diagonal for 16:9 and over 10 feet wide for 2:35:1 movies).

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Mine is only 88" wide...it's the biggest I could fit with a fixed screen due to some windows in the room. If I went to a motorized screen I could go as large as 100" or so (I sit about 10 feet back from the screen), but 92" would be plenty...especially if it's a flap panel.

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A curve on an 80"+ screen is actually starting to make sense to me. I hated it on small screens, but on a screen this size, if you are sitting close enough to be immersed, your viewing angle increases significantly as you look toward the edges of the screen. That curve would keep the viewing angle in check, even for people not sitting dead center. Maybe part of the reason they made the small screens curved was just to get the manufacturing process down. Layman's opinion....
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Mine is only 88" wide...it's the biggest I could fit with a fixed screen due to some windows in the room. If I went to a motorized screen I could go as large as 100" or so (I sit about 10 feet back from the screen), but 92" would be plenty...especially if it's a flap panel.

Well, there ya go. Your desire for a large OLED makes perfect sense! I hope it's not too long.

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Prototype or no prototype... This is a big step forward for U-HD and OLED, has to be - wow - :drool:
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A curve on an 80"+ screen is actually starting to make sense to me. I hated it on small screens, but on a screen this size, if you are sitting close enough to be immersed, your viewing angle increases significantly as you look toward the edges of the screen. That curve would keep the viewing angle in check, even for people not sitting dead center. Maybe part of the reason they made the small screens curved was just to get the manufacturing process down. Layman's opinion....
Positive side to a curve on a small 4K screen allows a person in the sweet-spot to sit at optimum closeness to appreciate the resolution that encompasses peripheral visions edges - field of view.


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Based on many comments in numerous AVS threads, second-generation OLED sporting HDMI 2.0 and UHD resolution counts as a dream TV—the TV of the future
Not if they continue using sample-and-hold, it doesn't.
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