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Room

15 feet long
10 feet 2 inches wide
8 feet 8 inches high

Chimney breast to left of room is sound challenge as I have to work off the chimney breast and make the remaining last front of the room appear to be one large wall.

Double glaze window might as well be paper which needs to be blocked up with x2 layers of MDF at different levels to reduce as much traffic sound as possible.

Acoustical tiles are fitted at different angles on side and rear wall and a few on the ceiling near to the front.


Audio processors

Yamaha RX-V650 main AVR
Manual for RX-V650
http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/.../RX-V650_e.pdf

Yamaha DSR-70 front preamp left/right
Yamaha DSR-70 sidewall surrounds for matrix overhead surrounds on 5.1 / 6.1 and any 8.1 mixes its all good fun
Manual for DSR70Pro
http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/...m/DSR70PRO.pdf

Yamaha DSP-100 disconnected and presently set aside now.
(Most of the manuals I can find in pdf form but I have the hard-copy for reading up on)

Kenwood KRF-X9050D now serves as 4 zone surround amp
Manual for KRF-X9050D
http://manuals.kenwood.novenaweb.inf...50D%20(EN).pdf

Pioneer VSP-200 (removed now in use in bedroom for pc)

Harman-Kardon AVP1a Dolby pro-logic THX (used for auto balance of the Lt-Rt and serving as an extra, way of see if levels are too high before passing to Format 60 non-sync.

Equalizers

JVC Sea-E30 extra surround overehead (soon to be replaced)
Technics SH-8055 sidewall surrounds (soon to be replaced)
Behringer GEQ3102 31 band 1/3 rear back duel centre mono surrounds as well as stereo rear back for Dolby-EX Dolby TrueHD surround 7.1 and dts-ES 6.1 7.1 when used.
Manual for GEQ3102
http://www.behringer.com/assets/GEQ3102_P0088_M_EN.pdf

Behringer FBQ2496 parametric EQ channel A LCRS sub bass extension / channel B sub bass and LFE.1
Manual for FBQ2496
http://www.behringer.com/assets/FBQ2496_P0315_M_EN.pdf


Dolby Cinema processors

Dolby CP45 currently being used for the surrounds as EX on Dolby-Logic additional 6channel input still planing on what to use it for with the surrounds?
Manuals for CP45
http://www.iceco.com/Dolby/CP45%20User%20Manual.pdf
http://www.iceco.com/Dolby/CP45%20Specs.pdf
http://www.iceco.com/Dolby/CP45%20In...n%20Manual.pdf


Dolby CP55 set aside awaiting deciding on what to use it for
Manual for CP55
http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/m...DOLBYCP551.pdf
http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/m...DOLBYCP552.pdf
http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/m...BYCP55OPER.pdf

Dolby CP65 currently being used for 6channel discrete and Dolby Pro-Logic
Manual for CP65
http://www.iceco.com/Dolby/CP65%20Product%20Sheet.pdf
http://www.iceco.com/Dolby/CP65%20In...n%20Manual.pdf
http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/m...YCP65CHART.pdf

Dolby CP500 set aside awaiting additional CAT cards
Manual for CP500
http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/m...DOLBYCP500.pdf
http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/m...500REFDIAG.pdf
http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/m...CP500USERS.pdf
http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/m...CP500CHART.pdf
http://www.rsem.com/pdf_manuals/Dolb...c%20Decode.pdf

Crossover system

Behringer DCX2496 LCR front loudspeaker management crossover system
Manual for DCX2496
http://www.behringer.com/assets/DCX2496_P0036_M_EN.pdf

Amplifiers

Alesis RA300 left/right front LF
Alesis RA300 centre front LF / overhead surround
Alesis RA300 sub bass / LFE.1 in bridge mode
Manual for RA series
http://www.alesis.com/stuff/contentm...t_overview.pdf
http://www.alesis.com/stuff/contentm...500_manual.pdf

Marantz 1050 lefr/right front HF
Marantz 1050 centre front HF
Marantz 1030 powering The Puck sub bass transducers

Additional audio processors

Behringer MDX4600 LCR /sub LFE.1 audio limiter compressor as and when I need it
Manual for MDX4600
http://www.behringer.com/assets/MDX1600_P0177_M_EN.pdf

Realistic 6 channel audio mixer for LCRS sub bass extension (soon to be replaced with second DCX2496)

Audio/video players

Phillips BDP7300 DVD/bluray player with 6channel DOLBY TrueHD 6.1 / dts hd master audio 6.1 decoder in active use
Sony BDP-S550 DVD/Bluray player with 8channel DOLBY TrueHD 6.1 / dts hd master audio 7.1 decoder in active use
Sony DVP-S336 DVD player bedroom DVD player
Pioneer DLV-909 CD/DVD Laserdisc player in active use
Pioneer CLD-1750 Laserdisc player (needs a few basic parts to get it up and running again)
Pioneer CLD-2950 Laserdisc player (needs a few basic parts to get it up and running again)
Pioneer DV-515 DVD player multi-regional player in active use
Pioneer DV-525 DVD player waiting for new use
Yamada DVR-9300HK DVD/recorder player
Yamada DVR-9300HX DVD-RW recorder

Video monitor and projector

Hitachi XGA CP-X430 HD ready only 1080i gets little use only for special shows

Panasonic widescreen CRT 32”

Sony Bravia LCD 30" flat screen HD ready for bedroom. Thou Might think of using it for the living room. Fine picture not great just fine displays a bit more width then my CRT Panasonic.


Loudspeakers

JBL sound system main room

JBL control 5 (x5 inactive at present time), I’m thinking for a new role in the sound system for them to play in.
http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/suppor...=785&doctype=3
http://www.jblproservice.com/pdf/Con...trol%205WH.pdf


JBL x 3 Control 12SR the forth one sits at the back of the room) LCR modified to run as separate LF / HF with the Beringer DCX2496 x4 only x3 are used for LCR at present looking for two more for 5-screen matrix for special film showings with Dolby Stereo CP65 or CP500.
http://www.jblpro.com/pub/obsolete/control_12sr.pdf

JBL Control 1 x12 Surrounds all are fitted at equal height and aimed downwards for uniform defused surround
http://www-it.desy.de/fepos/download...L_Control1.pdf
http://www.jblproservice.com/pdf/Con...trol%201WH.pdf

x3 for left sidewall wired in series
3x for right sidewall wired in series
x4 for back wall in two halves each side wired in series
x2 for overhead matrix surround wired in series

JBL diy 4645 sub bass 18” sub bass / LFE.1
http://www.jblpro.com/pub/obsolete/2240gh.pdf

JBL GTO1202D x2 LCRS sub bass extension
http://www.jbl.com/resources/Brands/.../GTO_1202D.pdf

The Puck sub bass transducers fitted to x3 seats the remaining, The Puck I'll buy later and several more as they're not all that bad for the price if kept within their technical tolerance range.
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=300-388
http://www.daytonaudio.com/media/res...nual-43678.pdf


Tools

Realistic analogue SPL db metre
Behringer ECM8000 calibration microphone (need 3 to maybe 7 more ECM8000)
Manual for ECM8000
http://www.speechresearch.co.nz/ecm8000.pdf

Boom mic
Behringer MIC100
Manual for MIC100
http://www.behringer.com/assets/MIC100_P0207_M_EN.pdf

RealRTA 1/3
REW
Spectrum Lab

Test discs

dts demo music and calibration set-up disc
THX bluray set-up disc




I was kinder hoping I'd have it this way and would see it though to being finished until I scored some rare JBL Control 12SR and removed the plasterboard. Got start all over again and it peanuts for plasterboard.
Bed sheet visible to upper right corner for video projection as and when I run it.





Panoramic view got a little cropped in the editing of piecing the three halves together, I should have used a tripod.


Woodwork is not my sort of thing and thou I spent a few days building the platform stage and it was never intended to have heavier items placed it and its held up well, the 12SR weigh a damn sight more than the control 5. The box placed between the TV and stage is to give it a ridged middle support until I finish it off with beams on the left and right side or an extra one placed in the middle as I might fit an LCD flat screen to the stage base and move the sub over since it won't be affected by the magnet with discolouring of the picture.



Samson SRK21 cheap buy doesn't cost the Earth to rack mount. This is only one I have at the moment and x3 more will be needed to rack all the audio/video gear.


Yamaha RX-V650 cheap buy of eBay for under £70.00 offered only Dolby-EX dts-ES and other trimmings but the goal was to cut corners and use it as and when for Dolby TrueHD 7.1 dtsHDMA 7.1 though its 8channel input now there is no need to spend out on new AVR costing far more.


Irwin cinema rocker seats stadium with cup holders cheap buy for x6 seats remaining x3 are in the bedroom and awaiting to be fitted down to an MDF flooring that will over most of the living room floor so that the first row seats can be screwed into the MDF securely and raised seating platform at back at around 6" high will be more than enough.

A simple bit of timber screwed together can easily support the three seats.


The Puck







Looking for ideas to use The Puck a starters sub bass transducer but I think its rather good for the price if you can find the best location for it, and that levels are balanced between sub-woofers and sub transducers there is no excuses for overpowering them.

If placed in poor way most of the lows used up might be nearing its limit and can get a little warm as I tested a sine wave and later found out over several minutes.

Well the seat bucket has plenty of room as I expected it would. Its now trail and error to see what I can get from these small devices?



One fast simple way I saw was to place it between the seating springs and it worked magic expect it has a bit of sweet point a rather unpleasant sweet spot, when after playing Earthquake (1974) The Big One on chapter 8 region 2 DVD twice I had trouble sitting down for 20 mins. My ass was still buzzing off all the LFE.1 kinder like the "white finger" effect. A bit tingly well at least I know they work.



Another way was to use a quick means of double sided tape which produced better effect over the whole seating with different frequencies within its range ether vibrated the seat bucket or armrest and occasional the seat back, kinder like what one might notice in the real world, only thing missing of course is vibration beneath my feet and I've got plans for that one once the flooring goes down.





Watching a bit of Laserdisc once in while with the man of steel Superman The movie (1978).
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Dolby Stereo CP45 is one of the affordable optical cinema processors made for cinemas with tight budget. It offers duel Dolby A-type and SR thou not real SR its a consumer version of S-type sandwiched onto the CAT/222A/SR. Real SR cards would ether be CAT280T fitted in module like Dolby SRA5 which is a bit rare. CAT-300 or 350 for other cinema processors like CP50 55 65 200 and 500 CP100 is bit rearer to find these days.



CAT-515 I ordered this from south USA that took around a few weeks and it worked a treat.

It looks still new out of the box and for £50.00 its more like a steal as cinemas have gone barking mad for Dolby CP650 or CP750 or something else from Datasat for 7.1 rear extra stereo surrounds for 3D. So no I'm not at all surprised to see these turning up in the dozens at bargain buy it now prices one eBay.

The CP45 has analogue projector 1 and 2 inputs two non-sync modes and discrete 6input

Formats
01 mono / 04 Dolby Stereo A-type / 05 Dolby SR / non-sync 1 and non-sync 2 AUX 6channel input and microphone for making public announcements into the auditorium. discrete 6channel input is what I have used when I first got the CP45 late of last year.

The CP45 has its own on-board wideband pink noise generator when pressing formats 04 and 05 at the same time and waiting 7 seconds before it goes into sequence and cycles though Left centre right and both surrounds at the same time.

To EQ one surround at time a wire can be placed between left and right output monitor by attaching left to minus or right to mins it shorts out one of the channels so you can concentrate on the EQ which is basic wideband bass middle range and treble.





Behind the drop down panel is an 2/3 octave EQ of 7 narrow bands and wide band bass and treble turnover pots as well for fine adjustment when used with an RTA.



Rear panel is bit neater than the other CP I have seen with easy clip on wires are screwed into the + or - terminals not really that hard but I'm afraid HDMI is not something Dolby thought about at the time how that would made it a lot simpler.



Upon reading the users manual I noted there is no CAT-515 card that will enable the CP45 to produce stereo surrounds its basically a small PCB preamp card that attaches to pins inside behind the ribbon track.




Dolby CAT-515 I had to order from South USA that took a few weeks to arrive early this year worked a treat. It has small timing photometer that is adjusted until each of the surrounds has equal balance.






For projector 1 input I had to take RS male to female cable I had for another thing and chop off one end of the lead then use the multi-metre to find which wire leads to which pin and it wasn't easy.

The task was to find a way to reducing the distortion or overloading of the input signal on format 04 and 05. So I made a lead one with XLR female to plug into the Beheringer MDX4600 were I can set its compressor to cut back on some louder films, films like Futureworld (1976) on DVD region 2 mono mix only is really LOUD I guess some +10 or more higher I haven't bothered to put it under the scope but a good guess of +10db is better than no guess.

Yes I tried 10k resistors soldered together and that didn't work when it should have, The snag was it was then picking up noise so back to the drawing board. I hammered out the idea to use a few of the above mentioned and below under problem 2.

The idea worked out very well and you wouldn't notice it besides its entraining too much compression yes it will stick out like a sore thumb.

Problem 2 was how to balance the audio so that I don't have to go inside the CP45 for alignment of the A chain on most films. Harman Kardon AVP1a was the answer it has barograph display so I can see if level in fact is too high plus it has auto balance and set in stereo mode only so it takes the Lt-Rt and passes it hands it over to CP45 with little or no more snugs.






Well I was eager to rack mount it and well I had to remove one of the Marantz 1050 and place that elsewhere to left side of the rack.


A heap load of cables to tide up with cable management ties well I'm going to redo all the cables once I get the other racks and each rack has its own audio/video players and audio processors and amplifiers each to have their own rack.
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Now one of these would cost easily over around $15grand brand new. For as little as around £136.00 eBay has some real bargains. Even 35mm projectors going as little for under over £200.00 mad! But like I said cinemas have gone digital HD 3D mad.

Well besides getting a real cinema processor I wasn't prepared for...oh looks like I'll need CAT-669 a CAT-222A a CAT-685 I can wire this up but I'd be only getting little fun from it.

One the Dolby digital is way different to consumer laserdisc DVD and bluray it uses something called, packets well I don't see a 35mm projector around my home and Dolby CAT-702 digital reader so I'll pass on using format 10 and use ether format 11 and format 42 / 43 and the analogue formats and non-sync, until the one (maybe day) I buy a projector.



Looks like a fist full of wiring at the back! Yes I have to trace where it leads to. Sometimes the cat likes to chew on the cables after being feed, he's still hungry for some Tandy cables or one of my optical leads that he crewed right though LOL. I was wondering what happened to digital signal I thought it was the DVD player resorting back to analogue? Took me 20mins to suss out it was the cat.












Plenty of space for extra CAT cards next to the blue connector J30, is where the extra Dolby cards are slotted into place though the use of CAT-669 adaptor a bit rare and very hard to find but, if the push comes to the shove I'd have to make one up slot the cards in place and attach them to a diy version.

The A/SR is switched over to left side and the duel A-type cards fit one onto the new adaptor and the other in the usual place, what was Dolby thinking at the time? I would have had both the adaptors the same but there had to be a reason? Oh well never mind.

Next to where the A/SR cards slot in to right is the optical card and next to that is CAT-685 analogue/digital 6channel in and I have my card reserved for that I'll be buying it soon.


Dolby CAT-222ASR removed
Below are the fans or as I like to call them The Leaf Blowers!

I had to look this product up and I was surprised to find the specs for smoothing that is maybe 16 years old.


Sunon KDE2406PKB3 / Volts 24VDC / Watts 1.2 / RPM 3500 / CFM 16 / Inch H2O 0.13 / dbA 27 / Size 60mm x60mm x20mm

Well 27dbA is too loud! Therefore I disconnected them and the processor runs fine expect when the panel is closed it takes about 30 or mins for the CAT-222ASR to get warm.

A friend who builds as well as teaches electronics assured me "there shouldn't be a probable if it takes that long to warm up". I'm still going to use fans expect newer ones of far less db Leaf Blowing sound I have looked at few and found one product expect bugger! Its not the right size LOL there are others that are the right square size I'm not bothered at the depth just as long as its not over 1 1/2 inches.



At the time of racking I was still using the CP45 as normal its connected to Yamaha RX-V650 or outputs from the Yamaha go to CP45 I prefer the feel of Dolby fader under my fingertips its like no other feeling, it brings back memoires of working in the cinema. So Yamaha serves as video/audio selector basically.

For Dolby or dts 7.1 I have no choice to use the Yamaha fader and with fader set at "7" on the CP I know its within a tiny fraction db. 7.1 discs are not as common in my home I have more Dolby 4:2:4 matrix to discrete 4.0 4.1 and 5.1 and the odd few dts-ES 6.1.

The CP500 is bit of pig to set-up even with the manual I had to find a separate manual to get the proceeder to setting up one of the non-sync formats to Dolby Pro-Logic and its was a bit of check list to go though.

I have format 60 non-sync programmed now for User1. with CP45 it was a matter of moving one or few jumper pins around to program the processor.

Other features are 6channel 1/3 27 band EQ with a built in X-curve that is easy to follow. It has narrow bands and wide bands for speaker to room correction on easy to read LCD display.

A chain and B chain alignments

Single or multiplex microphone inputs, single input on the front on CAT-681 that provides its own phantom power. On the rear panel there is RS connector that attaches to rather expensive multiplex microphone well not really in my opinion its still taking an single input from the output sent down the cable from a small box that has a load of connectors and my simple solution would top be use microphone mixer and attach it up with 4 or more matching microphones and see what happens.

To enter into the features via the Menu button and the soft keys around the LCD display is easy to follow once you've had more hands on time. The processor even has hidden Easter Eggs Games. and it accessible though a combination programming or hacking to gain access to the 3 or 4 games it has.

Fader dial is easy to read and reads in dismal points like 6.1 6.2 and so on up to "7.0" up to ten and no it doesn't go to "11" for that extra push over the edge 1 louder. I wonder would be +3db more.

I like the fader programmer to mute button where it can be programmed to slowly fader to mute over a few seconds or within a few milliseconds.

There is a bit more under the hood that I haven't dabbled into as of yet until I get the extra cards installed.

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A few days after my birthday last month arrives yet another vintage Dolby Stereo processor the CP55 now this was my first one I used when stating out as trainee some 23 years ago, it was mated with a Dolby SRA5 in the cinema all 10 screens had CP55 with SRA5 and basic small rack about under 3 feet with x3 Quad amps to do LCR and the surrounds. No subs were installed even though it was recommended for SR soundtracks.









Its not in bad shape for around 28 years old the model I have might have been made a bit later after 1984 but its in good working order after checking out with a basic connection to projector 1 input and used one of my JBL control 5 placed on the floor below the centre front to test out the outputs and all where in working order.

I might buy a newer Dolby matrix card and swap over the CAT-150 for CAT-150E some time very later on.





My cat, no not Dolby CAT my real cat Sooty is prowling around wondering what this is doing in his, territory. He didn't mark he gave it the once over sniff with simple meow of approval. Cats are smart creatures.



Removal of the CAT-64B EQ cards I can see the settings its set at when last used in a cinema. The card also comes apart for replacement parts which is nice a touch.


Removal of the CAT-240 optical cards and mostly all the cards to clean the inside out of some 28 years of dust.


With all CAT cards slotted back into place not much else to do now expect get a another rack and start racking up all the processors.


Powered up for testing and the stool happens to belong to my cat and he's wondering "what is this doing on my stool"?





The wires have to be removed at some later time I've left them as is for now. I have read though the manual for most pages as some of this is fairly easy to align after going though the CP45 I've used the outputs for testing the A chain on the RTA and oscilloscope duel trace with X Y that a friend brought around for one afternoon of testing the CP45 and it was interesting to see how far off the processor was with sine wave spot tones and pink noise and it was tiny margin of careful trimming the alignment pots until it reads correct on the scope.



There is an additional part added that I had to phone up on, its an extra card for the remote fader and I would prefer to have the original fader with format buttons.


Well I only de-soldered a few terminals and left what was attached to the remote interface alone.
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I have never seen a Dolby CP65 in the cinema before I have worked around a couple and mostly seen in the booth ether CP50 CP200 and CP650 but never the CP65 and I have read good views about it from another private cinema owner and I'm really chuffed with its performance gives a nice brutal output when used the a few days ago with STAR TREK II The Wrath of Khan on NTSC Laserdic on format 60 that's been programmed for Dolby Pro-logic. Nice low end output though the CAT-441 OBE optical bass extension, sweet.


Upon receiving the CP65 some almost 4weeks ago it came packed nicely no snags at all.


Looks to me like its got enough foam and bubble wrap to sink a battleship.


Yes that is DIE HARD 2 DIE HARDER (1990) playing on region 2 DVD though the Dolby CP45 at the time in format 61 AUX. It looks and sounds better than than bluray which has tinted colour from that lousy special edition 2 disc DVD box set made several years ago around 2002 I think? The framing is on the piss its all cropped off on the sides and the dts I swear I listened to this film at least 2 times in Dolby Stereo SR and several more late night double bill shows in Dolby Stereo A-type.

I like to get the region 1 DVD and maybe give the bluray to my dad or a friend or just keep it around for the extras only, because that is all the bluray is good enough for.






She looks almost brand spanking new besides a slight left bent rack ear that I managed to use bruit muscle force an adjustable spanner job done now it can be racked.

Hinges was another issue left hinge broke! plastic what do you expect these days? LOL Well I thought I could super glue that back together nope not even super glue might as well been hobby glue for model kits.

Plan B but oh no I managed to break the other hinge on the right that and its really quiet all right. There are metal ones on eBay and bit pricey. Well I looked the issue over and thought maybe a friend can make a small hinge out of metal a really basic easy to fit. In the meantime I removed the plastic hinges off the CP55 and placed them onto the CP65 as they are the same fit.

Well even metal door hinges get broken these days what can I say.

I've seen far worse Dolby CP selling on eBay of CP55 that looked like it was tired up to the back end of car and dragged the front panel was all beat up it had all of most of CAT cards removed and the cheeky bugger wanted $400.00 dollars for it, sigh. Mine only cost £65.00. You got keep your wits about on eBay.


Well it should have had the CAT-300 or 350 and I inquired about this, with the seller and the SR cards were removed and it was mated up with Dolby 363 module with SR cards slotted into it? Well the CAT-300 350 are rare item to find and with some 10 thousand or more out there a bunch is bound to show up sooner or later.



The rear back terminals looked like it dog crewed on it while removing it from service. Brake out the soldering and and get de-soldering!




That's a little manageable now. The extra card on the back is for mating with Dolby loudness meter model 737 which gives a simple readout if its too loud like to get one as some films are TOO LOUD!



Well now its time for racking it into place and I'll have to remove the CP500 until I get the extra CAT cards.


One final look of the CP500 racked above the CP45 before removing it, temporally.


Easy to remove when I first racked it in its a bit of balancing act with one hand to hold it in place for the screws, got use bruit muscle, no mucking around.


Well this time the Dolby CP65 slid in like smooth warm butter on spoon, as its the same height as the CP500.


I made a little temporarily tidy of the cables as they are all going to be replaced with affordable multi strand brand new cabling some time soon.








I can't wait to get anther Samson SRK21 racked beside and get that clutter out of my sight.




Sooty likes the LED moving around on CAT-222A


Sooty likes to give the CAT-64 EQ an extra high frequency trim.




Now one might be think why keep the CP45 well the CP45 was later modified for Dolby Surround-EX and there are plenty of those going around today.

I plan to use the extra discrete inputs on format 61 AUX not commenting on that now, the usual format 60 non-sync is used for Dolby Pro-Logic in much as the same way as the Dolby SA10 surround adaptor expect here I can use the OBE on it and few extra trimmings. It works a treat set fader at "7" set the left and right input so its trimmed sweetly adjust the EQ on the CP45 even thou, I made a few extra trimmings on the parametric EQ on the CP65 that managed to get a small issue sorted on both sidewall surrounds and was equally enough to match onto the rear back surrounds with the final EQ done on CP45. No its not done in matter of minutes or hours thou I'd be lucky to get an easy day to do it such a time, often it take a few days.



Removal the Dolby EQ module for alignment I have to remove each card one at time since I don't have the attachment to slot into the CAT-64B frame I have to switch the CP65 to bypass then remove the EQ card after looking at te RTA and memorizing what I saw on the RTA as well as the tonal sound of pink noise.

In the meantime a my friend is design from what he could only roughly make out of CAT-67 extension card that is used for the EQ adjustment. Its basically bare card with circuit track and cable attached to the end so it can be matted to CAT-64 card.

Upon seeing the first prototype last night and first glance I knew it wouldn't it was too small and it had all the effort put into it of the cutting and filling down the edges it was only a few points out of position.

He should have another one knocked up in couple of days after looking at CAT-64 inspecting the positions and spacing of the circuit track and looking at the one someone else made as CAT-67 is yet another rare hard to find part.

Also the plastic attachment he should be able to come across those since his trade profession is electronics. I own him a case of Budwiser for that.



A few days after the CP65 arrived a cult early 80's sci-fi Altered Sates (1980) turned up and I wasn't ready to play the film as I had to wire up and extra, extra LCR sub bass extension which is used with when playing discrete 4.0 4.1 5.1 and so on to maintain a firm good low end while LFE.1 plays discrete.

The OBE only works when in Dolby Stereo analogue or on the non-sync mode or can be switched off its left in auto mode as it should be.

The Oscar nominated for best sound was creaking fun from the moment the film started. A machine is typing out data on left with click, click and centre holds its own discreteness with narration and on right a different machine sound. The score was eerier when it started by composer John Corigliano, took me into the world and mind of Dr. Jessop played by William Hurt.

I stated the film off at fader 6 to be on the safe side with new films if all goes well I'l take it up to "7" 85db and at times it was DAMN LOUD on one of the chapters near towards the end when he bursts into a force of electricity. Sparkles of highs and lows flow around the room from the stage LCR onto the surrounds, Brilliant Film!
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I appreciate your passion for sound but I don't know what to say really ; wires hanging all over the place, drywall not finished, insane amount of speakers, duct tape CRT TV Kind of looks like a fire hazard. I hope this is not the finished theater. Sorry for sounding like an ass but as long as you enjoy it that's all that matters, no matter what anyone says.

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I appreciate your passion for sound but I don't know what to say really ; wires hanging all over the place, drywall not finished, insane amount of speakers, duct tape CRT TV Kind of looks like a fire hazard. I hope this is not the finished theater. Sorry for sounding like an ass but as long as you enjoy it that's all that matters, no matter what anyone says.

Well your dead right on few counts and you are also an ass for being dead wrong. I don’t or many others here don’t have $£50 grand budgets to throw money on high priced materials we have to compromise.

I guess you, didn't see the LCD video projector. What is it with your screen is too small these day? Have you seen cinemas they have small to medium to mammoth size even the small cinemas have larger screens that would top mine and possible many others yet we still use the same disc medium format.

As for fire hazard I haven't even tripped the circuit breakers once yet! If I start tipping it I'll start worrying.

Also many speakers, wow I seen so many subs in some rooms and we all know why! Its to even out the lows, from peaks to valleys of dolls so I prefer more surrounds for seat to seat just as some like 6 or more subs for seat to seat.

Sorry for sounding like an ass2.
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My dad didn't want this small Sony Bravia KDL-26U200 that has ether issues with the remote control or within the hardware. I have two remotes that can't switch up and down channels or volume, not that it matters rarely if not ever use the volume at all, and can't really be asked with British tv broadcasts I only use it for a monitor for watching films or switched off and listening to music.


Tested last week with shorter HDMI cable that came with my Sony BDP-S550 a few years almost ago. Sony can only work up 1080i no progressive scan and that doesn't bother me the Hitachi LCD video projector can only work up to 1080i and still looks brilliant even on a bed sheet.

At first I had The Invasion (2008) bluray set at 720p as I was still trying to unravel some of the remote commands until I managed to suss out Custom handles all the colour brightness and so on, then I found the selection for video modes like wide and 14:9 and so on.

Image colour wasn't as annoying as my mates 42 Samsung which is an older model of some 5 to 6 years it as lagging or refreshing I think its called and colours looked like George Lucas had milked it down, because skin tones look like Count Dracula had been sucking on them (only on TV analogue/digital broadcasts) Play a bluray and it looks like Spring Time as arrived with vivid colours and brightness and better blacks, not perfect just better.


The thing I noticed when doing a A & B comparison with Sony over my Panasonic 32" CRT flat screen was less cropped on the sides on the Sony. I'd have to do the same test again compared with same film or simple test card from pc to Sony though its RS input to see if there is any small difference with over-scan.

Arrived this morning was a cheap 10meter HDMI lead that I'm about to test to see if its any good and its quality looks good to me and the smell of cable nice.



Sooty likes to inspect new items entering the home, he's yet to approval it.

Well I'm going to test it now with HDMI attached to Phillips BDP-7300 which is the living room and if it looks okay I might fit the bracket up in the living room and move the Sony from living room to bedroom, kinder like a slide-mount on CB radio I do like it for pc monitor I can be within 14" of the screen and no eye strain as you get with CRT screens.
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Cable works and providing it’s firmly attached to output to input it receives well.

Thing I don’t like about I guess (each to their own) is scart and HDMI tend to wobble about. Why couldn’t they made it like an RS cable with screws on the sides so it can be securely attached. Well as long as I don’t go pulling on the cable no reason for it to remain stable, first time and every time.



Switched to 1080i though the HDMI output on the Phillips player and looks fine.

Not bad buy now for under £10.00 for 10meters maybe I should have gone for 15meter cable.



Well the bracket will be a doddle to fit in a few minutes expect the Sony will be 4” or so covering over a small portion of the bass mid. So that idea is a no go. I can place it below with some kind of wooden fitting screwed into base of the stage and but would be too much of dogs dinner.

I might just then move the CRT out and place it in the bedroom where? it’s still a good CRT that has many more years left in it.

Plan B.

This why video projectors rule for that cinema like in the home because it doesn’t matter if its CRT or flat screen it still gets in the way of disrupting the matched centre channel. You have 2 very little choices centre goes above the TV or below it. Not, exactly where it suppose to be. So in this case the flat screen will have to be placed below and the stage is about the right height when dropping down the bed sheet screen it covers at about the right height expect the CRT or flat screen image is feet away from centre channel. still I get trill out of the film and bigger thrill as and when I use the projector one its noise like leaf blower and it really belongs behind the wall in the kitchen with port hole window for the light to get though up onto the screen.

Well I measured up plan B and that doesn't work the Sony is around 6" deep rule of thumb and the damn thing will be sticking out in front by a few inches if I moved the sub to the centre below the centre channel. Plus the ports might or some low frequencies might maybe curse wavy ripples in the LCD screen.

One part if me is saying give it a try and the other part is saying its going to be waste of 30 or so mins to move the CRT out and place the sub under the centre channel and find way to prob the Sony up in place for test run.




Using the CRT monitor for the meantime in the bedroom and flicker is bending my eyes!

I might have plan C after looking at sub and then thinking? Wait a second I can turn it onto its side. Oh the screen size is painful o n my eyes the frequency flicker!
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Ashley! You're back! Nice to see you. Thought you had disappeared. Holy cow, man! Look at all that new gear! Sure looks complicated but if you can get it working...

I think the next thing you need to get is a projector and AT screen.

Your so close to a home version of the Empire Leicester cinema.

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Evening Scott

I’ve given up for the Sony in the living room I’ve had it set-up with sub turned on its side and Sony placed on top but its too small LOL nice brightness picture on it. Now its back in the bedroom for a pc monitor and its way better than 21” CRT where I have to strain my eyes looks like its fraction out of focus.

With Sony set in wide mode, I can see clearly now, the CRT is gone,
I can see all obstacles in my way LCD
Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind with CRT
It's gonna be a bright (bright), bright (bright)
LCD Sun-Shiny day


I need to get a perforated screen and projector out of the room I used it for a little bit tonight but I get depressed with fan noise on it.

I'm going to put the Panasonic back in its place and I'll have to be a little bit patient until I can afford a bigger flat screen for regular viewing.

I've been looking at my favorite cinema to see if I can make a small version. I'm crap at wood work LOL I have friends that are far better at it. I got the idea to make curved ceiling then curves inwards and curves outwards. I was thinking of making a small cardboard model as the shape is pretty odd design.

With cardboard I can cut pye or pi shapes. I haven't done playing with cardboard since school 32 or so years ago. I'm sure it will all come back.

I seen some builds here where it involves yards of timber to make frame then the plasterboard or MDF is screwed up to it.

There are many materials around that can be used to fabricate. Simple think cardboard if its done right I shouldn't have look at twice. Plasterboard is messy plastic large thin sheets I've sure I've seen it around somewhere before in different colours.

I was looking at someones build the other day where he used a drill to bore though with dozens of holes and then used hammer and chisel to knock out a neat hole. I'll get a longer drill bit next week and I'm going to get the projector into the kitchen.
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If you can, just get the screen material and lay it across your front mains. It's rather cheap. Although I don't know how much the shipping would be to the UK. Hmm..

Here's my build thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1028664

You don't have to do it exactly like that but it gives you something to picture doing in your room.

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After pulling out the Panasonic I decided to start on fixing the dangling loudspeaker cable had some spare T&E cable thingys to hammer into wooden frame. I'll finish off the rest tomorrow too late now for hammering.





Like I said flipped the sub onto its side and placed the Sony on top. I think one of those 21:9 might fit underneath


Dropped the bed sheet down for 20mins


Picture came out a bit too grainy?
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Not bad but you would get a REMARKABLE improvement in picture quality using the material like I used for my screen. Obviously it would be a small investment though. You got the free option.

Definitely got to turn off the tv behind the screen though.

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Screen material by itself from Harkness screens that outfitted the Empire 1 and all its smaller multiple digital screens, its cheap I thought I was quoted a few years ago under £200.00 for just the material for a 4:3 at roughly near to the width of the room.

Can you find under a keyword on eBay (perforated screens home cinema) and all you end up reading is list of a needle in haystack. I’m looking at most that look like non-perforated and that isn’t going to work well. Some cheap ones with motorized fold up screens and some ridiculous of the same idea priced up at £2grand and over sigh without perforations.
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Just around hour ago my close friend dropped off a finished fit copycat CAT-67 extension card to slot into the CAT-64 EQ frame. The card slotted into CP65 like a glove.

The only part that is now need is "16way 1 side edge connector,0.15in pitch" that he located on site and I'll give them a call on Monday to see if they have any in stock in warehouse even thou its discontinued.



If push come to shove there might be an old pc that might have the same part that can be cannibalized.









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Thats pretty damn cool gear you got there!

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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Thats pretty damn cool gear you got there!

Cheers

I'd say pretty much I had no intension buying Dolby cinema processors as I knew there prices were high, but when I saw the crazy low prices most of them going at cheaper than brand new consumer AVR, I started buying some up.

I've only just ordered a second Samon SRK21 rack a few hours ago, that should be here next week on Wednesday.
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Not really much into buy bluray now. I might only buy a few cheap bargains once every few months. I prefer buying region1 DVD over region2 DVD. I have crammed as many DVD into the bookcase as possible some placed on top of the ones standing up vertically more of them on the bottom shelf's.

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Second Samson SRK21 arrived over an hour ago and its taken about an 1 hour of huff-puffing putting it together some of screws were a bitch.

Now I have to unplug the other rack besides the other Samson looks like I'd have to get some rack trays in few weeks, but for now I have no choice to stack the players and a few of the Marantz amps in it.












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Just ordered "16way 1 side edge connector,0.15in pitch" the cost was about the cost of piazza!

Well at least I should get the copy-CAT-67 workable this week.
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Its taken me with some sleep in-between as that counts I had to take a break after putting the Samson SRK21 together damn thing exhausted me. 6 hours sleep and another 5 hours putting the items in the rack and tightening up the cables to lessen the dangling cables everywhere taping them up with electrical tape and tiring them against the side of the racks at the back.







Still its a bundle of cables but its a little bit tided up and once I have put in all 3 to 4 racks I'll starting over again with multi-strand cable with shielding solder new plugs RAC and XLR customize the lengths to each item.


Fitting the Dolby CP500 in wasn't easy single-handedly Its not going to wired up as of yet since I have to get a few extra CAT cards for it.



Some rack trays would be nice to keep the players separated finding cheap rack trays is going to be fun.


Well its a lot manageable to move around even as it as at present time.
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takes my connection forever to load this thread haha!

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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takes my connection forever to load this thread haha!

Same here trick I found was to refresh twice and it loaded a bit faster as it tends to stall sometimes.

I have edited the size of the pictures down from their original size from 100% down to 60% for vertical and 45% for horizontal but its the amount on the first page. how many posts till it gets to second page?
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Used the metal rack for my cat, Sooty he likes it, he's purring away on it.





Right now he's grooming himself down on his, new spot.
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"16way 1 side edge connector,0.15in pitch" arrived a few days ago and it fits like glove onto the copyCAT-67 board.



Soldering the cable/wires onto the pins and PCB is the final step then testing to see if it works.

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A small cosmetic appearance with these RGB LED lights with prefixed programs and 6 user program modes, fade lights brightness up or down use slow or quick flash fade and so on.

Remote is very light construction with slim watch battery. The controller I guess has small workings of chips to control the outputs to 5 meter lights.

Sticky tape on the back the lights so it can be stuck down to the wall.

Lucky I had a variable transformer handy.







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