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I just got off the horn with Ian from Gibby's in Canada 1(877) 761-6354 as they have the LG 77EC9800 currently on their website listed as a Curved 1080p OLED HDTV (77EC9800). He said indeed it is a 4k set and they will update their site. He also said it is only available for pre-order at this time. We talked about IR and burn in issues with a low lifespan compared to LED/LCD 4k.

He said the current issue with LG's OLED is the WRGB is the white pixel not lasting and burning out. He is hopeful that LG has made a work around for this issue. Anyway it is fascinating as the best in class technology is slowly gaining momentum. When they eventually do get these issues ironed out and the price competitive... there will be a shaking in the market like never before! Whooo Hooo!

This burnout, how many hours on the LG OLED are needed?
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This burnout, how many hours on the LG OLED are needed?


You silly willy, I can't do all your leg work and fact checking for you LOL. Google it and you will find info...


But the last info I read it was 1/2 that of LCD/LED technology. Below are 2 links to get you started:


http://www.diffen.com/difference/LED_TV_vs_OLED_TV


http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...nology/#!2iiXA

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I just got off the horn with Ian from Gibby's in Canada 1(877) 761-6354 as they have the LG 77EC9800 currently on their website listed as a Curved 1080p OLED HDTV (77EC9800).
I guess you mean this one listed at $26,999.99 (I assume CAD): http://www.gibbyselectronicsupermark...0-p-10214.html

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You silly willy, I can't do all your leg work and fact checking for you LOL. Google it and you will find info...


But the last info I read it was 1/2 that of LCD/LED technology. Below are 2 links to get you started:


http://www.diffen.com/difference/LED_TV_vs_OLED_TV


http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...nology/#!2iiXA
Haven't come aross any "official comment" from LG - guess someone needs to buy the display and run it 24/7 to find out.
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I still wonder why anyone would buy a curved TV, or projector screen under 30 feet. It is a waste and offers no real viewing difference over a flat surface.
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You silly willy, I can't do all your leg work and fact checking for you LOL. Google it and you will find info...


But the last info I read it was 1/2 that of LCD/LED technology. Below are 2 links to get you started:


http://www.diffen.com/difference/LED_TV_vs_OLED_TV


http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...nology/#!2iiXA
Both links seem to be writing about theoretical burnout, has anybody reported a OLED set actually burning out?
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I still wonder why anyone would buy a curved TV, or projector screen under 30 feet. It is a waste and offers no real viewing difference over a flat surface.
This is been asked repeatedly, do you expect someone to come up with a brilliant answer?
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I still wonder why anyone would buy a curved TV, or projector screen under 30 feet. It is a waste and offers no real viewing difference over a flat surface.
I agree 100% went to see a movie in ATMOS on a 30 feet wide screen that was real nice except for the audience eating stinking food, slurping, farting, sneezing, chewing, talking and on top of it with a mixture of body odor and bad perfume

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Both links seem to be writing about theoretical burnout, has anybody reported a OLED set actually burning out?
That's all it is, theoretical.
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That's all it is, theoretical.
Ponder this, 24 hours a day for 5 years = 43,800 hours. I don't think it's an issue to be bothered about.
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Ponder this, 24 hours a day for 5 years = 43,800 hours. I don't think it's an issue to be bothered about.
Considering I do not use plasma anywhere near that much I guess it is not a worry for me. Although I guess OLED generates less heat so I may use it more in summer then the plasma.
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Both links seem to be writing about theoretical burnout, has anybody reported a OLED set actually burning out?

This is been asked repeatedly, do you expect someone to come up with a brilliant answer?
It was not a question, it was a fact.
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I agree 100% went to see a movie in ATMOS on a 30 feet wide screen that was real nice except for the audience eating stinking food, slurping, farting, sneezing, chewing, talking and on top of it with a mixture of body odor and bad perfume

Total cost family of four $62 plus ice cream = $100 that can buy 20. Blu Ray at $5! Amazon special
Yes it is pathetic isn't it. Just think what they might have posted about sitting next to you.

Only $100, you got out cheap, i never come in under $200 for entertainment.
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They can stick their curved screen where the sun doesn't shine !!
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It was not a question, it was a fact.
You were wondering a 'fact' were you?
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A TV that big..you need to wait until 8K comes around to get the best out of a TV that big...
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A TV that big..you need to wait until 8K comes around to get the best out of a TV that big...
True, I would get a smaller 4K OLED then this one assuming they come available.
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I guess you mean this one listed at $26,999.99 (I assume CAD): http://www.gibbyselectronicsupermark...0-p-10214.html
Yup thats it dude. 27k now will be 12k in 2015, if it mimics the 55 OLED from 2013 to 2014 similar price drops. The Gibby's salesman named Ian whom I spoke with said it was indeed a 4k not 1080p.

Ian seemed pretty up on all the techno babble. Although they do seem to be lax in correcting that 1080p to 4k error...Strange that kind of coin this beast costs and they can't copy and paste correctly for the info!

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I see Gibby's finally corrected their website and changed the 77" OLED to 4k instead of 1080p. About time! Now the price needs corrected cuz 27g is highway robbery. Who wants to bet this exact same time next year it will drop down to 12g or less...

Oh but by then a "new" model will be out twice as good lol.

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It's clear now why Samsung went all-in with curved, edgelit LCDs. 78" of curved LCD for nine grand vs. LG's 77" OLED for 26 grand? It'll be the rare, wealthy videophile who chooses to pay that premium—most millionaire TV shoppers will snap up a few Samsungs for the price of an LG and be done with it. IMO Samsung knew exactly what it was doing when it dumped OLED for curved edgelit LCDs—make it impossible for LG to gain traction with OLED based on price and form factor. LG needs to price the 77" OLED at $9999 immediately.

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It's clear now why Samsung went all-in with curved, edgelit LCDs. 78" of curved LCD for nine grand vs. LG's 77" OLED for 26 grand? It'll be the rare, wealthy videophile who chooses to pay that premium—most millionaire TV shoppers will snap up a few Samsungs for the price of an LG and be done with it. IMO Samsung knew exactly what it was doing when it dumped OLED for curved edgelit LCDs—make it impossible for LG to gain traction with OLED based on price and form factor. LG needs to price the 77" OLED at $9999 immediately.
Good luck with that one. If the past is a predictor of the future in these matters, it will not be until 2nd to 3rd quarter 2015 that this 77" 4k OLED sees any substantial price drops to the levels you suggest.

By then LG's new manufacturing plant will help lower costs as production levels increase beyond current IMO.

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Good luck with that one. If the past is a predictor of the future in these matters, it will not be until 2nd to 3rd quarter 2015 that this 77" 4k OLED sees any substantial price drops to the levels you suggest.

By then LG's new manufacturing plant will help lower costs as production levels increase beyond current IMO.
What I fear is LG giving up on OLED because Samsung dominates in terms of sales volume, because consumers won't differentiate curved LCD from curved OLED.

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What I fear is LG giving up on OLED because Samsung dominates in terms of sales volume, because consumers won't differentiate curved LCD from curved OLED.
I don't see a 77" model being a huge seller in the first place. Their sales or lack of sales shouldn't affect what they do with OLED.

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I don't see a 77" model being a huge seller in the first place. Their sales or lack of sales shouldn't affect what they do with OLED.
A lack of sales will doom OLED, especially at the larger sizes needed to appreciate UHD/4K.

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I ran into an older LG article that was interesting that I had not seen before. And thought I would share... It seems Mr. HA! LOL (Actual name btw) The newly installed young Ceo of LG hopes to get the last laugh on the competition.

For those of us in the USA if we decide to soon purchase a OLED 4k 65" or 77" when they come to market probably 4th quarter 2014, will likely come from south of our border from Mexico.

Yup per the below article link. No surprise there with cheap labor abounding, manufacturers must squeeze all angles to meet their goals & profit margins. I just hope the quality is up to standards, otherwise Mr. HA may have to change his name to Mr. HOLA and move there to set things straight. Gosh I hope he speaks Spanish...

Here's a tip of the hat to LG as the forerunner of what could be the reference tecno gadget we all yearn for in our homes. And an unfortunate wag of the tail in the face of the other manufacturers who chose not to partner with LG for R & D leaving them all alone to bear the initial burden and expense to bring to market.

These same manufactures no doubt will be 1st in line to buy LG's OLED 4k panels to market as their own. Each with their proprietary electronics and branding, providing LG is able to overcome the infamous 4 hurdles associated with this particular tech.

I for one cheer you on LG!!!

Link: http://www.lgnewsroom.com/newsroom/contents/64125

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Hope oled wont die out vs lcd as plasma did
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Hope oled wont die out vs lcd as plasma did
You're not the only one.

The obvious is that until the Samsung F8500, the brightness of an LCD in stores would cause buyers to gravitate towards buying LCDs. By the time the F8500 came around, power consumption became a big thing. Understandably so when I look at the watt meter and see the 64F8500 drawing over 600 watts.

My concern about OLED is the less than obvious that we might all be missing. A good for instance is if the Chinese will make LED LCDs so cheap that there won't be enough of a market for OLEDs to survive. Say Joe 6 pack sees a 65" OLED LG for $3K and right next to it is a Hisense (that's Chinese, right?) for $1,500. Which do you think he's going to buy?

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Update. Looks like the UK will get their 77" 4k OLED in October! So we here in the USA should see a similar timeframe rollout.

Recent info links below, enjoy! BTW wipe that drool from your chin.

PS: The 2nd link has a short cool video. The dude interviewing an LG spokesperson looks like he has to pee or something, the way he is waddling side to side like a Penguin.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06...akes_uk_debut/



http://recombu.com/digital/news/lg-s...-eyes-on-video

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Update. Looks like the UK will get their 77" 4k OLED in October! So we here in the USA should see a similar timeframe rollout.

Recent info links below, enjoy! BTW wipe that drool from your chin.

PS: The 2nd link has a short cool video. The dude interviewing an LG spokesperson looks like he has to pee or something, the way he is waddling side to side like a Penguin.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06...akes_uk_debut/



http://recombu.com/digital/news/lg-s...-eyes-on-video
I certainly am drooling. I sure hope the high risk, high reward bet that LG is making with OLED pays off, for all our sakes. I feel without them succeeding in this arena it will be a huge set back to a potential star technology.
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I still wonder why anyone would buy a curved TV, or projector screen under 30 feet. It is a waste and offers no real viewing difference over a flat surface.
The only curved set I'll buy is this one:



I have no idea why Samsung and LG think this is a good idea. What are these guys smoking?

I'm completely flummoxed that they don't see the wisdom in just selling displays that produce an honest Rec709 picture without any BS. Everything is hype, gimmicks, and silliness.
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WHAT reviews are you referring to?  People walking around a show?  There has not been a hands-on review of the thing yet AFAICT.  Unless you have a link....?



Arugh! Here is a review: http://www.reviewed.com/content/vizio-uhd-p-series

 
You're joking right?  Did you read it?  Those 5 sentences are NOT a review.
I read this there : "Vizio has been known for offering great value, if not the absolute greatest televisions".

Almost fell outa my chair laughing no lie SRSLY

The P might be a pretty good set and all... I'll believe it when our buddy Vegasoled checks it out and says so
If he gives it a pass it will have to be good that doesn't mean the greatest though unless he says so
and we all know that ain't likely to happen !

On the side, I'm not about curved screens in any size short of a Home or commercial I Max theater
or in any event any size TV I could afford .

OTOH I might have to re think that in at least this case ,77" curved LG OLED is making me wish I could get lucky on a short sell
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