Originally Posted by Mrorange303
Again i prompt anyone who is considering a 4k or 1080p set to go see them for yourself.
The experts do not represent the genral public and only your eyes can tell you what you see.
Not a person in this thread can force your eyes to be wrong.
So as you read these post that continue to say your wrong and your eyes dont work just remember its your hard earned money.
Your eyes and your taste are all that matter. If you see a benefit to 4k like most do and that is to your liking buy one if you can.
If its not to your liking there are numerouse awesome 1080p sets to look at.
Either way dont let some one with a vedetta agaist me ( glad you erased that comment things were about to get personal) decide your next tv purchase.
Get out there and see these sets in person. Its the only way you should ever spend your money on one.
I mostly agree with you in this case Mrorange, and I always try to encourage anyone interested to go see the sets and do as much research as possible. However, I would indeed emphasize the researching and educating oneself
as much as possible. Yes, we all have our "tastes" and rely on our own eyes of course, but there is a good number of consumers who simply do not actually know what to look for and can use some help (not meant in a condescending way by no means). Educating oneself is simply something we all should do when making a purchase decision, in order to be able to indeed make an "educated decision".
I have experienced many users who indeed were "impressed" with the dynamic mode on their sets and thought they had an awesome TV that "lit up the room". An uneducated consumer will easily be impressed by such things as scorching brightness, or exaggerated sharpness, sometimes even SOE, not realizing that colors are being crushed, artifacts are introduced, cadence is wrong, etc. etc. This is how to get a less educated consumer to buy your TV (otherwise how does one even explain the existence of the dynamic mode, and all the bells and whistles that any calibrator or enthusiast will immediately turn off, lol). But, once such consumers were explained the fine details during calibration for example, learned about things they didn't know to look for before, and realized what a real picture quality looks like, it became an eyeopening experience. Most calibrators can tell you countless stories like that. So yes, go out there and see the TV's of course, but do not by any means ignore the info the experts are providing, as this is the best way to learn and educate yourself. Going out there to see for yourself is great, but like with anything, if you don't really know what to look for, you are more likely not
to get the best TV for your money... So learn from the experts (who are more than happy to help and promote true quality) to protect your hard earned money from being wasted on a bad TV, simply because you didn't know better...
Same with 4K - see it for yourself, but also learn about all aspects of picture and TV quality to avoid spending your hard earned money on some extra pixels and not getting the TV with truly best picture or overall performance. Not saying that cannot end up being one of 4K TV's after all - there is always some room for personal preference (although shortcomings of LCD's continue to not impress), but even to decide between different 4K models one is better served with learning about the other aspects as well and getting info from experts... So let's not discredit them by saying "no one can tell you anything, just see for yourself"... The experts can indeed tel you a lot, and those who listen usually end up benefiting hugely - again as any calibrator experiences every time with someone who has never had a TV calibrated before...
P.S. I am not commenting in regards to any personal vendettas - I am not sure what's going on there and do not want to get involved. Only making a general comment...