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Last updated: 3/18/24
(sorry photos -- and build progression -- got lost in some photobucket/AVS thing a while back. PM me if you want to see something)

* LINK to HT thread Pics overview of basement and HT (10/17/09) *

Index
(Indexing idea from oman321's thread)
RSC200 dimensions and screen height, Sound Anchors CC stands, CC pics, CC fill info, CC stand
Coloring scheme:
  • green = FW updates
  • blue = internet links or highlights
  • red = highlights or something that might (or did) change
Main HT System:
HT Room:

-- Dedicated HT room - designed by Rives Audio (Level 1+) with some modifications (eg front partial wall added after design)
–- Room dimensions - 22' 4" x 17' 6" x 7'7” height (ceiling diffusers hang down 3 ft) -- Room volume: ~2900 ft^3
-- Screen height (middle): 56"
-- Seating for 8 = 4 in front, 4 in back on a ~6” riser - rsh (AVS) - Private Collection - 3033 - Ovations
-- Approximate screen-to-seat distance:
---- Front row: ~10 ft
---- Back row: ~17 ft

-- Acoustic Room Treatments
---- QuietRock drywall on interior wall and ceiling (with HVAC routed through it so not perfect)
---- Bass traps (floor to ceiling, 703 fiberglass wrapped) in 4 corners
---- Ceiling diffusers (703 on top, wood on bottom)
---- Soffit traps
---- Wall diffusers
-- Room wall and ceiling color: Sherwin-Williams “Warm Stone”
-- Partial false front wall - ~144" across (allows access to electric cabinet behind)
-- Partial front wall color: Sherwin-Williams "Tricorn Black" (flat)
-- there is a central pillar ~18.5 ft from front wall-- new (darker) carpet installed summer 2015
Rack: Middle Atlantic WR-37-32 (pulls out and swivels to allow access to back of rack
-- although too heavy now with gear in it! )
- 19"- Front Panel: MA UN1-1C
---- Switchcraft RS232 - for Denon AVR (not sure of utility now with AVR-A1H)
---- Switchcraft RS232 - (originally for Lumagen Radiance XE)
---- Switchcraft USB - for Lumagen Radiance Pro 4446
---- Switchcraft HDMI - for easy HDMI input to Lumagen Pro
---- Switchcraft Ethernet - for access if someone has a laptop

Rack lights: Middle Atlantic PDLT-815RV-RN
Power: dedicated 20A lines, house electric, ethernet, & coaxial cable (Intermatic) surge protection
-- Electronics: Surge-X SEQ
-- Projector: Furman F1500-UPS (12/30/22 installed)
OLD/Recycled: Furman M1500-UPS-PFP (repaired capacitors and new battery in 2013, also stopped working again 4-2016)
-- Mains/sub: Panamax M2A20
Projector: JVC RS520
-- HDMI (in wall/ceiling): Monoprice Cabarnet Ultra CL2 Active High Speed HDMI Cable, 30 ft
-- Settings:--- FW: v30.1 -- 07/08/17 Updated JVC RS520 from FW v29.2 (came with projector) -> v30.1
"This new Firmware will fix an intermittent lock up issue while viewing or switching UHD/4K@60P sources.
Applicable models: DLA-RS420, DLA-RS520, DLA-RS620, DLA-X570, DLA-X770, DLA-X970
Current Version: 0000, Release Date: 2001-01-01
Available Versions
Version: v30.1, Release Date: 2017-03-21

...Source: Apple TV 4K gen2
Video processor: Lumagen RadiancePro 4446 {18 GHz input x2 & 18 GHz output x1 cards} 2021 version
1/20/21 Updated 1RU version from 2016 2RU version
-- 4446: 8 inputs, 4 processed outputs, 1RU case (1/20/21 arrived)
-- FW Beta 030424- Posted 031724 - on 3/18/24 -- Lumagen

Beta 012724 - Posted 021024 More HDR dynamic tone mapping improvements. Subtitle vertical shift feature fixed for letterbox bottom & top autoaspect modes. Menu sizing and placement options added in the menu under Other: Menu Control: Menu Options. Menu colors changed. Added ZQI54 rs232 command to read back auto aspect status, replies with 1/0 for enabled/disabled. Some small bug fixes. Please continue sending your detailed feedback to support@lumagen.com
Update time ~5 minutes @230k from previous firmware.


---- "0581" on 06-13-18 to use new 18 GHz FW (didn't work). Did 0581 on 2-7-19 and it worked (posted in Lumagen thread)
-- Delay, Video setting: ???-
-- Notes: Lumagen Radiance Pro -> MENU 0819 - Pro to only report HDCP 1.X to HDCP 2.2 sources like the Amazon Fire TV w/ HDCP 1.X projector (RS20)


- OLD
-- Lumagen RadianceXE -- stopped working 4-2016. Troubleshooting with Jim Peterson (President Lumagen) on 4-12-16.
-- LumagenPro stopped working 1/2021. 1/20/21 Updated 1RU version from 2016 2RU version Lumagen RadiancePro 4446 {18 GHz input x2 & 18 GHz output x1 cards}
Lumagen RadiancePro 4444 (4-28-16) --> 12-24-16 converted to a 4446

--HDMI In:
--- 1 -
--- 2 -
--- 3
--- 4
--- 5 -
--- 6 -
--- 7 (18 GHz) -
--- 8 (18 GHz) -

-- HDMI OUT
--- 1 (audio) -
--- 2 (video, 18 GHz)
--- 3
--- 4

Source HDMI cable:
Black Squid - HDMI Cable (6 Feet) with Braided Cord (4K 2K 2160p 1080p 3D 18Gbps) - High Speed Category 2 - Ethernet & Audio Return Channel

CALIBRATIONS:
1) Craig Rounds - 05/16/09 JVC RS20 w/ Lumagen RadianceXE
2) Craig Rounds - 06/29/13 JVC RS20 w/ Lumagen RadianceXE
3) @desertdome - 4/10/19 JVC RS520 w/ Lumagen Radiance Pro
3.5) @desertdome 05/11/19 updated and actually used a different method than his first time (RGB 709 color space) & fixed lip sync issue (Denon) & non-anamorphic stretch

  • RGB 709 colorspace (to avoid filter lumen loss)
  • CMS0 BR or UHD
  • CMS1 3D
Ceiling mount: Chief RPMA (O) Elite
  • doesn't work with JVC RS520 (brackets too small)
  • changed to a Chief SLM281 plate.
Screen: 2.40:1 Carada Brilliant White (BW) Criterion 128" (diagonal) screen
Anamorphic Lens: ISCO IIIL + CineSlide™ CSII Anamorphic Lens Transport
-- (special thanks to Wayne / @funlvr1965 (now @HTMarine), Scott / @GetGray, and Jim R. [carpenter] for their help)
Television: Apple TV 4K x4 (house wide) in generation 1 to 3 versions
Receiver: Denon AVR-A1H (install 1/26/23)
  • Audyssey XT calibration - pending
  • Pro kit with converter from Amazon - Audyssey Line-Level to mic Level Adapter, Female RCA/Phono to Male 1/8” (3.5mm) Mini-Plug - Amazon.com

Subwoofer: SVS PB12-Ultra/2 (rosewood) (SVS link)
--- 1 plug = Tuned to 20 Hz -- I'd consider changing this to 16 Hz given that I have enough headroom at 20 Hz
--- 12/24/22 - 2 plug = Tuned to 16 Hz


OLD / Replaced 12-23-22
Denon 5308CI
-- FW updated 8-6-09
-- MultEQ(xt) optimization:
---- Room EQ:
"Audyssey Flat" (due to acoustical room treatments - so not Audyssey reference) -> actually changed to Pro kit version (see subsequent posts around 11-06-09)
---- Dynamic EQ: ON
---- Dynamic Volume: OFF
---- Added Bass: 05/07/17 added +3 to Subwoofer in AVR (moved -10 to -7 setting)

Power amplifier: (Pending): Apollon Audio Purifi 1ET7040SA - 250 W/ch @ 8ohm x7 channels
Blu Ray/SACD/DVD-A: Oppo UDP-203-- Firmware - updated 12/28/18
-- Firmware - updated 02/09/19
Latest Official Release Version
Release date: February 8, 2019
Category: Latest Official Release

Main Version: UDP20X-65-0131
Loader Version: TF0035
MCU Version: MCU203-01-1118


-- UDP-203 Settings:
---- Source Direct
---- Was previously using 50-100 nit on slider, but turned off after 052017 Lumagen FW update
Game: Xbox Pro "Jasper" (12.1A/150W PS) 60 GB HD w/ "carbon fiber" faceplate -
Link
Speaker Cables (L/R): Raven Audio Soniquil 2m
Mains: av123 Rocket RS1000 Signature
-- toed in toward center, front seats
-- powered woofers pointing: "in"
Center: av123 Rocket RSC200 Signature
-- Center channel stand: Sound Anchors Studio CC stand
Side surrounds: av123 Rocket RSS300 dipole
Rear surrounds: av123 Rocket RS250 MkII
-- Ceiling Mounts: Yamaha BWS50-260
Subwoofer: SVS PB12-Ultra/2 (rosewood) (SVS link)
--- 2 plugs = Tuned to 16 Hz. Recalibrated Audyssey Dec 2022 with Denon AVR-2600
--- OLD: 1 plug = Tuned to 20 Hz

Ethernet Switch: TP-Link TL-SG1016 - 16 port Gigabit rack mount switch
Universal remote/lighting/HVAC control: none
HT Seating: Berkline 45088 (Front: 1-2-1, Back: 2 & 2) (from Roman/@rsh)


Other gear:
  • Sony tripod
  • CA183 light meter
  • Radio Shack digital SPL meter
  • Galaxy Audio CM140 SPL meter
  • MS7701B Euro Boom Mic stand & CM-01 adapter for Audyssey microphone
  • for Audyssey calibration - 6581 Black Microphone Gooseneck (19") -
    link
  • temperature (IR) meter
To Do List/Pending/Researching:
  • AVS "What I'd do differently next time thread" - link
  • iPod dock/MA rack connected ????
  • temperature probe/readout - eg link
  • Carada CIH Masquerade -- for a masking solution
  • remote/integration for HT and HVAC and lighting
=== remotecentral.com
---- currently using DirectTV and Oppo iPhone/iPad apps
--- need to read up on RS-232 controls - options
--- (eg, need component control - screen masking (pending), CineSlide, vertical stretch, Lumagen RadianceXE modes (pending))
--- (? can you trigger 2.35:1 button on Lumagen to activate CineSlide - yes, but how do you not activate it when you switch back and forth from 2.35/16:9 modes in Lumagen to look at menus on the bottom of screen)
Options:
--- AMX
----- AMX MVP-8400 (Search Results | AMX Audio Video Control Systems)
----- AMX NI-3100 with ICS (Search Results | AMX Audio Video Control Systems)
--- Control4
--- Crestron
--- iPhone / iPad solutions
--- RTI
--- Universal Remote Control (URC) - link -


Family Room
TV:
Sony 65" A95K
Cable box: None
BR: Oppo BDP-103
CD changer: Sony CDP-C350Z
Tape: Onkyo TA-W450
Surge: Brick Wall PW2RAUD2 & APC AV H10 (Silver)
House Amps (2): Russound CAM6.6 & 6.6T amps, speakers
+ new Russound 2 ch amp for 4 new outdoor under deck speakers
-- amp cooler - link
House speakers: Russound in wall, in ceiling, and outdoor speakers
Powered Blinds: Hunter Douglas
Remote: DirectTV remote
Ethernet: (wired & router = ???)


Other

Office #1 setup

--- Source/Music:
Spotify, Qobuz, or JRiver
--- DAC USB cord: Audioquest Pearl
--- DAC: Schiit Audio Bifrost 2/64
-> Sys (for whole house audio)
--- Surge:
--- Amp:
Chase Home Theater / Tweak City Audio (CHT/TCA) Gizmo v1.0 (orig) integrated class D amp (25WPC x 2 @ 4 ohms)
--- Speakers: CHT/TCA WAF-1 mini-monitors w/ Ninja Elite + No-Rez mod
--- Headphones: AKG K7XX Massdrop First Edition Headphones

Office #2
--- DAC:
Emotiva Stealth DC-1 (24 bit/192 kbps)
--- Source/Music: Spotify, Qobuz, or JRiver
--- Surge: none
--- Amp: none
--- Powered Speakers: Emotiva Airmotiv 4S


--- Other:
Amp:
FiiO A1 Mini 2x14W Class-D Digital Audio Amplifier
DAC2 (travel): LH Labs Geek Out V2A Infinity (SSM / "red" streaming filter for Tidal)
--- HP amp (temporary): Schiit Audio Jotunheim Multibit
--- HP amp #2: Schiit Audio Vali 2

- LH Labs 2014 orders not received: Geek Wave 64, Source 4T fi, Pulse Infinity DAC x2 w/ LightSpeed USB 2G cable x2, GPA S100 w/ sub out


Gym:
--- Source:
Apple TV 4K gen3
--- Power: Surge-X Flat Pak 82, APC AV H15
--- AVR: none
--- TV: Sony 43" X85
--- Cable:
--- BR:
Panasonic


Home Bar:
--- Power:
Surge-X Flat Pak 82
--- TV: Toshiba 42XV540U 1080p LCD
--- Source: Apple TV 4K

Kids Playroom
Power/Surge:
Adcom ACE-515
TV: Vizio P series ____ 50" 4K TV
AVR: Denon 2600 or Sony
Game: XBOX One X - hookup to AVR via optical
Cable/Sat: None
Mains: Infinity RS-4
Center: Infinity HTS-20

Other
DVD/BR Player:
Oppo BDP-80
--- BDP-80 FW (link) updated on: 2-12-10
--- Release date: January 18, 2010.
--- Category: Latest Official Release
--- Main Version: BDP80-10-1230
--- Loader Version: BT0350
--- Sub Version: MCU80-05-0815

Bedroom
DAC/HP: Schiit Audio Jotunheim Multibit

Ethernet distribution
- Cable modem:
Spectrum
- WiFi: ASUS ROG GT-AC5300 x2 (Ai Mesh)
- Ethernet switch (House): Netgear GS108 ProSafe 8-Port Gigabit Ethernet Desktop Switch
- Ethernet switch (MA HT rack - mounted in back):
- NAS: --


Outdoor System
House Amps (3):
Russound CAM6.6 & 6.6T amps
+ new Russound 2 ch amp for 4 new outdoor under deck speakers
Speakers: Russound outdoor speakers - deck, garage
Speakers: 2 pairs of Klipsch (under deck)


Car Audio



More "Other Stuff":

Lumagen RadianceXE and JVC RS20 FW v1.1 Links:
- Lumagen RadianceXE for RS20 calibration (see craigr review in RS20 calibration [CMS v1.0] thread) - May 16 ?
---- Lumagen RadianceXD - manufacturer website
---- AVS thread of Radiance vs. RS20 alone "Would I benefit from a video processor (JVC RS20/Integra 9.9)" (by Zigrivers) - link
----------- Lawguy summary post on that thread - link
-------------- Radiance (vs RS20 v1.1 CMS) +: 1) "...Radiance still has better (easier to use) greyscale and gamma controls..." ; 2) "The Lumagen's scaling and image processing will be better than the RS20's. This would make the biggest difference with SD material. If you watch a lot of SD material, the Radiance is definitely worth it. If you mostly watch HD, the difference will be more modest or maybe not noticable."
-------------- Radiance (vs RS20 v1.1 CMS) -: 1)"The controls on the RS20 now work well. The CMS seems to really be as good as the Radiance's..." ; 2) any visible difference with v1.1 CMS vs . Radiance? ; 3) cost
-------------- Conclusion: So, to answer your question, "if you weren't concerned about budget" then get the Radiance.
---- AVS "Lumagen RadianceXD - Featuring Gennum VXP (!!)" thread - link
---- AVS "Unofficial RadianceXD FAQ" thread (by Dave G., a Badger) - link
- JVC RS20 firmware v1.1 upgrade for improved color management system (CMS) etc. -- see comments in this review and link here JVC MSIS (need to add "exe" extension to file to run) - JVC USA site for FW upgrade: link
Official JVC RS20 / HD750 Calibration and CMS thread...




Future/Next HT Room - What Would I do (differently)?
Room:

  • Larger room
  • Soundproofing - room within a room +/- QuietRock, etc.
  • More attention to design, HVAC (eg intake above rack), lighting, colors (not light carpet), integration, and doors in the back not side
  • Wiring for future proofing (eg balanced lines for powered speakers -- eg Seaton)
  • Wired ethernet
  • More power lines -- at 20A for capacity. 30A ?
  • Acoustics - integrated into wall instead of attached extrinsically with channels to allow changeout of wires
  • Audio - Atmos / Ceiling speakers
  • Carpet - darker (I like Gary's carpet from AVS HT Revealed)
Seating: front with couches/loungers and scattered traditional HT seating, more storage. ? Buttkickers or D-box (at least in a few seats)
Screen: acoustically transparent (AT) screen
Masking system: 4 way masking system -- Carada (no 4-way out yet) vs. other?
Projector: ???
--- (hopefully by then, LED based -- and good lumen output)
Pre: Denon pre vs. a top end AVR
Amps: Emotiva XPR-7/PMA-7350 (350 W/ch x7) vs. ??? (may not be needed if using powered speakers)
http://blog.hometheater.com/cedia201...emotivational/
Sources: Oppo, Streaming Audio sources -- focus on ease of use
Subs: JTR vs Seaton vs. in wall/custom
Speakers: Seaton Catalysts or Sparks vs. JTR vs ???



AV Forum Links
Acoustic Elegance Forum (subwoofers)
AVS Forum
Audioholics Home Theater Forums
Emotiva Lounge
Full Compass (store in Madison, WI area)
Home Theater Shack
Home Theater Spot
Lumagen User ForumMonoprice
Skiing Ninja Forum
Stereo Mojo
Stereophile
Tweak City Audio
Widescreen Review


Quotes:

- Andretti, Mario
“If everything’s under control, you’re probably moving too slow.”

- Cage, John
“If you develop an ear for sounds that are musical it is like developing an ego. You begin to refuse sounds that are not musical and that way cut yourself off from a good deal of experience.”

- Drucker, Peter
"There is nothing so useless as doing efficiently that which should not be done at all."

- Feynman, Richard, American Physicist
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts."

- Holt, J. Gordon
"The better the ad, the worse the product."

- Lang, Michael (about Woodstock)
"The time was right, the place was right, the spirit was right, and we were right.
What resulted was a celebration and confirmation of our humanity -- one of the few instances in history, to my knowledge, when joy became big news."

- Lenin
“The best and quickest way to undermine any society is through it’s music.”

- Mayo, Charles H.
1931 – “It took the world from the day of its creation to the time of the sixteenth century to raise a doubting thomas of sufficient mental strength and courage to state that questions were not answered by authority, but by experiment.”

- Moby
“I had an epiphany a few years ago where I was out at a celebrity party and it suddenly dawned on me that I had yet to meet a celebrity who is as smart and interesting as any of my friends.”

- Nietzsche, Friedrich
"A “scientific” interpretation of the world, as you understand it, might therefore be one of the most stupid of all possible interpretations of the world, meaning that it would be one of the poorest in meaning."
"Without music life would be a mistake."

Pass, Nelson
"We should no more let numbers define audio quality than we should let chemical analysis be the arbiter of fine wines."

- Pauling, Linus
"The first step in applying the scientific method consists in being curious about the world."

- von Recklinghausen, Daniel R.
"If it measures good and sounds bad, -- it is bad.
If it sounds good and measures bad, -- you've measured the wrong thing."

- Sharma, Chris
“In Zen they talk about keeping a beginner’s mind and experiencing each moment fresh and completely open without the hindrances of expectations and regret.

"The expert’s mind thinks it knows everything and therefore sets up extra standards that are not really necessary.”

- Young, Neal (in Stereophile June 2015 p.137) "Latest ideas show that music probably came before language, which in turn led to our culture. In many ways, music is what being human is all about. We have a primordial need to make, receive, and share music. Without it, we are incomplete."

Headphones:
Aeon Flow Closed
HiFiMan HE-560 (via Geek/LH Labs bundle) x2 (screw in cables) + - Moon Audio Blue Dragon V3 balanced cable
- stock
AKG K7XX Massdrop First Edition Headphones
Audio-Technica ATH-Pro500MK2 (Massdrop)
Meze

IEMs:
iBasso IT04
Campfire Audio Orion & Vega

Sieveking Omega Headphone Stand (Zebrano) - from Massdrop
 
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#228 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by funlvr1965 /forum/post/16615982


What do you mean near perfect, it IS perfect..... had to jab ya on that one Tony

Wayne -


Waiting for your "15 minutes of fame" version 2 update thread.



Mike
 
#229 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_WI /forum/post/16617162


Wayne -


Waiting for your "15 minutes of fame" version 2 update thread.



Mike

Well got slowed down a bit with the surgery I talked about before,then I had to dash to Florida because my dad was also in the hospital. Now im back and hittin the ground running, things are coming along though. Got a couple of neat things for the rack too
 
#230 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by funlvr1965 /forum/post/16617459


Well got slowed down a bit with the surgery I talked about before,then I had to dash to Florida because my dad was also in the hospital. Now im back and hittin the ground running, things are coming along though. Got a couple of neat things for the rack too

Roger, roger.

While interested in your whole project, I will be really interested in your wire management techniques as my rack is a mess.


Good luck.



Mike
 
#231 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_WI /forum/post/16618525


Roger, roger.

While interested in your whole project, I will be really interested in your wire management techniques as my rack is a mess.


Good luck.



Mike

Mike I think the trick to wire management is to think about it from the start, I got some Mid atlantic LBA horizontal brackets for cable management, we will see how that goes, fabric tracks are up and hopefully we get the fabric mounted today, room is still a mess and tools everywhere and I dream of the day this place is put back together again. The major construction ie..walls,door framing projector booth dvd cabinets...etc are done but reinstalling everything and setting things back up is going to be like starting all over again...
 
#232 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_WI /forum/post/16618525


Roger, roger.

While interested in your whole project, I will be really interested in your wire management techniques as my rack is a mess.


Good luck.



Mike

Mike, I have no idea how messy is messy, but I'd look into techflex as one possible aid. Even Amazon sells some of their stuff. It's used to bundle cables.
 
#233 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by jostenmeat /forum/post/16622719


Mike, I have no idea how messy is messy, but I'd look into techflex as one possible aid. Even Amazon sells some of their stuff. It's used to bundle cables.

jostenmeat -


Thanks.

Looks helpful... (Amazon
link )






I think one issue is the rack pulls out from the wall and rotates.

The components that are connected to each other can be "tightened up" in their connections now that my tweaking is (nearly) done.

But cords/wires connected to the back wall need laxity for the pull out and rotate.


I'll see what Wayne has cooked up at his setup regarding MA rack equipment to help with wire management.

He's pretty creative.


I still need to add:

- Carada CIH masking system

- automation/remote for system and HVAC/lighting

- XBOX360 Elite with Jasper chip

- more light conrol around window (despite black blind)

Stuff arriving soon:

- HT seats (8) - today!

- Center channel stand - "soon"

To Do:

- re-run Audyssey when seats and stand in

- get Denon GUI signal "out" to Lumagen to display -- currently some handshake issues


Mike
 
#234 ·
I'm at work, but these were delivered today.


My wife took some iPhone pics.

Better pics later...


- Mike


 
#236 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOWK /forum/post/16633607


Mike the picture did not come through.

SOWK -


Thanks.


It worked for me initially when I loaded and pulled up on the web.

Weird.



I think I fixed it in the original post.


One of the HT seat power controllers didn't work.

Email going out to rsh/Roman now...


Mike

 
#237 ·
Here are some more pics.

Not sure how much better than my wife's quick iPhone pics, but...








Mike


PS - my center channel stand is supposed to ship out tomorrow.

PS2 - HDMI handshake issues with Denon output to RadianceXE solved by using a component connection. Not a big deal since only needed for Denon GUI, Net connection, etc. (so HDMI not really needed).

 
#240 ·
Chief RPMA Elite mount to JVC RS20 with CineSlide and ISCOIIIL in front.

(some people were asking some mounting questions, so I thought I'd post this).


Mike

 
#241 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt C /forum/post/16666469


Awesome shelving!

Matt C and ldgibson76 -


Thanks.


The shelving was designed by Rives Audio -- a 17 degree angle I believe -- to work as a diffractor and for storage.

My carpenter Jim built it for me.

Very smart to design your furniture for audio.

The final finish looks great. Even my wife likes it.



Mike


PS - Next time I need new carpet (eg after multiple 1yo vomits on carpet, etc), I'll talk to Wayne (funlvr1965). He has some great pics.
 
#242 ·
Any ideas on outdoor speakers?



Here are some links where I was discussing my search for outdoor speakers:

- Seaton Sound - link

- TCA - link

- Home Theater Spot - link


Here is an old picture of my back/side yard near deck.

(Now we have grass in...
)





I'm looking for adding and/or replacing in the following areas:

- garage (small Russounds out there now)

- deck (small Russounds out there now)

- deck sides x2 sets of two (nothing there now but wired)


Here is a good AVS link (from 2006) with some info:
Link

- Proficient - made by Speakercraft

- don't believe FR specs from manufacturer

- get >6" woofers for outdoors (or presumably a dedicated outdoor sub)


Some links:

- OSD - link

- Axiom - link

- smarthome.com

- AVHiFiOnline store

- parts-express.com - link

- James Loudspeakers

4 ohm amps

- James RMX series - link



These look interesting H15 ($170 each) or H14 ($130 each) or H11 ($130 each) -- but I would need 2 sets of 2 = 4.

(which is okay).


For those prices I could just get two to test and play with and buy more if needed.

Also there is a sub...
HF25



I don't believe any of the outdoor speaker FR quoted by manufacturers.

Very few reviews that I've seen though.


. All-Weather Versatility tree trunk rock bass

. Teflon-sealed Fiber Reinforced Polyester aerospace grade cabinetry

. 8" black polypropylene cone with a rubber surround

. Power handling: 250W

. Frequency Response 20Hz - 200Hz

. Sensitivity 89db

. Unit Dimension:20"L x 20"W x 15"H

. UnitWeight: 30 lbs

. 3-year warranty

. Sold in single




Mike


EDIT:
A compilation of some options:
(not all inclusive)
- Acoustic Research
- Atlantic Technology
- Axiom - eg Axiom Algonquin - link
- B&W LM1
- Boston - eg Boston Voyager 7
- Definitive Technology - eg, Def tech AW6500 - review - link
- James Loudspeaker
- JBL - eg JBL S36AWII
- Klipsch - eg Klipsch AW-400
- Niles
- Polk Audio - eg Polk Audio Atrium 60 All Weather Speakers
- Proficient Audio - eg, Proficient audio A830 Ultra
- Rockustics - eg - Rockustics Tunestone outdoor speakers - link
- Russound
- Speakercraft
- Tannoy

Outdoor subwoofer thread (at TCA): link
 
#243 ·
This is an interesting post from David Giles of Carada:


(see post #50 of this thread - Carada CIH Masking System Anticipation Thread )


-----------------------------------------------------

Well folks, I have good news and bad news. The bad news is that there will be a short delay in the release of the Masquerade CIH. We'd hoped to hit our target ship date of June 22, but it's going to take a few more weeks.

Now the GOOD news is that the Masquerade CIH is going to be even BETTER than previously imagined. I mentioned in another thread a few months ago that we had decided to develop the CIH system as a single-motor platform (with the possibility of a higher cost 2-motor option). Well we've had the single-motor production model running for a few weeks now and it looks absolutely beautiful and runs flawlessly, and any home theater enthusiast would be proud to have one in their theater. BUT after much agonizing over the pros/cons of the single-motor design we've decided to switch exclusively to a 2-motor design (i.e. a single-motor option won't be offered). The 2-motor system will be more capable, more precise, more reliable, and easier to install (and is going to drive our competitors crazy!
) In that same thread from earlier this year I mentioned that a mid-sized single-motor system should come in under $4K. Of course the 2-motor system will necessarily be a bit more expensive, but I don't think anyone will mind the small increase in cost considering what you get. Now a mid-size 2-motor system will come in around $4,200, and a whopping 10' wide system will be about $4,500 (plus shipping).

Fortunately the system is about 98% engineered already and making the changes to a 2-motor system aren't as drastic as one might think so the delay isn't going to be too bad. Summer officially starts on June 22 and depending on your definition of early we might still make the early summer target.
I know customers who've been eagerly awaiting this system would like something a little more concrete than that, and although I can't give an EXACT date I can offer some estimates:

Ship within the next 3-4 weeks - 75% confidence

Ship within the next 5-6 weeks - 90% confidence

Ship before the end of the summer - 100% confidence

We will be posting prices on our website within a week and will begin taking pre-orders at that time.

David Giles
Carada, Inc.


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A little more expensive than anticipated, but much cheaper than the competition.


Mike
 
#244 ·
My SA CC stand arrived.



See notes and pics below.


- Mike

Sound Anchors - Center Channel Stands
http://www.soundanchors.com/page60.html

Studio CC Stand

from $320

adj height

adj tilt

custom sized



Comments:

Customer Service

- multiple emails going over details in a timely manner before order

- followup emails discussing filler material

- I had to call to get delivery day, but not that big of a deal

Packing

- 2 boxes

- very well packed

PRO

- beefy design - eg hardened steel, hex bolts, industrial design

- custom made to specs for your CC speaker

- height adjustable (but I wouldn't do it a lot)

- tilt adjustable

- stands fillable (eg shot, sand, etc)

- spikes for bottom

CON

- cost

- "custom" - not "off the shelf" so takes a little longer - although now they have an av123 RSC200 template for any future buyers

- adjusting height can scrape finish on the side (so I wouldn't adjust a lot)

- no wire management

(...but then again neither did my folding chairs...
)



Pics below...


- Mike















* EDIT *
- added comments on CS and packing (above)
PS - The tilt (set using a laser guide) was only about 5 degrees
PS2 - No filler or floor spikes in yet.




 
#246 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by bmonlycg /forum/post/16686614


looking good. I hear ya with the con on wire management. Is there anyway you can put an audio wall plate behind it? And the cost! but like i said its looking great. everything is really coming together well. I love the new seating btw.

Thanks.

I was thinking of making a hole in the false wall behind the CC speaker and having the wire come directly out of the wall into the speaker -- so not seen at all.

It's on the "To Do" list.



Kids are asleep and wife out - so I'm listening to some David Gilmour BR concert.

Nice.


Tomorrow will likely be an Audyssey MultEQ(xt) re-calibration now with some changes:

- L/R not as toed in

- CC speaker off the floor and on a stand

- 8 HT seats in place - will effect acoustics.



Mike
 
#250 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Happytobehere200 /forum/post/16697538


Center Stand - Very Nice Mike. Looks outstanding. Great choice. With the height you raised it to, and the tilt, how is the overall stability?

Very stable.

The spikes should also help (not on yet).

I may not need any "filler". That is a backburner issue now.



Mike
 
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