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post #1 of 3 Old 09-27-2013, 06:45 AM - Thread Starter
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I'm with this guy. I was fairly disappointed with the hdmi 2.0 announcement. 24hz is fine for regular movies, and most movies for some time, but he's right that just higher res is not really going to sell uhd to the regular consumers. They can't tell the difference on a 55" set from 9 feet away. But they will notice better colors, and especially full hd 3d. So we need 48hz at best quality. And while it will be a limited number of films for the next 5 years or so, I was really disappointed that they weren't forward thinking to 48hz/eye 3d a la The Hobbit and 60hz/eye as Avatar 2 is likely to be. PC gaming would also benefit, though it may still be two or three years before even high end cards are able to output uhd 3d at high quality. But given that it seems hdmi 2.0 was just barely an upgrade at all (and honestly, not one many are likely to get any benefit from over 1.4), its like, whats the point? Why didn't you wait until you were ready for a real upgrade?

Reminds me of when they announced Bluray. I wasn't even into CIH then, but I was immediately outraged that there was absolutely no consideration for anamorphic. Hardcoding black bars is just ignorant, period. Without excuse. A waste of pixels.
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UHD needs to be more than extra pixels, sure, but will the manufacturers and content providers stop being boneheads and allow it to be so?

Lossless, 24 bit object-oriented sound as good or better than the theaters? 10 bit or 12 bit video at 4:2:2 or 4:4:4? A much wider color gamut? Whole frame rate encoding for film content and not just video? More variety of native frame rates, so no frame rate conversion is necessary for any region or zone (24, 25, 30, 48, 50, 60, 120)? Etc. Etc. Etc.

They could go all out, but what usually kills the quality is the type and severity of the video compression utilized. It really must be visually transparent to the master.

Listen up, studios! Just say "NO" to DNR and EE!!
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