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Awesome shelving!

Matt C and ldgibson76 -

Thanks.

The shelving was designed by Rives Audio -- a 17 degree angle I believe -- to work as a diffractor and for storage.
My carpenter Jim built it for me.
Very smart to design your furniture for audio.
The final finish looks great. Even my wife likes it.

Mike

PS - Next time I need new carpet (eg after multiple 1yo vomits on carpet, etc), I'll talk to Wayne (funlvr1965). He has some great pics.
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Any ideas on outdoor speakers?


Here are some links where I was discussing my search for outdoor speakers:
- Seaton Sound - link
- TCA - link
- Home Theater Spot - link

Here is an old picture of my back/side yard near deck.
(Now we have grass in...)




I'm looking for adding and/or replacing in the following areas:
- garage (small Russounds out there now)
- deck (small Russounds out there now)
- deck sides x2 sets of two (nothing there now but wired)

Here is a good AVS link (from 2006) with some info:
Link
- Proficient - made by Speakercraft
- don't believe FR specs from manufacturer
- get >6" woofers for outdoors (or presumably a dedicated outdoor sub)


Some links:
- OSD - link
- Axiom - link
- smarthome.com
- AVHiFiOnline store
- parts-express.com - link
- James Loudspeakers

4 ohm amps
- James RMX series - link


These look interesting H15 ($170 each) or H14 ($130 each) or H11 ($130 each) -- but I would need 2 sets of 2 = 4.
(which is okay).

For those prices I could just get two to test and play with and buy more if needed.
Also there is a sub...
HF25


I don't believe any of the outdoor speaker FR quoted by manufacturers.
Very few reviews that I've seen though.

. All-Weather Versatility tree trunk rock bass
. Teflon-sealed Fiber Reinforced Polyester aerospace grade cabinetry
. 8" black polypropylene cone with a rubber surround
. Power handling: 250W
. Frequency Response 20Hz - 200Hz
. Sensitivity 89db
. Unit Dimension:20"L x 20"W x 15"H
. UnitWeight: 30 lbs
. 3-year warranty
. Sold in single



Mike


EDIT:
A compilation of some options:
(not all inclusive)
- Acoustic Research
- Atlantic Technology
- Axiom - eg Axiom Algonquin - link
- B&W LM1
- Boston - eg Boston Voyager 7
- Definitive Technology - eg, Def tech AW6500 - review - link
- James Loudspeaker
- JBL - eg JBL S36AWII
- Klipsch - eg Klipsch AW-400
- Niles
- Polk Audio - eg Polk Audio Atrium 60 All Weather Speakers
- Proficient Audio - eg, Proficient audio A830 Ultra
- Rockustics - eg - Rockustics Tunestone outdoor speakers - link
- Russound
- Speakercraft
- Tannoy

Outdoor subwoofer thread (at TCA): link
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This is an interesting post from David Giles of Carada:

(see post #50 of this thread - Carada CIH Masking System Anticipation Thread)

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Well folks, I have good news and bad news. The bad news is that there will be a short delay in the release of the Masquerade CIH. We'd hoped to hit our target ship date of June 22, but it's going to take a few more weeks.

Now the GOOD news is that the Masquerade CIH is going to be even BETTER than previously imagined. I mentioned in another thread a few months ago that we had decided to develop the CIH system as a single-motor platform (with the possibility of a higher cost 2-motor option). Well we've had the single-motor production model running for a few weeks now and it looks absolutely beautiful and runs flawlessly, and any home theater enthusiast would be proud to have one in their theater. BUT after much agonizing over the pros/cons of the single-motor design we've decided to switch exclusively to a 2-motor design (i.e. a single-motor option won't be offered). The 2-motor system will be more capable, more precise, more reliable, and easier to install (and is going to drive our competitors crazy! ) In that same thread from earlier this year I mentioned that a mid-sized single-motor system should come in under $4K. Of course the 2-motor system will necessarily be a bit more expensive, but I don't think anyone will mind the small increase in cost considering what you get. Now a mid-size 2-motor system will come in around $4,200, and a whopping 10' wide system will be about $4,500 (plus shipping).

Fortunately the system is about 98% engineered already and making the changes to a 2-motor system aren't as drastic as one might think so the delay isn't going to be too bad. Summer officially starts on June 22 and depending on your definition of early we might still make the early summer target. I know customers who've been eagerly awaiting this system would like something a little more concrete than that, and although I can't give an EXACT date I can offer some estimates:

Ship within the next 3-4 weeks - 75% confidence

Ship within the next 5-6 weeks - 90% confidence

Ship before the end of the summer - 100% confidence

We will be posting prices on our website within a week and will begin taking pre-orders at that time.

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A little more expensive than anticipated, but much cheaper than the competition.

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My SA CC stand arrived.

See notes and pics below.

- Mike

Sound Anchors - Center Channel Stands
http://www.soundanchors.com/page60.html

Studio CC Stand
from $320
adj height
adj tilt
custom sized



Comments:

Customer Service
- multiple emails going over details in a timely manner before order
- followup emails discussing filler material
- I had to call to get delivery day, but not that big of a deal

Packing
- 2 boxes
- very well packed

PRO
- beefy design - eg hardened steel, hex bolts, industrial design
- custom made to specs for your CC speaker
- height adjustable (but I wouldn't do it a lot)
- tilt adjustable
- stands fillable (eg shot, sand, etc)
- spikes for bottom

CON
- cost
- "custom" - not "off the shelf" so takes a little longer - although now they have an av123 RSC200 template for any future buyers
- adjusting height can scrape finish on the side (so I wouldn't adjust a lot)
- no wire management
(...but then again neither did my folding chairs...)


Pics below...

- Mike















* EDIT *
- added comments on CS and packing (above)
PS - The tilt (set using a laser guide) was only about 5 degrees
PS2 - No filler or floor spikes in yet.
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looking good. I hear ya with the con on wire management. Is there anyway you can put an audio wall plate behind it? And the cost! but like i said its looking great. everything is really coming together well. I love the new seating btw.
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looking good. I hear ya with the con on wire management. Is there anyway you can put an audio wall plate behind it? And the cost! but like i said its looking great. everything is really coming together well. I love the new seating btw.

Thanks.
I was thinking of making a hole in the false wall behind the CC speaker and having the wire come directly out of the wall into the speaker -- so not seen at all.
It's on the "To Do" list.

Kids are asleep and wife out - so I'm listening to some David Gilmour BR concert.
Nice.

Tomorrow will likely be an Audyssey MultEQ(xt) re-calibration now with some changes:
- L/R not as toed in
- CC speaker off the floor and on a stand
- 8 HT seats in place - will effect acoustics.


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Mike, it's looking really good!
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Very Cool!
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Center Stand - Very Nice Mike. Looks outstanding. Great choice. With the height you raised it to, and the tilt, how is the overall stability?
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Center Stand - Very Nice Mike. Looks outstanding. Great choice. With the height you raised it to, and the tilt, how is the overall stability?

Very stable.
The spikes should also help (not on yet).
I may not need any "filler". That is a backburner issue now.


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Very stable.
The spikes should also help (not on yet).
I may not need any "filler". That is a backburner issue now.


Mike

Cool. Love the way it looks. The stand and speaker seem to disappear given the black GOM behind them.
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My SA CC stand arrived.

See notes and pics below.

- Mike

Sound Anchors - Center Channel Stands
http://www.soundanchors.com/page60.html

Studio CC Stand
from $320
adj height
adj tilt
custom sized



Great stand! I have the exact same one for my center!
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Cool. Love the way it looks. The stand and speaker seem to disappear given the black GOM behind them.

Thanks.
No GOM.
Just drywall and black paint.

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Great stand! I have the exact same one for my center!

Cool.
What do you have on it?

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Cool ideas from Wayne in the Lumagen RadianceXD support thread -- link (start of RS232 front port discussion) -- re: MA rack plates for connecting an easy access RS232 port for frequent Radiance FW updates.

I think you could also connect ethernet, USB, etc. ports for other functions.

MA rack plate for adapters for RS232 (etc) connections on front of rack

Very cool.

My notes from that thread copied below (that Radiance thread has more pics from Wayne):
--------------------

You're fast...

Adapter - Link


Switchcraft EHDB9MFB

9 Pin DSUB Male to Female, Black finish
EH SERIES OVERVIEW
Switchcraft's newest line of connectors, the EH Series, offers a wide range of connectors all within a standard XLR housing. A single panel cut-out allows the end user to mount multiple formats including USB-A, USB-B, Firewire, S-VHS, 3.5mm stereo with normal circuit, MIDI, both 9 pin and 15 pin HD D-sub, plus RCA and BNC feed-thru's. Perfect for systems integration, pro audio, A/V, data, etc. The connectors conveniently mount into standard XLR diagonal hole knockouts, which allows the installer to easily combine the different formats into standard pre-knocked plates or racks without having to custom drill and tap a specific hole for a specific connector. You can also populate your own combination of EH connectors in Switchcraft empty QG rack panels or single and dual gang wall plates.



Plate - Link or Whirlwind
????



Middle Atlantic Products UNI-1C

The UNI Series laser-cut connector panels feature knockouts that are designed to accept a number of connectors, including XLR and Neutrik. Our innovative design lets you mount both male and female connectors to the same holes simply by knocking out the correct pattern. Made from one-piece flanged steel, black powder coat finish.



or


Whirlwind PR1

1.75" 1-space punched rack panel with 10 XLR holes. Panels are made of .090" thick 5052 aluminum with bent flanges for rigidity and have a brushed black anodized finish.
Note: Image shows multiple rack panel models.


The Whirlwind is a lot cheaper.
I'll have to check your pics and here if that is what you did.

Thanks,



Mike

PS - Just for the record, this would be "cleaner" if it was incorporated in the Radiance, but hey, a good retrofit.

*EDIT*
Pics added.
Wayne - it looks like you got the MA plate.
Any reason you didn't get the Whirlwind?
What are you using the ethernet connection for? No easy access for it behind rack for BR player, etc?
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Cool ideas from Wayne in the Lumagen RadianceXD support thread -- link (start of RS232 front port discussion) -- re: MA rack plates for connecting an easy access RS232 port for frequent Radiance FW updates.

I think you could also connect ethernet, USB, etc. ports for other functions.

MA rack plate for adapters for RS232 (etc) connections on front of rack

Very cool.

My notes from that thread copied below (that Radiance thread has more pics from Wayne):
--------------------

You're fast...

Adapter - Link


Switchcraft EHDB9MFB

9 Pin DSUB Male to Female, Black finish
EH SERIES OVERVIEW
Switchcraft's newest line of connectors, the EH Series, offers a wide range of connectors all within a standard XLR housing. A single panel cut-out allows the end user to mount multiple formats including USB-A, USB-B, Firewire, S-VHS, 3.5mm stereo with normal circuit, MIDI, both 9 pin and 15 pin HD D-sub, plus RCA and BNC feed-thru's. Perfect for systems integration, pro audio, A/V, data, etc. The connectors conveniently mount into standard XLR diagonal hole knockouts, which allows the installer to easily combine the different formats into standard pre-knocked plates or racks without having to custom drill and tap a specific hole for a specific connector. You can also populate your own combination of EH connectors in Switchcraft empty QG rack panels or single and dual gang wall plates.



Plate - Link or Whirlwind
????



Middle Atlantic Products UNI-1C

The UNI Series laser-cut connector panels feature knockouts that are designed to accept a number of connectors, including XLR and Neutrik. Our innovative design lets you mount both male and female connectors to the same holes simply by knocking out the correct pattern. Made from one-piece flanged steel, black powder coat finish.



or


Whirlwind PR1

1.75" 1-space punched rack panel with 10 XLR holes. Panels are made of .090" thick 5052 aluminum with bent flanges for rigidity and have a brushed black anodized finish.
Note: Image shows multiple rack panel models.


The Whirlwind is a lot cheaper.
I'll have to check your pics and here if that is what you did.

Thanks,



Mike

PS - Just for the record, this would be "cleaner" if it was incorporated in the Radiance, but hey, a good retrofit.

*EDIT*
Pics added.
Wayne - it looks like you got the MA plate.
Any reason you didn't get the Whirlwind?
What are you using the ethernet connection for? No easy access for it behind rack for BR player, etc?

Mike my PS3 has an ethernet port and as you know the radiance uses serial port I have 2 of the each of the connectors which especially for ethernet use will allow me a direct hardline to my router 2 flights up, still need to get the hardline run but thats the idea, im not a big fan of wireless for firmware updates. As far as why I didn't opt for the whirlwind plate over the ma plate, well I didn't realize that another one was available my full compass rep literally thumbed through the book to find this solution and i'm pretty satisfied with what he found since the alternative that others were willing to live with that have racks would have driven me crazy lol
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I'm thinking about one of the pull out shelves to house the laptop, for this. And have RJ45 type cables routed back the the particular component's DB9 connector. www.cablewholesale.com sells the RJ45 to DB9 adapters and there are some fancier ones around too. I envisioned having the RJ45 cable tied to the rear of the pull out shelf area, I can plug it in the laptop sitting on the shelf then. But a panel is nice, too, although I think I'd still go with all RJ45 type ports. Then, you always only need the single, common patch cable from the PC to the rack port-panel. You have to know how to wire the adapter but that's not very hard.
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I'm thinking about one of the pull out shelves to house the laptop, for this. And have RJ45 type cables routed back the the particular component's DB9 connector. www.cablewholesale.com sells the RJ45 to DB9 adapters and there are some fancier ones around too. I envisioned having the RJ45 cable tied to the rear of the pull out shelf area, I can plug it in the laptop sitting on the shelf then. But a panel is nice, too, although I think I'd still go with all RJ45 type ports. Then, you always only need the single, common patch cable from the PC to the rack port-panel. You have to know how to wire the adapter but that's not very hard.

Cool stuff.
Amazingly, with blanks for air circulation I'm running out of rack space.
I could always get rid of my Oppo 980 (or media storage rack) to make space, but I will now just have room for a 2RU automation/remote contoller and a 1RU blank with RS232 connection.

Other things I had considered included:
- small display (for BR for SACD/DVD-A etc so the projector didn't need to be started up)
- tape deck (for those old bootlegs)
- SVS ASEQ1 sub EQ

Wayne -
I have an ethernet switch in the BACK of my rack -- attached to back rails -- so I have easy back cables to go to my BR player, receiver, etc.


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Scott as usual there is more than one way to skin a cat, I could have gone the patch cable and panel route but this time with so much going on in my theater I decided to cheat a bit
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Wayne -

Can you take a pic of how it turns out.
I'm interested in how "finished" looking it is.
I'm posting rather than PM-ing, because others are likely interested as well.
This is a very neat/good find.

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Wayne -

Can you take a pic of how it turns out.
I'm interested in how "finished" looking it is.
I'm posting rather than PM-ing, because others are likely interested as well.
This is a very neat/good find.

Mike

I will Mike problem is that populating the rack with all the accessories isn't the next thing on the list hopefully by next week I can start heading in that direction, I have to say that the options for setting up a MA rack seem endless you can have so many different configurations that its sometimes hard to decide which route to take, do I pull hot air from the top with fans or do I mount fans in the front in a panel?, regular shelves or custom shelves? vented shelves or regular shelves, digital temp guage or not..etc...pretty cool
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I will Mike problem is that populating the rack with all the accessories isn't the next thing on the list hopefully by next week I can start heading in that direction, I have to say that the options for setting up a MA rack seem endless you can have so many different configurations that its sometimes hard to decide which route to take, do I pull hot air from the top with fans or do I mount fans in the front in a panel?, regular shelves or custom shelves? vented shelves or regular shelves, digital temp guage or not..etc...pretty cool

I'll see what you have in a week -- I'm out of town on vacation until then anyway.

Cheers,

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Wayne -

Hi.

Any updated pics of your rack?
Especially the RS232 cable/ethernet stuff.

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Another center channel stand option from Emotiva...
(I don't need it, but as a reference for others)

Link

http://emotiva.com/manuals/SS6_instructions.PDF

Here are some photos of the SS-6.








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PS - and updated PDF file of CC stands table

 

Center Speaker Stands - RSC200 - 7-8-09 - Emotiva SS-6 added.pdf 39.1962890625k . file
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My XBOX360 Elite (jasper) search continues.

I found this thread...

360 Elites disappearing?
Link

http://xbox360tracker.com/elite/

and these comments:

"The Elite is supposed to replace the Pro at $299.00 in September. The Pro will no longer be available." - link

"September is not far away but the real fun starts next month; expect serious deals clearing out the older SKUs..." - link

"...the fact that nobody had seen any Jasper Elites." - link


I obviously am not a big gamer or I would have purchased something by now.
I just want to plug my rack 360 "hole" (MA custom rack mount shelf) and get rid of my old XBOX to "close up the rest of my rack.


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Good thing I saw this post in the Audyssey forum - link - or I would have re-calibrated my system with the AVR Audyssey wrong.

Time to buy a boom for over seated positions...

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I got this...


Middle Atlantic Products UNI-1C
The UNI Series laser-cut connector panels feature knockouts that are designed to accept a number of connectors, including XLR and Neutrik. Our innovative design lets you mount both male and female connectors to the same holes simply by knocking out the correct pattern. Made from one-piece flanged steel, black powder coat finish.


...for an external (front) RS232 mount for Lumagen RadianceXE firmware updates.

Does anyone know if the MA UNI-1c can accept a temperature readout/probe in one of the knockouts?

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Mike:

For RS232 I think I am going to use this:


http://www.deepsurplus.com/Network-S...w-as-1-91-font


http://www.deepsurplus.com/Network-S...w-as-8-42-font

At the PC end you use a RJ45 to DB9 connector. With this panel you'll have the ability to add a ethernet jack should you want one.

But if you want RJ45 for your panel they have these:


http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=669
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How did I miss this one, fantastic system. I would love an ISCO IIIL + CineSlide one day.

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