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That's the one. But Chief did change the "buttons" on those mounts at some point. Don't remember when but you need to be sure you get the plate with the right buttons on it so it locks properly.
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@GetGray -

Thanks for the input.
Let me call Chief and see if the Chief SLM281 works with the 1st gen RMPA(U). I presume it should.
Fastest way to get up and running would be to just get that.
The Chief -> Milo link makes me create a dealer account: https://www.milestone.com/my%20account

The Amazon link has a delay.
Would love to get ASAP to mount.

It may be hard to have a new ceiling base as it is screwed into wood in ceiling not a pipe or other standard fixture.
Certainly worth $100 to get it installed fast and then think about these other issues for next projector in a few years.

I was also wondering about:
1. positioning of JVC RS520 vs. RS20 relative to CineSlide and ISCOIIIL anamorphic lens
RS520 and RS20 are about similar length, so may still work okay
2. Do I need anamorphic lens with new projectors having memory modes for that and using the Lumagen Pro?
If I sold both of those should help finance the recent HT updates.


I may message you soon.
I think I have your email address.

Mike
Personally, I'll be keeping my lens. because:
1- You need every photon you can get for HDR
2. I think using a Lumagen and no lens is the worst of all worlds. All your 16:9 content is downscaled to a lower resolution so you get scaled image and lack of panel. Better off to zoom for 2.35 IMO.
3. The market for them is weak, so the keep it proposition is high IMO

As for the mount I forget when they went lens in the middle. After that I think the case stayed the same. If the Old PJ has the offset lens (off to one side), then something would have to move.
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I called Chief.

RPMA (O) not (U)
Can't get longer brackets.
Can't buy just one through Milestone.

SLM281 should mount to top piece of 1st generation.
1st gen and later are interchangeable.

@GetGray -

Can I ask you to order a SLM281 for me.
Can switch to email/phone for details.


Thanks!

Mike

PS - @SOWK - will think about options for a shelf mount in the future.

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Personally, I'll be keeping my lens. because:
1- You need every photon you can get for HDR
2. I think using a Lumagen and no lens is the worst of all worlds. All your 16:9 content is downscaled to a lower resolution so you get scaled image and lack of panel. Better off to zoom for 2.35 IMO.
3. The market for them is weak, so the keep it proposition is high IMO

As for the mount I forget when they went lens in the middle. After that I think the case stayed the same. If the Old PJ has the offset lens (off to one side), then something would have to move.
Thanks!

I think the RS20 is off center and RS520 on center (?).
So that's why a shelf would allow projector movement as the setup for CineSlide and ISCOIIIL was a big arbeit.
If I get the new Chief SLM281 plate I can at least see how things are working without and potentially with ISCO.

Will email you.

Mike

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Personally, I'll be keeping my lens. because:
1- You need every photon you can get for HDR
2. I think using a Lumagen and no lens is the worst of all worlds. All your 16:9 content is downscaled to a lower resolution so you get scaled image and lack of panel. Better off to zoom for 2.35 IMO.
3. The market for them is weak, so the keep it proposition is high IMO

As for the mount I forget when they went lens in the middle. After that I think the case stayed the same. If the Old PJ has the offset lens (off to one side), then something would have to move.
1. Personally I think HDR is near worthless on any realistic sized front projection screen. But your statement is accurate.
2. He can use the lens memory feature for 16:9 content without having to scale the image in the lumagen.
3. This is also an accurate statement. He would not get much for the lens/slide.
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Thumbs up Thanks for input all...

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1. Personally I think HDR is near worthless on any realistic sized front projection screen. But your statement is accurate.
2. He can use the lens memory feature for 16:9 content without having to scale the image in the lumagen.
3. This is also an accurate statement. He would not get much for the lens/slide.
Thanks.
Chief plate ordered from Scott / @GetGray .
Will see how that works and go from there.

I will have time before professional calibration (Craig, @CIR-Engineering ) -- with expected FW updates from Lumagen and Oppo -- before deciding on if ceiling mount works or I need to move CS/ISCO, take it out, or build a shelf.


Mike

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Chief plate arriving Mon, 2/6/17.

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Smile JVC RS520 installed

JVC RS520 installed with new Chief plate.
Relatively easy to install.
Limited space for power plugs next to rear column compared to JVC RS20.

@GetGray -
May need a primer again on how to position the CineSlide/ISCOIIIL combo.
Lens now needs to be moved for new projector.

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Quick Zoom/Shift/Focus and setting on "Cinema" looks great with a blu ray.
Haven't tried a UHD yet.
May try one with 16:9 first.

Also ordered 3D emitter and 5 glasses today.
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EDIT:

Hmm, as I think about it, maybe I can't/shouldn't move the CineSlide/ISCO as it is centered for the screen.
May need to build that projector shelf after all.
Haven't experimented with the anamoprhic setting on RS520 much yet.

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Reading the RS520 manual:
http://pro.jvc.com/pro/attributes/PR...017_manual.pdf
p.51
Doesn't seem that I need the anamorphic button on the JVC remote given that I have a Lumagen Radiance Pro.
I guess I need to think about lens memory modes for:
16:9 TV/movie
2:40:1 movies

With different zoom (+/- shift) and focus settings saved?

Mike

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3D emitter and glasses arrived. Unpacked but didn't test yet.

Oppo UDP-203 36-0122 Beta Test Firmware link from Oppo and installed.
Played a little with the HDR slider.
Changed Lumagen Radiance Pro HDR from Off (for prior JVC RS20) to "Auto" and tried HDR.
Too dark, but still interesting and impressive.

4K source was Oppo with Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children.
Some muted colors and 16:9, but hope to try soon with other movies in 2.35:1 (zoom, no ISCO for now) and also 3D.


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Watched a 3D BR (Avengers - Ultron) last night with the kids.
3D started off gimicky feeling, but was better after eyes/brain acclimated to it.
Kids loved it.
I haven't tried a 4K (UHD) 3D title.
Suggestions?

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