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kevon27's Avatar kevon27 10:32 AM 05-06-2014
I'm a little confused. It sounds like you are doing some of the theater build by yourself? My thoughts were that the company PMC (I think) was supposed to do all the construction work and also do the screen, masking , projector room, etc, etc. The only thing you should be doing is picking out the theater gear, furniture, decor and then watch as PMC does all the hard work.. Am I wrong?

BrolicBeast's Avatar BrolicBeast 10:38 AM 05-06-2014
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I'm a little confused. It sounds like you are doing some of the theater build by yourself? My thoughts were that the company PMC (I think) was supposed to do all the construction work and also do the screen, masking , projector room, etc, etc. The only thing you should be doing is picking out the theater gear, furniture, decor and then watch as PMC does all the hard work.. Am I wrong?

PMI is working the layout of the room (speaker placement, etc.) but they don't have in-house construction crews. Myself and AVS user BigMouthInDC are building the theater. I was going to use PMI for acoustic analysis and treatment design as well, but I may end up I using Acoustic Frontiers instead. Those services are in a holding pattern until the drywall is up.
kevon27's Avatar kevon27 10:44 AM 05-06-2014
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PMI is working the layout of the room (speaker placement, etc.) but they don't have in-house construction crews. Myself and AVS user BigMouthInDC are building the theater. I was going to use PMI for acoustic analysis and treatment design as well, but I may end up I using Acoustic Frontiers instead. Those services are in a holding pattern until the drywall is up.

Okay... PMI and not PMC..
BrolicBeast's Avatar BrolicBeast 05:38 AM 05-07-2014

Ladies and Gents, i give you: The theater space for The Beast, Unleashed theater :D:):cool:

 


jnnt29's Avatar jnnt29 06:32 AM 05-07-2014
Matt, great video. I can't wait for the fun to begin. JT
BrolicBeast's Avatar BrolicBeast 06:55 AM 05-07-2014
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Matt, great video. I can't wait for the fun to begin. JT

Thanks JT! It's going to be a funnnnnn ride!!!


kevon27's Avatar kevon27 06:36 PM 05-11-2014
I'm curios. How you will be testing the effectiveness of the soundproofing? When all the walls are up and you put in some"real" subwoofers, something like the JTR S2's driven at close to or at reference levels, I think isolating bass vibrations will be hard if the room is not completely separated from the main foundation.
BrolicBeast's Avatar BrolicBeast 08:33 PM 05-11-2014
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I'm curios. How you will be testing the effectiveness of the soundproofing? When all the walls are up and you put in some"real" subwoofers, something like the JTR S2's driven at close to or at reference levels, I think isolating bass vibrations will be hard if the room is not completely separated from the main foundation.

The room will be isolated...room within room (double wall) with three sheets of 5/8 with green glue on all walls and ceiling (that was fun today), isolation clips, channel, and one heck of a test run planned (which I will have on video with a db meter to verify results!)
BrolicBeast's Avatar BrolicBeast 11:15 AM 05-14-2014

Hey gents, here's a link to the new video series thread for the theater build: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1531727/video-series-building-the-beast-unleashed


wkingincharge's Avatar wkingincharge 06:44 PM 05-14-2014
Great 2nd video man and having the misses involved is very very cool!!!! Attention to small details is key since you are building that soundproof foundation to contain a monstrous setup.
BrolicBeast's Avatar BrolicBeast 05:20 PM 05-22-2014
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Great 2nd video man and having the misses involved is very very cool!!!! Attention to small details is key since you are building that soundproof foundation to contain a monstrous setup.

Man, her contributions really helped move things along quickly.  She's not helping me demo the bathroom down there though--it's too hard for her to stomach. (the destruction of a perfectly good bathroom)


BrolicBeast's Avatar BrolicBeast 05:22 PM 05-22-2014

Updated Plan--room slightly shortened to 26 ft. for HVAC access.: 

 

 


kevon27's Avatar kevon27 08:56 AM 05-28-2014
How is the theater build coming along? I have to give it up to you man.. I would not have the patience or the will power to attempt any kind of theater construction like yours by myself.
I'm still procrastinating putting up a ceiling fan which should only take 45 minutes as per the directions.
BrolicBeast's Avatar BrolicBeast 09:17 AM 05-28-2014
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How is the theater build coming along? I have to give it up to you man.. I would not have the patience or the will power to attempt any kind of theater construction like yours by myself.
I'm still procrastinating putting up a ceiling fan which should only take 45 minutes as per the directions.

LOL, it takes a special kind of patience man.  Putting this drywall between the joists is taking its toll on my sanity!  I'd probably procrastinate on the ceiling fan too; my electrical abilities are limited to swapping outlets and building custom Romex extension cords.  A fan is byond my current knowledge. lol.  The build is going quite well.  I did just put my CinemaPlus Platinums up for sale though--If I used them, I'd have to shell out the extra $ for custom speakers from Triad for the height layer of auro 3D.  I'm thinking about Procella P8's or the P610's, which are supposed to be more of a lateral move, as long as they're used within a baffle wall (which is the same design concept behind the Cinema Plus Platinums).  Outside of that possible change, everything else is hinging on my moving of the HVAC, Water Heater, and Bathroom.  A terribly expensive endeavor, but a necessary one to get room dimensions that meet my requirements.


kevon27's Avatar kevon27 10:00 AM 05-28-2014
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LOL, it takes a special kind of patience man.  Putting this drywall between the joists is taking its toll on my sanity!  I'd probably procrastinate on the ceiling fan too; my electrical abilities are limited to swapping outlets and building custom Romex extension cords.  A fan is byond my current knowledge. lol.  The build is going quite well.  I did just put my CinemaPlus Platinums up for sale though--If I used them, I'd have to shell out the extra $ for custom speakers from Triad for the height layer of auro 3D.  I'm thinking about Procella P8's or the P610's, which are supposed to be more of a lateral move, as long as they're used within a baffle wall (which is the same design concept behind the Cinema Plus Platinums).  Outside of that possible change, everything else is hinging on my moving of the HVAC, Water Heater, and Bathroom.  A terribly expensive endeavor, but a necessary one to get room dimensions that meet my requirements.

Auro3d - Nice.. But which processor will you be using? Storm Audio or Datasat?
BrolicBeast's Avatar BrolicBeast 10:38 AM 05-28-2014
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Auro3d - Nice.. But which processor will you be using? Storm Audio or Datasat?

Looking at the Storm processor right now man.  It looks like a beast!


MIkeDuke's Avatar MIkeDuke 11:01 AM 05-28-2014
Hey Matt, check your other thread for a quick question. You may have already answered it. If so, sorry for asking again.
BrolicBeast's Avatar BrolicBeast 11:08 AM 05-28-2014
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Hey Matt, check your other thread for a quick question. You may have already answered it. If so, sorry for asking again.

Answered in The Beast, Unleashed!
craig john's Avatar craig john 02:09 PM 05-28-2014
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Updated Plan--room slightly shortened to 26 ft. for HVAC access.: 





Matt,

I'm just gonna throw this out there...

Your seating shows 2 rows of 4 seats. It looks like they're centered on the screen. In this configuration, there is no single seat in the "sweet spot." The 2 middle seats straddle the sweet spot, but no seat in either row takes advantage of the best possible listening position in your theater.

Which row will be your "primary" row? Where will YOU plan to sit most of the time? Wherever that is, if this were my theater, I would work to optimize that one primary listening position. I would move it until it's centered on the center speaker. I would calibrate the system for levels and distances to that one spot. Then I would plop my ass down in that one spot, and only give it up to someone I really want to impress. smile.gif

Maybe consider making the front row a row of 3 seats, with the middle seat centered on the center speaker??? If this were my theater, that's what I would do. (Actually, in my theater, I have one row of 4 seats, but the whole row is shifted so the 2nd seat from the left is directly centered on the center speaker, i.e., in the sweet spot.)

I'm just sayin'. It would seem a shame to spend all this time, money and effort to built the "ultimate" HT... and then have no one sitting in the "best seat in the house"... not even you.

Craig
audioguy's Avatar audioguy 07:29 PM 05-28-2014
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. If this were my theater, that's what I would do. (Actually, in my theater, I have one row of 4 seats, but the whole row is shifted so the 2nd seat from the left is directly centered on the center speaker, i.e., in the sweet spot.)

I'm just sayin'. It would seem a shame to spend all this time, money and effort to built the "ultimate" HT... and then have no one sitting in the "best seat in the house"... not even you.

Craig

Ditto!

I have one row with 4 seats as I did in my last theater. I have my row shifted to the left. I take the sweet spot when it is just me and the bride (she could care less) but when we have another couple over, I take the worst seat which is in front of the left speaker.

For music, 99.9999999% of the time, it is just me and the sweet spot dead center is the only place to sit. For movies, it is still far superior to any other seat in the room.

Just sayin'

Chuck
MIkeDuke's Avatar MIkeDuke 05:22 AM 05-29-2014
I will add my little bit even though my theater is much smaller with only two chairs tongue.gif that are not connected. When I got the chairs I just plopped them down in what I thought were good spots. Then Craig came over and said NO NO NO. We have to center your main seat. Well, we did that and the change was very noticeable, It made the chairs closer together now but it was worth the sonic benefit.
BrolicBeast's Avatar BrolicBeast 07:16 AM 05-29-2014
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Matt,

I'm just gonna throw this out there...

Your seating shows 2 rows of 4 seats. It looks like they're centered on the screen. In this configuration, there is no single seat in the "sweet spot." The 2 middle seats straddle the sweet spot, but no seat in either row takes advantage of the best possible listening position in your theater.

Which row will be your "primary" row? Where will YOU plan to sit most of the time? Wherever that is, if this were my theater, I would work to optimize that one primary listening position. I would move it until it's centered on the center speaker. I would calibrate the system for levels and distances to that one spot. Then I would plop my ass down in that one spot, and only give it up to someone I really want to impress. smile.gif

Maybe consider making the front row a row of 3 seats, with the middle seat centered on the center speaker??? If this were my theater, that's what I would do. (Actually, in my theater, I have one row of 4 seats, but the whole row is shifted so the 2nd seat from the left is directly centered on the center speaker, i.e., in the sweet spot.)

I'm just sayin'. It would seem a shame to spend all this time, money and effort to built the "ultimate" HT... and then have no one sitting in the "best seat in the house"... not even you.

Craig

 

 

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Ditto!

I have one row with 4 seats as I did in my last theater. I have my row shifted to the left. I take the sweet spot when it is just me and the bride (she could care less) but when we have another couple over, I take the worst seat which is in front of the left speaker.

For music, 99.9999999% of the time, it is just me and the sweet spot dead center is the only place to sit. For movies, it is still far superior to any other seat in the room.

Just sayin'

Chuck

 

 

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I will add my little bit even though my theater is much smaller with only two chairs tongue.gif that are not connected. When I got the chairs I just plopped them down in what I thought were good spots. Then Craig came over and said NO NO NO. We have to center your main seat. Well, we did that and the change was very noticeable, It made the chairs closer together now but it was worth the sonic benefit.

Gents,

 

I’m embarrassed to admit that the front row shows four seats primarily because in five-minutes of searching, I couldn’t find a row of three in the modeling program that matched the rear row, and vice-versa; I couldn’t fund a rear row of four that matched any set of three, so I just slapped a row of four in the front row.  The plan is indeed to have three seats though, as the Sweet Spot is absolutely Critical to me. Being off-center is not an option for the resting place of the BrolicButtocks.


MIkeDuke's Avatar MIkeDuke 07:19 AM 05-29-2014
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Gents,

I’m embarrassed to admit that the front row shows only three seats primarily because in five-minutes of searching, I couldn’t find a row of three in the modeling program that matched the rear row, and vice-versa; I couldn’t fund a rear row of four that matched any set of three, so I just slapped a row of four in the front row.  The plan is indeed to have three seats though, as the Sweet Spot is absolutely Critical to me. Being off-center is not an option for the resting place of the BrolicButtocks.
Cool. Glad to hear that. It would have been surprising if you did not plan for that in the first place.
craig john's Avatar craig john 12:45 PM 05-29-2014
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Gents,

I’m embarrassed to admit that the front row shows four seats primarily because in five-minutes of searching, I couldn’t find a row of three in the modeling program that matched the rear row, and vice-versa; I couldn’t fund a rear row of four that matched any set of three, so I just slapped a row of four in the front row.  The plan is indeed to have three seats though, as the Sweet Spot is absolutely Critical to me. Being off-center is not an option for the resting place of the BrolicButtocks.
Glad to hear you'll have a seat in the sweet spot, but TBH, I could have lived without the "visual" of the BrolicButtocks! eek.gif

biggrin.gif

Craig
Franin's Avatar Franin 06:00 PM 06-15-2014
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Updated Plan--room slightly shortened to 26 ft. for HVAC access.: 







Matt,

I'm just gonna throw this out there...

Your seating shows 2 rows of 4 seats. It looks like they're centered on the screen. In this configuration, there is no single seat in the "sweet spot." The 2 middle seats straddle the sweet spot, but no seat in either row takes advantage of the best possible listening position in your theater.

Which row will be your "primary" row? Where will YOU plan to sit most of the time? Wherever that is, if this were my theater, I would work to optimize that one primary listening position. I would move it until it's centered on the center speaker. I would calibrate the system for levels and distances to that one spot. Then I would plop my ass down in that one spot, and only give it up to someone I really want to impress.

Maybe consider making the front row a row of 3 seats, with the middle seat centered on the center speaker??? If this were my theater, that's what I would do. (Actually, in my theater, I have one row of 4 seats, but the whole row is shifted so the 2nd seat from the left is directly centered on the center speaker, i.e., in the sweet spot.)

I'm just sayin'. It would seem a shame to spend all this time, money and effort to built the "ultimate" HT... and then have no one sitting in the "best seat in the house"... not even you.

Craig
I agree there! I did the same got rid if my 4 seater and purchased a 3 seater. I sit in the sweet spot as I'm in there 99.98% of the time.
BrolicBeast's Avatar BrolicBeast 06:07 AM 06-19-2014
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I agree there! I did the same got rid if my 4 seater and purchased a 3 seater. I sit in the sweet spot as I'm in there 99.98% of the time.
I concur as wel! Here is an updated model with proper seating!


Franin's Avatar Franin 09:18 AM 06-19-2014
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I concur as wel! Here is an updated model with proper seating!

It's going to look great Brolic
MIkeDuke's Avatar MIkeDuke 09:45 AM 06-19-2014
I like the 3 seat 4 seat look. That is still plenty of seats for guests. You can post it here or in your other thread but what kind of seats are you getting again?
BrolicBeast's Avatar BrolicBeast 02:49 PM 06-19-2014
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It's going to look great Brolic
Thanks Frank. I look forward to seeing your updated room with three seats in the front!!!!!

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I like the 3 seat 4 seat look. That is still plenty of seats for guests. You can post it here or in your other thread but what kind of seats are you getting again?
I'm currently looking at the Fusion Jives, I'm going to test them out this month at a local enthusiast's house to make sure they meet my comfort requirements. I reckon they will!
MIkeDuke's Avatar MIkeDuke 05:47 PM 06-19-2014
Wow Matt, they look really nice. Due to space constraints I can't those kind of "regular" HT chair that so many people have. When I was looking, Lazy-Boy fit my width requirements. But they are just regular recliners with no cup holders or anything. But they are very comfy so I am happy with my choice. Those that you are looking ar sure seem nice though. I hope they work out.
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