Originally Posted by Mrorange303
4k. But then you'll make an excuse for something. Notice the freckles. Better color?
After painstakingly reading through this entire thread, I can only conclude that you don’t actually see a lot of the picture flaws on his 4K set, because you are too entranced by the color reproduction which is obviously not as accurate. The comparison shots from Frozen really sealed the deal for me, since you were quick to point out how the 4K one looks better, when you can compare the screenshots directly and see how it is not accurately representing the film image.
Specifically, in the first image, I can see how you can be led to believe that the 4K picture (on the left) is more detailed, because you can see more fine details in the hair. However, just noticing how much darker the shadow area of the hair is, it is obvious that the 4K set has the contrast turned up way too high. Obviously that will accentuate the details in the image, but at the expense of accurate color reproduction (in this case, making her red hair appear closer to copper).
And yes, you can see details like the freckles on her nose more clearly, but again, that is because the flesh tones of her face are blown out to almost white, and the contrast is increased so that subtle details become less subtle. Things like the freckles are supposed to be subtle texturing and details, not a distinct black mole in the middle of her nose.
In the second image, you can see the problems with increased contrast, and also possibly some edge enhancement. Ignoring the moiré effect from the camera, you can see that the 4K image on the left has more compression artifacts around the eye, and the hair coming down looks sharper, but not nearly as smooth. The hair is filled with jaggies on the 4K image that are simply not there on the 1080p image, and you can see a clear white ring around the iris in the 4K image that is not there in the 1080p image. Having a white fringe is a clear sign of oversharpening and edge enhancement.
Finally, the third image shows just how much detail is lost because of the increased contrast and edge enhancement on the 4K set. The 57:57 time marker is fuzzy on the 4K image, and markedly clearer on the 1080p image. On the 1080p image, the Snow Monster text and progress dots are clearly an ice blue, whereas the 4K text and dots are closer to white. In fact, it is much harder to distinguish the blue dots from the white dots on the 4K image. And look at the movie frame itself: The snow monster on the right is smooth and detailed, with a subtle purple highlight on one side and a blue highlight on the other side. But on the 4K image, the purple highlight is almost white, and the subtle blue highlight has turned into a completely white blown-out mess. Meanwhile, the purple light on the rear wall is also much closer to white, and the ice structure in from has become a mess of artifacts instead of a smooth image.
Honestly, for someone who has been touting the increased detail of the 4K sets, I’m surprised that you don’t notice how bad the image really is. It seems like you are equating fake sharpness with detail, like someone who boosts the bass and treble to extremes and then talks about how much better the audio sounds. There is a lot to be said for subtle details, and the 4K display just doesn’t have them.