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Last Friday, Samsung took over The Guggenheim in Manhattan to pitch its latest lineup of home entertainment gear. The theme of the event was curved screens, though pricing and availability information was provided for the company’s entire home entertainment lineup.  

 

Samsung Electronics America Senior VP Dave Das unveils the HU9000 curved UHDTV

 

The stars of the show were undoubtedly the TVs, especially the company’s new 105-inch, 21:9 LED-backlit UHDTV. It is the dream screen for widescreen movie fans; however, Samsung declined to name a price. It doesn’t matter—since Samsung’s 110-inch S9 UHD LED (available now) goes for $150,000, it’s entirely possible the 105-incher will also run six figures. 

 

At the event, Samsung presented its complete lineup of 2014 HD and UHD TV models, with sizes ranging from 32 to 78 inches at prices from $650 up to $8000. The company even announced a new model—the HU8700—that is identical to the HU8550 announced at CES 2014, except that the screen is curved. 

 

Here’s an excerpt from Samsung's press release, featuring the complete TV lineup along with expected release dates and pricing:

 

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"Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., the leader in TV technology for 8 years, today announced the availability and pricing of its full 2014 Home Entertainment product lineup, including the immersive U9000 Series of Curved Ultra High Definition (UHD) TVs and its expansive portfolio of home audio products.

Samsung Electronics America today unveiled its U9000 Curved Ultra High Definition (UHD) TV at the So ...

Samsung Electronics America today unveiled its U9000 Curved Ultra High Definition (UHD) TV at the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum in New York on March 20, 2014. Samsung's first Curved UHD TVs will be available in the U.S. beginning this month, offering consumers outstanding UHD picture quality and a breathtaking curved design for an incredible, immersive entertainment experience. (Photo: Business Wire)

“In 2014, we’ve once again asserted our leadership in the home entertainment space by delivering the next big thing across our product categories,” said Joe Stinziano, Executive Vice President, Samsung Electronics America. “From our full lineup of UHD and curved TVs to our Shape Wireless Audio-Multiroom Systems and content partnerships, we pride ourselves on offering consumers the ecosystem of choice, with beautifully designed premium home entertainment products that best suit their lifestyles.”

Getting Immersed With Samsung’s Curved UHD TVs

Samsung’s new 2014 Curved UHD TVs deliver a bold theatrical experience and fundamentally change the way the world views TVs. The curved screen gives videos a presence not felt on flat screens, plus, a wider field of view creates a panoramic effect that makes the display seem even bigger than it is and draws viewers in like no TV has ever done before. From virtually any viewing position or angle, the curved design creates a more true-to-life experience so everyone watching has the best seat in the house.

With four times the resolution and pixels of Full HD, these UHD TVs provide unsurpassed picture quality. UHD sources look spectacular in crisp 4K resolution on Samsung UHD TVs. Thanks to UHD Upscaling, featured on all Samsung UHD TVs, viewers are treated to the best possible picture, regardless of source material. The proprietary technology converts Full HD, HD and lower resolution sources to nearly-UHD clarity through a unique four-step process that includes signal analysis, noise reduction, upscaling and detail analysis, so everything looks better on Samsung UHD TVs. UHD Dimming technology also helps to further optimize picture quality by processing each block of a picture and delivering deeper blacks and improved contrast.

Samsung’s UHD TVs not only support today’s standards -- including HEVC, HDMI 2.0, MHL 3.0 and HDCP 2.2; they are the only TVs on the market that are future-ready, thanks to the Samsung UHD Evolution Kit. The One Connect Box essentially houses the brains of the TV externally, enabling customers to switch out the box with the latest Samsung UHD Evolution Kit to stay up to date on the latest UHD standards, as well as get access to the newest technology Samsung has to offer, all helping customers protect their investment for many years to come.

In 2014, Samsung is rolling out four new series of UHD TVs, more than doubling its UHD product line up from last year. From flat panel to Curved, Samsung is offering the widest range of UHD TVs to fit consumer choice.

Samsung’s 105” Curved UHD TV - Thanks to its significant 105-inch size, beautifully curved design and movie-theater aspect ratio, this TV offers the ultimate cinema-quality experience in the living room. With a cinematic 21 x 9 aspect ratio, everything will look better on this immersive 105” UHD TV which boasts a spectacular display with 11 million pixels. The Samsung’s 105” Curved UHD TV will be available in the second half of the year.

Samsung’s U9000 Curved UHD TV - Delivering the ultimate immersive experience, Samsung’s U9000 Curved UHD TV includes exclusive technology that delivers incredible life-like UHD picture quality on a cutting-edge curved screen. This combination envelops viewers in spectacular color, clarity and detail. The immersive sensation is augmented by Samsung’s proprietary Auto Depth Enhancer, an algorithm that analyzes regions of images and automatically adjusts contrast for a greater sense of depth -- it’s like 3D without the glasses. Color is further enhanced on these sets with Samsung’s PurColor™ technology, expressing more detailed shades and Peak Illuminator & Precision Black maximizes brightness range which reproduces the picture as film-makers envisioned. The new series of Samsung curved screens can also be wall-mounted out of the box with regular mounts compatible with VESA Standards. Samsung’s U9000 Curved UHD TV will be available from March in a 55” model for $3,999.99 and 65” for $4,999.99. A 78” model will also be released later this year for $7,999.99.

Samsung’s U8700 Curved UHD TV – The newly introduced Samsung U8700 Curved UHD TV Series delivers an immersive, lifelike UHD 4K picture. With Precision Black local dimming, contrasts are enhanced while UHD Dimming perfects brightness. The TV’s thinness of 1.2 inches and extremely narrow 7mm (0.27-inch) bezel combine to create a panel only-illusion. Samsung’s U8700 Curved UHD TV will be available late Spring in 55” and 65” screen sizes. Pricing is still to be determined.

Samsung’s U8550 UHD TV (flat) - Samsung’s U8550 UHD TV delivers incredible life-like UHD picture quality and is packed with exceptional Smart TV capabilities. With Samsung’s proprietary UHD Dimming, the Samsung U8550 adjusts brightness to deliver deeper blacks and brighter whites producing a crystal clear picture experience. The Samsung U8550 UHD TV will be available from March in a 55” model for $2,999.99 and a 65” model for $3,999.99. The 50” ($2,499.99), 60” ($3,499.99) and 75” ($5,999.99) models will be released in May.

The New Standard of LED TV

This year, Samsung is introducing the curved form factor to its highly popular LED TV offering with the H8000 Series. Additionally, Samsung is introducing the new H7150 series -- a real 240Hz Full HD LED TV to round out its 2014 TV line up.

Samsung’s H8000 Curved Smart LED TV – This Curved LED TV creates a wider field of view, stunning picture quality and breakthrough motion blur reduction technology, giving sports fans, music lovers, and gamers the uninterrupted, immersive experience they demand, plus all of the content they want with Samsung’s Smart TV offerings. Available this Spring, the H8000 Series will come in a 55” model for $2,499.99 and a 65” model for $3,399.99. The 48” model will be release in May for $1,999.99.

Samsung’s H7150 FHD LED TV – Samsung’s H7150 FHD LED TV has a streamlined design that looks impressive with any décor and features Micro Dimming Pro and Multi-Screen entertainment to deliver incredible picture with enhanced color, contrast and detail. With Quad Core power split screen, consumers can follow fantasy scores while watching the big game live or enjoy their favorite cooking channel while reviewing recipes. Giving consumers more access is just the beginning with Smart View 2.0; viewers can wirelessly share favorite content from their mobile devices to their Smart TV. What’s more, they can also stream content on their TV directly to their mobile device. Samsung H7150 is available this Spring in a 55” model for $1,899.99, 60” model for $2,199.99, 65” model for $2,699.99 and a 75” model for $3,999.99." - source: reuters.com and Samsung

 


 

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There's no way I would ever buy a curved TV. I think that will be a big flop.
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It would be very nice if Samsung tried to complete with the FALD sets that Sony and Visio displayed at CES and are suppose to release this year. I would like some high-end competition at the 65-79" size in flat tvs that everyone in my family can enjoy together and that I can feel confident I got the highest quality picture.
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+1 to everything you said. I won't buy a curved screen, even for 4K/UltraHD. flat for me!

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There's no way I would ever buy a curved TV. I think that will be a big flop.

You can buy a curved 65" HDTV for $3400 or an equivalent flat UHD for $4000. Do you think most people will spend the extra $600 for a UHD model? I know I would.
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You can buy a curved 65" HDTV for $3400 or an equivalent flat UHD for $4000. Do you think most people will spend the extra $600 for a UHD model? I know I would.

for that price diff, the choice between 1080p curved vs ultraHD flat should be pretty obvious. I think curved is marketing hokum at its worst.

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Are they serious? This reminds me of Nero fiddling or someone telling breadless peasants to eat cake. I would never buy an LCD and I certainly wouldn't buy a resolution unsupported by standards or actual content. Oh, and where is this OLED that's been right around the corner for the past 3 years?
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Find it 'very' weird they are producing (imo) pointless "curved" LCD's.

Could be a ruse to cover up for the problems with OLED panels.
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this really is a good example of an industry pushing a trend nobody asked for, and nobody wants, just because they can't do what consumers actually want(produce cheap oled, or improve lcd performance)  

I'm just so tired of manufacturers doing what is easy instead of what is necessary. why fix viewing angles and backlight uniformity when we can make the screen curved for no apparent reason. why develop a superior technology when we can spend that R&D money on marketing to brainwash the public our display is better.

There are flat ones too. You have lot of choices to buy from. Have you actually seen the curved screen? I have, it's not dramatic. It's very minimal. It looks flat when viewing.
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Are they serious? This reminds me of Nero fiddling or someone telling breadless peasants to eat cake. I would never buy an LCD and I certainly wouldn't buy a resolution unsupported by standards or actual content. Oh, and where is this OLED that's been right around the corner for the past 3 years?

The OLED's are out and are available for sale.

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The OLED's are out and are available for sale.
There were, what, two models from 2013 and one model planned for 2014?

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There were, what, two models from 2013 and one model planned for 2014?

3 Currently being sold and I believe 3 more in different sizes 2014. smile.gif

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What kind of packaging will go with these curved TV's - I assume they're going to be Wider!
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3 Currently being sold and I believe 3 more in different sizes 2014. smile.gif

The Samsung model "currently" being sold is basically gone, with no replacement coming any time soon. So there is a definite lack of Samsung OLED. They are clearly having issues, as Samsung would definitely play in this space if they weren't. Definitely not business as usual. Curved is a way for them to differentiate, for sure, but it is not based on any tangible demand from customers. I think they are trying to cash in on their leadership position in the industry, thinking that people will buy it just because it is Samsung assuming that it is the cutting edge. Personally, I don't think it will be successful. At least not successful enough to justify dedicating all of their top tier models to the technology. My guess is that they will lose marketshare in high-end TV this year.
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Are the H5500, H6350, and H6400 also new 2014 models? Those look like the more pedestrian models real people will want to buy.

The H5500 series looks like 60Hz panels, H6350 120Hz panels, and H6400 240Hz and 3D.

Lots of info on their "Smart" features, but very little on the technical specs of the displays. Contrast ratio? Backlighting? Basically, they're selling a media computer that happens to have a screen.

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In the long run for me it doesn't matter cause I wouldn't buy a Samsung to begin with, I'd get a Panny or Sony before I'd buy a Samsung. Did I miss it or did the article not make any mention of 2014 Plasmas? I thought Samsung and LG were supposed to continue making plasma.
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There's no way I would ever buy a curved TV. I think that will be a big flop.

Well, at a big enough size, it would make sense. We have 100"+ curved theater screens from Stewart and others.

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Yea, I don't understand why the curve is not optional. Many wont want it, and anybody who wall mounts their tvs especially wont want it.
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In the long run for me it doesn't matter cause I wouldn't buy a Samsung to begin with, I'd get a Panny or Sony before I'd buy a Samsung. Did I miss it or did the article not make any mention of 2014 Plasmas? I thought Samsung and LG were supposed to continue making plasma.
I don't know the whole picture, but I do know that Samsung will continue production of the F8500 (2013) for a while. The only 2014 plasma I'm aware of from Samsung is the H5000.

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I keep reading on AVS that we can't mount curved screens. I don't understand it. Creating mounts for curved screens should be a doddle.
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.. Have you actually seen the curved screen? I have, it's not dramatic. It's very minimal. It looks flat when viewing.
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Then they should let it be flat!
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Well, at a big enough size, it would make sense. We have 100"+ curved theater screens from Stewart and others.

Yes, we have curved FP screens. But there is a reason for that. And that reason is fading into history more and more. There is absolutely no reason for a light emitting display to be curved... none.
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Well, at a big enough size, it would make sense. We have 100"+ curved theater screens from Stewart and others.


I know that. And I would never use a curved screen for my projector either
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I know that. And I would never use a curved screen for my projector either

At least you're being consistent. smile.gif

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I keep reading on AVS that we can't mount curved screens. I don't understand it. Creating mounts for curved screens should be a doddle.
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I keep reading on AVS that we can't mount curved screens. I don't understand it. Creating mounts for curved screens should be a doddle.

 

That only applied to first-generation OLEDs. The latest curved screen models were found mounted all over the place, both at CES and in NYC.

 

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Exactly. If there is a need, engineering mounts for a curved screen will be no challenge at all. As imagic has shown, that has already been accomplished on a smaller scale. I can definitely see the negative of having a curved screen, but I also like variety, even if the particular design doesn't work for me. Trust me, flat screens are going nowhere.
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I am depressed with all the gimmiks, curved is a fad and the loss of Plasma and no reasonable priced/sized OLED on the horizon has me wishing I could have stocked up on VT/ZT60s to last me a few years. I blame the ipod on all the acceptance of mediocrity. People have no clue about true audio/video fidelity and let all the gimmicks and bling (torch mode and fancy demos) sway their decisions. UHD on a backlit display with no content and people are oogling this stuff like it is so impressive.
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I am depressed with all the gimmiks, curved is a fad and the loss of Plasma and no reasonable priced/sized OLED on the horizon has me wishing I could have stocked up on VT/ZT60s to last me a few years. I blame the ipod on all the acceptance of mediocrity. People have no clue about true audio/video fidelity and let all the gimmicks and bling (torch mode and fancy demos) sway their decisions. UHD on a backlit display with no content and people are oogling this stuff like it is so impressive.

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Samsung is going to have a very bad year in the TV division. This curved screen gimmick, the failure of their OLED tech, the decision to go mostly edge-lit and continuing pricing pressure from the Chinese. If they don't get their act together they will be out of the display business in the next 5 years.
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