Originally Posted by fleaman
Here's an FCC link for you.
Wow, that government has a page out there that hasn't been updated to reflect the definition of broadband. This shouldn't be surprising to anyone.
Originally Posted by Garman
Frankly I would love to see Rental shops pop up again, we have one remaining hold out, and I hope they stay in business. (Family Video) Redbox was a good concept, but at times you were waiting in line outside in the cold or heat for a person in front of you to make a decision so you could return your movie or pick another one up. I for one would like to see physical media survive for a while longer, seems to employ more people. If we keep on automating stuff we are going to end up like the people on Wall-E.
You can't fight technological change, you have to adapt. Thomas L. Friedman would have a field day with a statement like that.
In terms of the market, Redbox is doing well only because they are in a shrinking market that hasn't fully shrunk yet, and their overhead is so low that they have a good business model for a few years to come. However, the rental stores can't survive with high overhead. Now they not only have cable VOD (which is probably the single biggest thing that killed them) to compete with, but iTunes, Amazon, VUDU, AND Redbox, which does the physical discs for far less.
Also, there are some Redbox clones out there, there's one (not sure exactly what it is) at my local gas station mart thing. Never really paid much attention to it, since I rent through mostly through VUDU HDX and through iTunes or Amazon if it's not available on VUDU or cheaper on Amazon.
Originally Posted by fleaman
Wow, lots of "I" this and "I" that.
Dude, we know what you would do.
I clearly delineated fact from my opinion and the consensus opinion of America.
\Why are you so dense into thinking I or anyone else should do as you also? You keep forgetting that I don't "stream HD videos" /vudo for very excellent reasons (i.e. cost AND AV quality vs Redbox blu ray). Many here posted the same. Are they all angry old men too? Or perhaps you're just a spoiled child who's always right?
Wow. You really like to argue. You apparently didn't bother reading most of my posts, as I clearly explained why, even absent movie streaming, modern internet users really need a lot more than 2mbps (although probably not 100mbps). And then of course, there might be a movie that you can't get from your local Redbox, even if you wanted to. So there's a place where you would have to stream it, or else you wouldn't be able to get it. I suppose you could do cable VOD, but the quality of that looks NOTHING like Blu-ray, whereas HDX, whether or not it looks exactly like a blu-ray on a large screen is, in any case, darn close.
Again, you never answer my direct questions, try if you can grasshopper>
#1 What am I gonna get by going for the next tier level broadband? Specifically what? I can watch a 1080p youtube (when avail---only about 10-20% of the time that option is there for the youtubes I've watched) on my small computer screen w/o buffering instead of 480p? BFD, I don't CARE. But if you do, I would love you to send me the monthly $$$ difference into my paypal account and I will Gladly upgrade!
Otherwise you've convinced me of nothing regarding upgrading----more importantly, paying for an upgrade. I mentioned that I downloaded the biggest file ever in a few years, a whole 107mb that took 7 mins, so I watched a few minutes of recorded DVR. So, I upgrade to the next level and now it only takes 2 minutes or so? For what? At what cost? For downloading something like that once or year or so?
Says the ignorant one who's never watched Vudu HDX in a bigger and better HT theater.
Wait... WHAT? I was going to make another comment about you sounding like an old curmudgeon until I saw the 107MB file remark, and I almost fell out of my chair. Apparently you don't really use a computer, or the internet other than posting on AVSForum, and you haven't bought any computer hardware that requires drivers in a decade or something if the biggest thing you've downloaded is 107MB. That's a relatively small file in today's world. 1-2GB is common, and 5GB isn't that unusual.
People who actually use their computers, or just do basic maintenance on their computers will download files far larger than 107MB. And, for the record, that file would take me all of 8 seconds to download.
There's many posters in this thread that agree with me. Debate with them.
Thanks Bieber, your insight is deep.
See, this is what you don't get. That's just fine. You happen to get your media off the internet, I get it through TWC HD DVR. For the 'Cinematic', I drop my electric projection screen to pop in a blu ray. Even you appear to agree with that.
What's the big deal?
You might find it funnier that there are people here laughing too....but just not 'with you'. Well, my guess is you wouldn't find that funny....
Although the whackos always come out of the woodwork on forums, you are going to find very few people who by choice have sub-broadband internet connections on a forum like AVS, where most of the users are technologically competent, and have well above standard levels of technology, like fast broadband, powerful smartphones, and HTPCs.
Originally Posted by Chris5028
In retrospect, had I bought my main display at Walmart I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between HDX and Blu Ray either...
Really? I bought mine at BJs, and that has nothing to do with anything. My display is a top of the line, Sharp 8470 (847 with a different SKU for BJs/Sams/Cosco) 3D LED Smart TV.
Originally Posted by UofAZ1
Disc to digital is just looking for the actual disc for verification. So by putting the library copy in my disc drive at the library it confirms verification and I'm good to go. Don't see how that's illegal. They set up the system. As for the buying codes online. The owner of the physical Bluray's has the right to sell his property (the UV insert card) to whomever he/she wants and so sells them to various sites who then in turn sell them to me at a discounted cost. Nowhere is it stated on the insert card that the card cant be sold or traded. (Ebay itself has a hundred or so for sale right now). Sure its a loophole but one I'm going to take advantage of.
You have to remember that Vudu is still making money off of every Disc to digital I load into my account. I'm loading movies I normally would never load (for my family members because its so cheap) so Wal Mart still makes more money off of me than they ever would had I not figured out the library trick.
Ugh... That's messy. At that point, why not just torrent it?
Originally Posted by Mattopotamus
Vudu is set up so you can share with 5 people. There is actually an area once logged in to enter 5 emails to share your collection with.
That's actually kind of cool, and gives a purpose to Ultraviolet. Then it's just a matter of getting people on VUDU to use it!