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As an update, I spent Christmas at my sister's and did some looking around into the situation. While I think the 93 would be an upgrade, the picture is now much improved with her Sony because I corrected its setup. It was outputting 480p!

Hehe, amazing what some proper setup can do!
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Thought it was time I updated the front of this thread with current pics...weird how different things look now!
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I should stop looking at photos like those. It may lead to spending money.
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Still looking great!

How long are your Wire World cable lengths and are you running Silver Eclipse to your 803D's in the back?

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The Silver Eclipse ICs are 3m each for the MC501s, then the Silver Eclipse speaker wires are shorties...1m each. Rears are Oasis 6 due to the length (I think they are 8m each?)...cheers!
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I'll admit it I've gone back to this thread several times to view your amazing collection of HT gear. It is obvious to me that you are a sound guy first.

I took my wife into Boston over the weekend to check out a high-end audio shop for recon and to further my education. To my surprise, I got a peak into your world when I walked into an acoustically treated room with essentially your gear. They had B&W 800 Diamonds connected to a Classe 800 and amp (sorry the Mcintosh gear was in another room). All I can say is WOW. My wife commented that she felt that she could hear the strings on the guitar without hearing the strumming. She finally understood what I was looking to accomplish and why.

The good news is that on the way home she suggested that I contact an acoustic specialist for an analysis of what is needed in our room to improve the sound. That's a win in my book.
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I'll admit it I've gone back to this thread several times to view your amazing collection of HT gear. It is obvious to me that you are a sound guy first.

I took my wife into Boston over the weekend to check out a high-end audio shop for recon and to further my education. To my surprise, I got a peak into your world when I walked into an acoustically treated room with essentially your gear. They had B&W 800 Diamonds connected to a Classe 800 and amp (sorry the Mcintosh gear was in another room). All I can say is WOW. My wife commented that she felt that she could hear the strings on the guitar without hearing the strumming. She finally understood what I was looking to accomplish and why.

The good news is that on the way home she suggested that I contact an acoustic specialist for an analysis of what is needed in our room to improve the sound. That's a win in my book.

Great story! I luv that! I've had to build my the hard way, as I have yet to get my wife into a hifi store. When i was ordering my acoustic panels and showed them to her online she had a fit!! that was the worst fight we had about the theater. I promised if she didn't notice a difference i would take them down...and they have stayed so she does appreciate it once it is setup...thanks for sharing!
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Great story! I luv that! I've had to build my the hard way, as I have yet to get my wife into a hifi store. When i was ordering my acoustic panels and showed them to her online she had a fit!! that was the worst fight we had about the theater. I promised if she didn't notice a difference i would take them down...and they have stayed so she does appreciate it once it is setup...thanks for sharing!

Although she says she supports me and "wanted" to go to the AV shop, I have the feeling it was a "supervised visit"
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Love the look of those speakers, especially the Center. Hope someday I'll have the chance to get one. Thanks for sharing.
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Love the look of those speakers, especially the Center. Hope someday I'll have the chance to get one. Thanks for sharing.
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B&W will have to start making them again then The HTM1D was discontinued a couple years ago so the only way to get one today is to pick it up on the used market unfortunately

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B&W will have to start making them again then The HTM1D was discontinued a couple years ago so the only way to get one today is to pick it up on the used market unfortunately

I agree. I saw one in rosewood finish few months ago on eBay, I was going to take it but hesitated due to the limited space.
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...and they are beasts!!! I am glad the stand I had made has wheels on it...originally the plan was to have Spikes...I would never had been able to move it again!

I truly think it makes a massive difference in the front soundstage...completely seamless now. I started with the HTM3, then the 2D...then this one...glad I did!
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...and they are beasts!!! I am glad the stand I had made has wheels on it...originally the plan was to have Spikes...I would never had been able to move it again!

I truly think it makes a massive difference in the front soundstage...completely seamless now. I started with the HTM3, then the 2D...then this one...glad I did!

Huh now I'm even more regret. I'll be looking again for it everyday from now on
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I tried the no name brand HDMI out of the Mach into the SSP first, then compared to the Wireworld...all those people who say not to spend any money on cables don't get it, or their system isn't very resolving...it was a massive improvement in overall detail, depth and just musicality.

I hear what you're saying and I'm sure your system has the resolution to pick-up on micro details. But what are your thoughts about a technical writer who states the exact opposite?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-...-are-the-same/
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I hear what you're saying and I'm sure your system has the resolution to pick-up on micro details. But what are your thoughts about a technical writer who states the exact opposite?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-...-are-the-same/

It's an interesting article...I am not an expert on cables and certainly wouldn't get in a debate with him...all I know is what I have experienced, and it was a difference for me. I find it funny people say you "want" to hear a difference...trust me, I didn't want to hear a difference, I could have then returned the Wireworlds and spent the money on other things that would make a difference. I didn't return them.

If this article makes you buy Bluejean or Monoprice instead, great...

What I find the strangest part of this AVS forum is how people are so dogmatic (I am not referring to you, just in general) about their cable opinions...I'm not sure why we all can't share our experiences and make our own conclusions. Instead, the vast majority of other areas of this forum seem to be people attacking others if they don't 100% agree with their opinion.
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It's an interesting article...I am not an expert on cables and certainly wouldn't get in a debate with him...all I know is what I have experienced, and it was a difference for me. I find it funny people say you "want" to hear a difference...trust me, I didn't want to hear a difference, I could have then returned the Wireworlds and spent the money on other things that would make a difference. I didn't return them.

If this article makes you buy Bluejean or Monoprice instead, great...

What I find the strangest part of this AVS forum is how people are so dogmatic (I am not referring to you, just in general) about their cable opinions...I'm not sure why we all can't share our experiences and make our own conclusions. Instead, the vast majority of other areas of this forum seem to be people attacking others if they don't 100% agree with their opinion.

I have seen that (even experienced it once), and it is regrettable. It's also a whole other conversation.

As someone who considers himself to be in the middle on such things, I'll say that I've had experience with a bad HDMI cable, and one where a longer run (using 2m vs. 0.5m) solved a video problem on my Oppo 83. Strange, but it worked. Both were the same manufacturer. I have no experience with Wireworld HDMI, but if it's made as well as their power cords seem to be, it's a solid cable which gets the signal where it's going. Congratulations on the improvement it brings to your system.
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I'm not sure why we all can't share our experiences and make our own conclusions. Instead, the vast majority of other areas of this forum seem to be people attacking others if they don't 100% agree with their opinion.


I totally agree and that's why I was bringing an opposite opinion (from the writer) with as much respect to other's experiences as I could. I've got many higher quality analogue interconnects in my chain, HDMI is just one I haven't played the upgrade game with yet. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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Ya, it's funny with HDMI...I have heard that position before that it either works or it doesn't, and have various "cheap" HDMIs that do work fine. When I got my first WW and installed it, I was playing a concert Bluray, and as mentioned before in this thread, not only did I notice a difference right away, but without me saying anything my wife who was sitting and watching said, wow, the colour just seems to "pop" more now, what did you do? I would much rather have seen nothing and put the Bluejean back in.

Thanks for the link, it makes you think about it!!
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If I just had the space...and the money
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Just watched "Immortals"...kick ass movie!

The sound mix was a lot of fun in this one!

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Ya, it's funny with HDMI...I have heard that position before that it either works or it doesn't, and have various "cheap" HDMIs that do work fine. When I got my first WW and installed it, I was playing a concert Bluray, and as mentioned before in this thread, not only did I notice a difference right away, but without me saying anything my wife who was sitting and watching said, wow, the colour just seems to "pop" more now, what did you do? I would much rather have seen nothing and put the Bluejean back in.

While I'm content with my Pangea HD-26L HDMIs (and they match my system's color scheme), I have moved into Wireworld power cords. They have made an audible difference, especially on my TV, where I have a Stratus. Those WW Silver Eclipse cables of yours are too rich for my blood, but I can imagine you're getting good sound out of them. As for the Platinum HDMI, with that name (and price) why isn't it made of platinum?
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While I'm content with my Pangea HD-26L HDMIs (and they match my system's color scheme), I have moved into Wireworld power cords. They have made an audible difference, especially on my TV, where I have a Stratus. Those WW Silver Eclipse cables of yours are too rich for my blood, but I can imagine you're getting good sound out of them. As for the Platinum HDMI, with that name (and price) why isn't it made of platinum?
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I use the Pangea HD-24PC , The pcocc (pure, Ohno cast copper) with 4% silver and love what it does for the image, deep blacks and great color saturation (video only, direct to display) step the 26l's up to the 24 and see why that PCOCC is the best copper on the planet , the price ain't bad either:)
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Made some changes to the system, in the hopes of simplifying...

New rack, new amp, out with McIntosh, in with Classe CA5300, updated Oppo to the 105, upgraded speaker cables to Acoustic Zen Satori. Moved the subs in from the corners:








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Just curious, why did you get rid of the Mc's?

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I was wanting to simplify things in my Home theater...mostly to get the subs inwards from the corners. I had 4 amps in the room and this drops it to 1. I like Mc, but the Classe is a more modern design than the current Mc 5 channel (MC205?), and it is built with B&W in mind, so I wanted to see if there really was synergy...and there is!
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As always, your setup still rocks man. Odd to see you part with the mono Mac's though but your reasoning above makes sense.

Do you notice any difference in performance in the 800's with the reduction of power?

How do the new cables compare to your now old Wire World ones?

Next step, 802's for surrounds wink.gifbiggrin.gif

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Thanks guys!

Surprisingly, I think this amp sounds better than the Mc Monos setup previously. My 800Ds run on 4 ohm, and this amp doubles down to 600 watts and more importantly, lots of current, so the overall effect is one of more detail up top (without shrillness or etch), and much tighter controlled bass. As for 802Ds, they are actully too short for rear duty in my room...the 803Ds work better for me. Still burning in the Oppo 105 which seems to be smoother and smoother the more it plays.
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Surprisingly, I think this amp sounds better than the Mc Monos setup previously. My 800Ds run on 4 ohm, and this amp doubles down to 600 watts and more importantly, lots of current, so the overall effect is one of more detail up top (without shrillness or etch), and much tighter controlled bass. As for 802Ds, they are actully too short for rear duty in my room...the 803Ds work better for me. Still burning in the Oppo 105 which seems to be smoother and smoother the more it plays.

From what little I know of them, Classé amps are probably more neutral than the 501s. That might open up the sound some. I've heard it said that the 501s are voiced like a tube amp. That, along with warm speakers, is why I probably shouldn't consider adding tubes to my setup. The Classés certainly blend in a bit more, visually, than the Macs. And one doesn't hear often that a Classé amp doesn't sound good. Looks and sounds as if you did well. Congratulations.
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So why the change to Acoustic Zen from Wire World, in particular a copper/silver hybrid to an all copper cable? What is the Satori giving you that the Silver Eclipse couldn't at what, 2 or 3 times the price of the Satori? Are you using the standard Satori or the Satori Shotgun? Have you heard the Absolute? Just curious because the price of the Absolute seems to only be a marginally more than the Silver Eclipse and it is a copper/silver hybrid as well.

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