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Old 05-24-2009, 02:31 PM - Thread Starter
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HTB200 -

Dude, you could start your own "Speaker stand filler" thread.
Good stuff.

A 5/21 email from Sound Anchor (good email updates/customer service so far...):

(bold added by me)

"I have three more solutions for you.

If you're concerned about the dust and dirt you can get washed and graded silica sand for about eight dollars per 50 pound bag. The primary use for this sand is sandblasting so it may be sold in your part of the country as sandblasting sand. It is sold in different mesh sizes. Another type of sand that is super clean is the sand that they put in ashtrays in restaurant and hotel lobbies.

Another completely different solution is Kitty litter. Fine-grained unscented Kitty litter is generally dust free, readily available and cheap. Kitty litter is made of clay it is fairly inert and has good damping qualities."


I may wait until I get the stands and play with moving them around some and then decide on a solution.

I'll try to explore Gander Mountain, etc. for options.



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Here's what I've used and pros/cons - personal viewpoint.

* Special stuff - tried 2 different things many years ago. While I felt cool it wasn't worth the $

* Cat Liter - Filled speaker pedastals with this. Put a garbage back in stand and pored it in. worked well but dusty and created a mess later in life when I need to make some changes and the bags torn. But for Large Volumes it was a better value the other stuff. Not as dense but good value.

* Sand - I actuall did this before the cat litter and ran into moisture issue. My stuff was in the basement and even though it was a walk out the humidity was high and it caused real problems with rusting a rod that was in the pedastal and warped it. That's what let me to cat liter and bagging.

* Lead shot - We've discussed. BTW, you can get it at Gander Moutain in large bags. I used one per pedastal. Don't know what the cubic size would be compared to yours.

* Steel shot - look at it at Dick's sporting goods and Gander. These are basicailly bb's for bb guns. It was more expensive than lead and I'm not an evironmentalist

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Some quick comments...

- Lumagen RadianceXE installed
- JVC RS20 calibrated by Craig Rounds (Craigr) yesterday with both FW v1.1 CMS and with Lumagen RadianceXE. I hope he makes some comments on the differences, but I'll leave that to him.
- Samsung BDP1500 moved out of MA rack since uneeded with the Oppo BDP-83
- Oppo BDP-83 sounds!!! as well as looks great. User interface is very nice. Still more impressions pending.


I'll post some pre/post calibration info for those interested later, but the calibration does make a noticeable improvement.
I haven't been able to watch much material since it was finished, but it looks amazing -- and didn't look bad "out of the box" in THX mode.

Next jobs:
- center channel stand (comments and pics coming)
- improve ethernet to gigabit around the house
- clean up MA rack and "push back" into the wall
- XBOX360 (Jasper)
- install WD 1TB hard drive into rack
- FW update on Lumagen RadianceXE - judder issues with 24fps forced mode
- masking system - ? Carada (see my anticipation thread)
- HT seats - on order
- more Audyssey calibration after HT seats, etc. in place
- remote/integration (likely after my wife gets to spend some money elsewhere in the house) - AMX, Control4, ???


Then, sit back and chill out for a while...


Mike

PS - And then help some friends with THEIR HT situations. Where I can give ideas and not spend money.

*EDIT*
Some Calibration Report numbers...

Before Calibration:
(rounded to 1 decimal point)

IRE - dE
10 - 15.8
20 - 15.9
30 - 17.2
40 - 16.0
50 - 16.7
60 - 14.2
70 - 15.2
80 - 12.6
90 - 13.1
100 - 11.5



After Calibration:
IRE - dE
10 - 0.4
20 - 1.1
30 - 1.2
40 - 0.5
50 - 0.2
60 - 0.2
70 - 0.6
80 - 0.1
90 - 0.2
100 - 0.5


Here are some calibration images.
Hopefully more later with pre/post charts, etc.

Mike

PRE Calibration
80% - JVC RS20 FW v1.1 - THX Setting




POST Calibration
80% - JVC RS20 FW v1.1 - Lumagen RadianceXE

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Some more files with pre-/post results.
(thanks craigr -- for sending out on a Sunday holiday weekend)
I think the only thing missing is a pre-/post gamma image.


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PS - Some day I'll get the tripod up to take some pics of the screen.
My rack needs to be pushed back and the door closed to get rid of the extra light from all of the lights.

 

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HTB200 -

Dude, you could start your own "Speaker stand filler" thread.
Good stuff.

I think you are the only person I've ever told that I've tried all that stuff. The geek in me came through. Have no idea why I became so fixated on this other than it took no skill to try it, which, when it comes to DIY stuff, I have none.

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A 5/21 email from Sound Anchor (good email updates/customer service so far...):

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"I have three more solutions for you.

If you're concerned about the dust and dirt you can get washed and graded silica sand for about eight dollars per 50 pound bag. The primary use for this sand is sandblasting so it may be sold in your part of the country as sandblasting sand. It is sold in different mesh sizes. Another type of sand that is super clean is the sand that they put in ashtrays in restaurant and hotel lobbies.

Another completely different solution is Kitty litter. Fine-grained unscented Kitty litter is generally dust free, readily available and cheap. Kitty litter is made of clay it is fairly inert and has good damping qualities."


I may wait until I get the stands and play with moving them around some and then decide on a solution.

I'll try to explore Gander Mountain, etc. for options.



Mike

Man, I like these guys too. Very good ideas. If you ever find that sand they mention let me know where you find it. Have been thinking about refilling some pedastals and it also sounds like it might be good for filling a stage - if the price is right. Looking forward to seeing this thing in place...
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HTBH200 -
Good to have your info.
Geek it up -- look where you are posting!
My local Home Depot didn't have any of those sands, just sandbox/play sand.
I'll keep digging around.

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I think you are the only person I've ever told that I've tried all that stuff. The geek in me came through. Have no idea why I became so fixated on this other than it took no skill to try it, which, when it comes to DIY stuff, I have none.



Man, I like these guys too. Very good ideas. If you ever find that sand they mention let me know where you find it. Have been thinking about refilling some pedastals and it also sounds like it might be good for filling a stage - if the price is right. Looking forward to seeing this thing in place...

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I'm hunting for an XBOX 360 Elite with the new Jasper chip.

It appears they don't have them at Amazon.
My local BB has an older model (non-Jasper).

I know the red edition elite does have the Jasper, but they are now out at Amazon (for Amazon Prime) and I'd rather have black.

I emailed CS at Newegg.com.

RE: (from an AVS post)
"I haven't seen much news of the Black Elites switching over to Jasper yet. But like its been mentioned before, its easy to tell just buy looking through the flap on the box where it shows the serial #, just to the left of that is the amp rating-12.1 is what you are looking for."

Also, an old post on AnandTech:
"the models are any that mfr after September.
like XGX-00038,XGX-00019,the elite FAA-00019.type that google or ask for this on newegg.com"

...hence my email to newegg

Any other ideas?

Thanks.

Mike


*EDIT*
Newegg customer service wasn't helpful...

"I cannot tell you exactly what chip is in the item but you can look threw the spec's if you would like...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...InDesc=eliteIf you have any further questions or concerns, please visit our FAQs page. If you still need assistance, please feel free to email me directly and I will be happy to assist you."

and

"Unfortunately if the specifications on the site do not state that information you will need to contact the manufacture directly with the model number.
If you have any further questions or concerns, please visit our FAQs page. If you still need assistance, please feel free to email me directly and I will be happy to assist you"
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Roman (rsh @ AVS) emailed me that my Berkline 45088 HT seats have shipped!

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dang man you are on a roll! way to stimulate the economy! Keep up the work. Post some pics once you get the seats in! any luck with the 360?
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Roman (rsh @ AVS) emailed me that my Berkline 45088 HT seats have shipped!

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Alas, the most important piece of the HT puzzle is on its way.

 

 

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dang man you are on a roll! way to stimulate the economy! Keep up the work. Post some pics once you get the seats in! any luck with the 360?

No luck on the 360 Elite Jasper yet.



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Alas, the most important piece of the HT puzzle is on its way.

Wife interest in CineSlide/ISCOIIIL, Lumagen, etc. --- NONE.

Interest in comfy seating -- HIGH.

I'll like it as well.


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Random FYI that I found today.

Here is a link (I just saw today at Amazon) for the signup link for the LOTR Extended Edition...


Link

I have no idea when it will come out but THIS is the edition I want -- and likely so do you.



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"the models are any that mfr after September.
like XGX-00038,XGX-00019,the elite FAA-00019.type "

Are those the only ones with jasper? without seeing the Mfr date is there any other way too tell? I am kind of confused with the model #'s lol sorry.

What would something like B4J-00122 be?
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"the models are any that mfr after September.
like XGX-00038,XGX-00019,the elite FAA-00019.type "

Are those the only ones with jasper? without seeing the Mfr date is there any other way too tell? I am kind of confused with the model #'s lol sorry.

What would something like B4J-00122 be?

I think this is the important part...

RE: (from an AVS post)
"I haven't seen much news of the Black Elites switching over to Jasper yet. But like its been mentioned before, its easy to tell just buy looking through the flap on the box where it shows the serial #, just to the left of that is the amp rating-12.1 is what you are looking for."

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Hey Mike, I would love to come over sometime to see the RS20 now that you have everything setup near perfect.

Let me know when you may have some time avail.


Also what was the final Gamma you had it calibrated to?

Do you know what equipment Craigr used to calibrate?
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Hey Mike, I would love to come over sometime to see the RS20 now that you have everything setup near perfect.

Let me know when you may have some time avail.


Also what was the final Gamma you had it calibrated to?

Do you know what equipment Craigr used to calibrate?

What do you mean near perfect, it IS perfect..... had to jab ya on that one Tony
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Hey Mike, I would love to come over sometime to see the RS20 now that you have everything setup near perfect.

Let me know when you may have some time avail.


Also what was the final Gamma you had it calibrated to?

Do you know what equipment Craigr used to calibrate?

Tony -

Sounds good.
I'll be in touch.

My friend still wants you to come over sometime to work on his TV's -- just no time has worked.

Hopefully my HT seats get in on Thurs, so that should make it a nicer room to hang out in.

Here is Craigr's site:
http://www.cir-engineering.com/

and calibration equipment...
http://www.cir-engineering.com/equipment.php


Wayne was there for much of the calibration and can likely make more intelligent comments than I can.

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What do you mean near perfect, it IS perfect..... had to jab ya on that one Tony

Wayne -

Waiting for your "15 minutes of fame" version 2 update thread.


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Waiting for your "15 minutes of fame" version 2 update thread.


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Well got slowed down a bit with the surgery I talked about before,then I had to dash to Florida because my dad was also in the hospital. Now im back and hittin the ground running, things are coming along though. Got a couple of neat things for the rack too
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Well got slowed down a bit with the surgery I talked about before,then I had to dash to Florida because my dad was also in the hospital. Now im back and hittin the ground running, things are coming along though. Got a couple of neat things for the rack too

Roger, roger.
While interested in your whole project, I will be really interested in your wire management techniques as my rack is a mess.

Good luck.

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Roger, roger.
While interested in your whole project, I will be really interested in your wire management techniques as my rack is a mess.

Good luck.

Mike

Mike I think the trick to wire management is to think about it from the start, I got some Mid atlantic LBA horizontal brackets for cable management, we will see how that goes, fabric tracks are up and hopefully we get the fabric mounted today, room is still a mess and tools everywhere and I dream of the day this place is put back together again. The major construction ie..walls,door framing projector booth dvd cabinets...etc are done but reinstalling everything and setting things back up is going to be like starting all over again...
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Roger, roger.
While interested in your whole project, I will be really interested in your wire management techniques as my rack is a mess.

Good luck.

Mike

Mike, I have no idea how messy is messy, but I'd look into techflex as one possible aid. Even Amazon sells some of their stuff. It's used to bundle cables.

 

 

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Mike, I have no idea how messy is messy, but I'd look into techflex as one possible aid. Even Amazon sells some of their stuff. It's used to bundle cables.

jostenmeat -

Thanks.
Looks helpful... (Amazon link)





I think one issue is the rack pulls out from the wall and rotates.
The components that are connected to each other can be "tightened up" in their connections now that my tweaking is (nearly) done.
But cords/wires connected to the back wall need laxity for the pull out and rotate.

I'll see what Wayne has cooked up at his setup regarding MA rack equipment to help with wire management.
He's pretty creative.

I still need to add:
- Carada CIH masking system
- automation/remote for system and HVAC/lighting
- XBOX360 Elite with Jasper chip
- more light conrol around window (despite black blind)

Stuff arriving soon:
- HT seats (8) - today!
- Center channel stand - "soon"

To Do:
- re-run Audyssey when seats and stand in
- get Denon GUI signal "out" to Lumagen to display -- currently some handshake issues

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I'm at work, but these were delivered today.
My wife took some iPhone pics.
Better pics later...

- Mike


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Mike the picture did not come through.

SOWK -

Thanks.
It worked for me initially when I loaded and pulled up on the web.
Weird.

I think I fixed it in the original post.

One of the HT seat power controllers didn't work.
Email going out to rsh/Roman now...

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Here are some more pics.
Not sure how much better than my wife's quick iPhone pics, but...






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PS - my center channel stand is supposed to ship out tomorrow.
PS2 - HDMI handshake issues with Denon output to RadianceXE solved by using a component connection. Not a big deal since only needed for Denon GUI, Net connection, etc. (so HDMI not really needed).
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Pretty nice Mike!
You've done good. The room is brilliant! Bravo! Your hard has truly paid off!

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Awesome shelving!
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Chief RPMA Elite mount to JVC RS20 with CineSlide and ISCOIIIL in front.
(some people were asking some mounting questions, so I thought I'd post this).

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