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post #31 of 527 Old 12-31-2008, 11:45 PM - Thread Starter
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Hello Mike.

Happy New year to you and family.

Mike, I just want to say that although this is my first post in your thread, I have been observing the thread since you first appeared on the scene, and I must say, you have a very impressive audio/video ensemble. It's not a setup, it's an ensemble! To call it a set up would be bordering on an insult!
And the Rockets! Man, they look good! When do you think you will finish the theater completely, if there is such a concept?!

Regards.

ldgibson -
Happy New Year to you as well!


Thanks for the compliments.
Your pics of your system look nice as well.
When I was in High School (long ago) a friend of mine who had more money than me had a Denon/Klipsch system, so for a long time I thought that was "the" system/brands to get.
His subsequent trashing of his gear notwithstanding, it's still good stuff.

I hope to have the following done for my HT along something like this timeline:

This Month:
- Fri - Projector arrives (JVC RS20 1080p - through AVS)
- next Wed - projector installed
- before Superbowl

- bar TV installed with cable box
- XBOX360 (Jasper)
- 2.35:1 screen (see my separate searching for a screen thread)

"Soon" (months):
- HT seating
- ISCOIIIL anamorphic lens and CineSlide installed
- calibration
- Oppo BDP83 Blu Ray player (EAP or normal product)
- WD 1TB My DVR Expander added to SA8300HD DVR (currently only a 500GB WD HD is available)

Sometime:
- Wii
- ? Emotiva MPS-2 power amp
- rack mounted tape deck for all of those old bootlegs
- integration with NAS HD or other music server


I'm sure the "ensemble" will always be evolving, but my relatives visit for the Superbowl is kicking me into gear to get more done faster. I'm picking up to additional cable boxes on Sat and looking at HT seating (again) on Sat (Berkline 088's on a sale).

Enjoy your day...

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Mike, please check your RS20 once you receive it Friday, and make sure you are not one of the customers with "stuck" lens shift mechanisms.

SOWK -

Vertical shift is STUCK!


Thanks for heads up.
I emailed Jason to arrange an exchange.
Getting into a time crunch for exchange, install, and screen purchase/install.


Thanks.

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HT Seats I'm looking at:

From Roman (rsh @ AVS)...

Private Collection Ovation 3033
w/ individual chair buttkickers


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I decided I couldnt wait on the Toshiba Regza SRT 42XV545U from Amazon.
Relatives are coming over for football today, so I put my 42XV540U in the bar.
No mount, just on stand.

Looks great.
Pics later.

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Vertical shift is STUCK!


Thanks for heads up.
I emailed Jason to arrange an exchange.
Getting into a time crunch for exchange, install, and screen purchase/install.


Thanks.

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Jason sent out a new RS20 today.
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I decided I couldnt wait on the Toshiba Regza SRT 42XV545U from Amazon.
Relatives are coming over for football today, so I put my 42XV540U in the bar.
No mount, just on stand.

Looks great.
Pics later.

Mike

Bad iPhone pic, but you get the idea


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After a lot looking and reading...

I'll be ordering my HT seating today.
Eight Private Collection - 3033 - Ovations.


L = left
R = right
S = straight 2 arm

BACK:

IOIOI IOIOI
L S S R

FRONT:

IOIOOIO1
L L R R


Roman - Thanks for all of your help and tolerating all of my questions.

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Hey Mike, since it is too cold up there to watch movies you can just send your stuff to my house where it is warm. j/k nice setup. Love the look of those rockets.
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Hello Mike!

Just in case some of the posters on this thread haven't had the opportunity to see your very formidable speaker system, i just took it upon myself to show them what a insanely beautiful speaker system looks like!



I hope you do not mind the liberty I took posting the photo.
And BTW, the bar looks great! The Toshiba looks nice up there!

Regards.

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Hey Mike, since it is too cold up there to watch movies you can just send your stuff to my house where it is warm. j/k nice setup. Love the look of those rockets.

Ha!

The low is expected to be -17 (w/o windchill calculated in...).
I hope my installer shows up to mount my projector tonight!

Thanks.

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Hello Mike!

Just in case some of the posters on this thread haven't had the opportunity to see your very formidable speaker system, i just took it upon myself to show them what a insanely beautiful speaker system looks like!



I hope you do not mind the liberty I took posting the photo.
And BTW, the bar looks great! The Toshiba looks nice up there!

Regards.

Thanks!

Thats an old one when I first got my rockets and before I had the surrounds mounted or the rack equipment in.

I should update with a pic tonight with a "white sheet" as my screen pre and post JVC RS20 mounting on the ceiling.
I'm looking for a screen and trying various samples.

More soon...

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PS - My ISCO IIIL anamorphic lens is in the mail now. That should be fun to play with as well.
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My JVC RS20 projector is now ceiling mounted on a Chief RPMA Elite.

Let me ask you about this.
Time for installer to arrive at home was 4pm.
I took off work early to get home.
He arrives at 4:30pm.
Does job okay except doesn't have a stud finder, bolts for mounting, etc.
My carpenter who was visiting to help figure out a front wall screen/masking solution drives to a hardware store to pick up drywall bolts for the guy.
He bills me for a 1 hour drive to arrive at my house (eg start time at 3:30p) and a total of 2.25 hours to install a simple ceiling mount.
The HT store I asked to do the install is in my same (small) town, about 10 min away.
I told the guy that he could have driven in from Chicago or LA, but that has nothing to do with the work he did at my house.

Anyway...

My carpenter suggested building a partial false front wall in front of (if you look at pics) the current opening in soffit for a potential drop down screen.
That would allow a sturdy structure for mounting a screen and masking system as well as allow electrical (+cable+phone+ethernet) cabinet access.
See the Carada Masquerade masking system thread and my screen thread if you want to see all the ideas I was generating.

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Now for the drywall (and taping, sanding, taping, painting...)

...and picking a screen...

Mike

PS - ISCOIIIL arrived - still in box


HT room partial false wall framing

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Nice way to fly the speakers what kind of mounts are those??
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I've decided to get a Carada 128" 2.4:1 BW MMS screen with Masquerade.
I "won" my screen at Home Theater Spot -- so no cost to me.
I could just do the Criterion and save some money and likely be very happy, but I figure I'll just "do it all" upfront.
There is an opportunity cost -- my time/attention, WAF!! , getting help with the install (cost & time).

I will try to pull off my combo screen/mask install before the Superbowl (about 15-20 people driving and flying to my house), so if it looks better that would be great.
The $2.5K+ price _IS_ a lot without a doubt, but I think I'll just go for it now with the "easier" MMS screen to attach to it.
If money was more limiting I would likely do your approach.
(Not that I don't care about money, especially after buying a projector, screen, bar TV, eight HT seats, ISCOIIIL and CineSlide within a few months! )

I unpacked my ISCOIIIL and CineSled last night -- wow, that's a lot of glass!
But I need some wood, paint, and CineSled legs (pending) to mount.
More on all that and updaed pics at a later date.

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Nice way to fly the speakers what kind of mounts are those??

The rear surrounds?

Here is a cut-and-paste from someone elses post:
Yamaha:
http://www.fullcompass.com/product/285742.htm
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I used this Yamaha mount for ceiling mounting my 250s: http://www.fullcompass.com/product/285742.html
I made an adapter plate that uses the threaded inserts in the base and "hung" them upside down to avoid screwing the mount directly into the speaker. I believe AV123 may have such a plate used for stand mounting for sale.

The mount can be swiveled in pretty much all directions and mine are currently mounted sideways so the length of the speaker is parallel to the ceiling (bashed my head into them one too many times). This keeps them more or less tucked up and out of the way.
DISCLAIMER: The threaded inserts are not designed to take this kind of load and will pull out of the base of the speaker under load unless epoxied in place (I used JB Weld). On my speakers it was fairly easy to "press" them out of the base, apply epoxy, and press them back in. I also use a safety strap looped through the terminal and over the mount. YMMV in the extreme.

Here is a link to my thread trying to figure out a mount to use (with pics).

*EDIT* AV123 link is obvious broken and info lost now.



Good luck, see my caveats, and post some pics...

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I just talked to David Giles @ Carada today and ordered:

Carada Criterion Brilliant White (BW) screen
128 diagonal
2.40:1 aspect ratio

I had my credit card out and he told me I didn't need it -- even for shipping!
(if you recall I had "won" a screen at Home Theater Spot -- still no shipping!)

Anyway, I felt bad about not getting the Masquerade masking system, but given all the talk above I think I will "hold out" for the CIH masking system should it ever appear.
I think Carada would get a lot of business if they came out with it.
I'd be on the pre-order list for sure.

Thanks again for everyones comments.
I obviously missed some details about the vertical system.

Drywaller coming today to work on my new false wall...

Mike

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I've decided to get a Carada 128" 2.4:1 BW MMS screen with Masquerade.
I "won" my screen at Home Theater Spot -- so no cost to me.
I could just do the Criterion and save some money and likely be very happy, but I figure I'll just "do it all" upfront.
There is an opportunity cost -- my time/attention, WAF!! , getting help with the install (cost & time).

I will try to pull off my combo screen/mask install before the Superbowl (about 15-20 people driving and flying to my house), so if it looks better that would be great.
The $2.5K+ price _IS_ a lot without a doubt, but I think I'll just go for it now with the "easier" MMS screen to attach to it.
If money was more limiting I would likely do your approach.
(Not that I don't care about money, especially after buying a projector, screen, bar TV, eight HT seats, ISCOIIIL and CineSlide within a few months! )

I unpacked my ISCOIIIL and CineSled last night -- wow, that's a lot of glass!
But I need some wood, paint, and CineSled legs (pending) to mount.
More on all that and updaed pics at a later date.

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I unpacked my ISCOIIIL and CineSled last night

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Now for the drywall (and taping, sanding, taping, painting...)

...and picking a screen...

Mike

PS - ISCOIIIL arrived - still in box

Hello Mike.

I can't believe you started on the false wall so quickly. I'm sure it's going to look great when finished!

Regards.

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CineSLIDE

Man!
Tough crowd!


That was an excited fast typing typo.
I should have some measurements and pics for you in the next few days for the legs.



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Hello Mike.

I can't believe you started on the false wall so quickly. I'm sure it's going to look great when finished!

Regards.

Me neither!
The drywaller was supposed to come today.
If that is done it will be "almost" like a screen.
It's coming together.

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Wow, a 128" screen, and free, no less!? That sounds awesome. I can't wait to see the pictures when that's installed.
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Wow, a 128" screen, and free, no less!? That sounds awesome. I can't wait to see the pictures when that's installed.

128" 2.40:1 equals about 102" 16:9 if I recall correctly, but yeah, nice!
My wife really liked the price of "free".
Again, Carada and David Giles really treated me good.
They even offered to give me the equivalent Carada credit (eg for a masking system) if I bough a different brand screen.
Man, they were just so cool.

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128" 2.40:1 equals about 102" 16:9 if I recall correctly, but yeah, nice!
My wife really liked the price of "free".
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Ah, well that does shrink it down a bit. I imagine you are going for a constant height screen, so as the aspect ratio becomes more square, you come in at the sides but the height remains the same? We're used to the opposite, using a constant width and adjustable height. So, I'm using to thinking in width only. Our screen is only 72" wide, which makes for about 82" 16:9. But when you get a 2.35:1 movie on your screen, it will be huge compared to ours!
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Ah, well that does shrink it down a bit. I imagine you are going for a constant height screen, so as the aspect ratio becomes more square, you come in at the sides but the height remains the same? We're used to the opposite, using a constant width and adjustable height. So, I'm using to thinking in width only. Our screen is only 72" wide, which makes for about 82" 16:9. But when you get a 2.35:1 movie on your screen, it will be huge compared to ours!

Yep.
CIH.
Anyway you slice it and dice it -- it's pretty big.
There are bigger, but this should do fine for my room.
Any bigger and I would likely need an accoustically transparent (AT) screen for speaker placement.

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No drywaller yesterday, so no movies last night.
He is at the house now and going to use some fast "mud" to get it all done tonight.
No texturizing/knockdown planned.
Plan is to paint this weekend and ??? screen up next week.
Any recs on a base paint and FLAT black paint.

I may post some screen samples pics after I shrink size and Photoshop with arrows to each sample type.

I'll also post some ISCOIII anamorphic lens pics since I haven't seen some pics of how those are mailed out...

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Ordered from Scott at TechHT.
See that link for more info, prices, etc.
My CineSlide is b-stock but cosmetic blemish is not seen in these pics.

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Projector: JVC RS20
Mount: Ceiling
Throw distance: ~15 ft
Lens aperture: -8
Lamp: normal
Setting: Cinema 1 (uncalibrated)
Gamma: normal
Camera: (Nikon Coolpix) – mounted under projector on a tripod (no flash)
Movie: Casino Royale (BR) from Samsung 1500 BR

Screen backdrop – a thin white sheet
Vertical lines “behind” sheet are studs for false front wall – not dry walled yet.
Gains are “as advertised”

Known biases: I won a free Carada screen at Home Theater Spot, so that did bias me.
Other: Vutec never got me their Silver Screen (SS) sample to test.

Left samples (top to bottom):
Da-Lite (DL) High Contrast (gain 1.1)
DL Cinema Vision (gain 1.3)
DL Pearlescent (gain 1.5)
DL JKP (gain 0.9)

Center samples (top to bottom:
DL Da-Mat (gain 1.0)
DL High Power (HP) (gain 2.8)

Right samples (top to bottom:
Carada Cinema Vision (gain 1.0)
Carada Brilliant White (BW) (gain 1.4)
Carada High Contrast Grey (gain 0.8)


I realize this is not a technical evaluation, etc.

I can photoshop "arrows" of the various screen samples, but I think you can see them okay.

Mike

EDIT:
Here is a link to some measurements from someone else - link.

EDIT (embedded pics)...

Sheet with samples



Samples and Samsung screen


Casino Royale - water



Bahamas - Atlantis Hotel



Casino Royale - face pic


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Casino Royale...


Night boat shot



Words


Face closeup



Grass & water shot


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