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Is the plan for the DOs to be active/passive or reverse phased active/active?
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just build 2 quad stacked DO's

I was thinking the same thing and what about IB?

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I was thinking the same thing and what about IB?

Whatever you end up doing, make sure it doesn't hinder your ability to move equipment around for future epic GTG's.
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just build 2 quad stacked DO's

the will double as foundation columns for your house, as you will prob need them

roughly 22x88x38

the would stand roughly where you have them now and go floor to ceiling
ill even come help you move them into place biggrin.gif

That's almost exactly the plan - each box from my drawing above is 21"w, 22"h, and 38" deep. Quad stack on each side of the center channel which is 20" wide. smile.gif
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Is the plan for the DOs to be active/passive or reverse phased active/active?

All passive, in phase.

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I was thinking the same thing and what about IB?

IB I've considered, but I like to remain flexible with placement which is why I l liked the DO sealed. smile.gif

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Whatever you end up doing, make sure it doesn't hinder your ability to move equipment around for future epic GTG's.

Haha, no problem there! smile.gif
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whats under the risers in the corners? if you could remove/make those smaller you might be better off with a little more wiggle room back there
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whats under the risers in the corners? if you could remove/make those smaller you might be better off with a little more wiggle room back there

I think that's where he hides the bodies...
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That is a woodworkers dream right there. Should have lots of fun with it.

I was laughing as I found this thread on a google search last night, I recognized it in the search pictures. I read it from the front page. Funny to see what you started from. Another thing that was kind of creepy was the other day I was looking at Danley stuff and stumbled onto some other sites that have collected our info, pictures video's from the last couple of GTG's. One appeared to be a Russian you tube, it was all in Russian and another I don't know what it was, but it was all of us in the pictures and videos, like I said kind of creepy. Unless someone from the GTG's added to these sites, but I doubt it. I guess somebody harvested it from AVS and reposted.

 

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whats under the risers in the corners? if you could remove/make those smaller you might be better off with a little more wiggle room back there

Storage for flux capacitors. smile.gif

Nah, my sump pump(s) are under those risers. They used to be a lot higher and I cut them down to the point where the plumbing is nearly touching. Acoustically those positions aren't great for subs anyway though as I've discovered after sweeping nearly every available position from the front wall back to the bar. tongue.gif Right in the middle of the room I'm getting some solid room gain and easily flat to single digits without any significant bumps or valleys from 5-100hz.
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I can't believe you just posted about the fulx capacitors!!! Dude, now everyone is gonna want them

Have to agree with Andrew...I didn't get to stay all day Monday, but long enough for us to move things around and test to the point that we knew the locations the subs are in now wouldbe killer. The optimal spot for them would really appear to be somewhere in between the risers and where they are now, but they don't give much up compared to that now. When I left, I thought the bass sounded better(response wise) than I have heard in Andrews room,, and the ouput was great ....one the left subs weren't set at 60ft biggrin.gif Andrew played around with eq some more and said it improved significantly after that too, so I can't wait to get back and here the final result. It sounds crazy coming from me Im sure, but I don't know that I'd even add the other 8 subs in there right now.....who am I kidding, of course I would! ...but my point is that the room is very balanced and the subs/mains integrate very well, with neither overpowering the other from what I've heard. I'm sure the Yorks can blow past the Daytons if we start talking about crazy levels, but it's so enjoyable at the levels we played that day, I don't know how often I'd push past that.
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Nicek! I have come to the realization that 8 more drivers (or a couple 24's) will take me to that place. I can still thermal the peavey going really hard even with the dual 4's now in place. I might look into the crest which according to Blah-man's guy can be just absolutely pounded and not hit any issues. Actually, that is stupid talk, you guys have heard it, what am I thinking.....

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Nicek! I have come to the realization that 8 more drivers (or a couple 24's) will take me to that place. I can still thermal the peavey going really hard even with the dual 4's now in place. I might look into the crest which according to Blah-man's guy can be just absolutely pounded and not hit any issues. Actually, that is stupid talk, you guys have heard it, what am I thinking.....

Honestly if you can upgrade for 200-250ish the crest might NOT be a terrible idea. I've been toying with the idea myself. tongue.gif
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need some custom cabinetry!
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Raymond - send me some info of what you want to do. Size/dimensions, wood/frame type, etc. We could get something whipped up in no time. smile.gif
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Raymond - send me some info of what you want to do. Size/dimensions, wood/frame type, etc. We could get something whipped up in no time. smile.gif

Ladies and gentleman, Ape Audio is officially open for business... tongue.gif
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Jim - Isn't it about time you venture into the DIY arena? tongue.gif
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Jim - Isn't it about time you venture into the DIY arena? tongue.gif

I am, sort of; my version is called PFIY (pay for it yourself)... smile.gif

There are two ideas I've been toying with, experiments with the same driver/amp combo actually. However, I have zero modeling or woodworking skills so I've reached out to a few people to see if they're interested in custom designing something for me (folks like Nathan Funk, Jon Lane and Peter Selby). I envy those who have the skills, time and tools to create there own stuff. I'm simply not one of those people I'm afraid. frown.gif

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I am, sort of; my version is called PFIY (pay for it yourself)... smile.gif

There are two ideas I've been toying with, experiments with the same driver/amp combo actually. However, I have zero modeling or woodworking skills so I've reached out to a few people to see if they're interested in custom designing something for me (folks like Nathan Funk, Jon Lane and Peter Selby). I envy those who have the skills, time and tools to create there own stuff. I'm simply not one of those people I'm afraid. frown.gif

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Finally finished up my vacuum hold down setup on the CNC this past weekend. It took me over a month picking away at this a few hours at at time to get this all functional. This is a full DIY setup using (4) central house vacuum motors to hold down sheet or smaller goods on the table. Combined they pull 8+" hg at 400+CFM so they move some serious air. This is a 4 zone system that will allow me to direct air to where I need it on the table. I built a filter box to filter air coming in through a shopvac filter on a 4" pipe as well. A "bleeder board" is used (ultralite MDF) to seal off the system and that is what you see on the top of the table. The air actually pulls through this board to hold down sheet goods. smile.gif No clamping or screwing needed any more! Another major bonus is that it will pull warped boards down to the table flat - within reason of course. smile.gif Can't wait to run a few projects this weekend.

I'm actually thinking of building 2 smaller boxes with 2 motors each as running 4 all the time seems like overkill. The issue with all 4 in one enclosure and less than 4 motors turned on is that the unused motors that are off bleed air through them. tongue.gif

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Can you make a valve system that you can open/close when any N number of vacuums are not on to prevent the air bleed?

Looks awesome ... very nice work ... none of us will believe this is really yours though until we see you standing next to half dozen sub enclosures.
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Can you make a valve system that you can open/close when any N number of vacuums are not on to prevent the air bleed?

Looks awesome ... very nice work ... none of us will believe this is really yours though until we see you standing next to half dozen sub enclosures.

Yes, that could be done but right now all 4 vacuums are in the same plenum. For that to work they will need to be isolated in separate plenums or manifolds - which is why I'm thinking I will build two enclosures with 2 motors in each and T them together with a check valve between them. Then I could simply run two switches to the wall and power either or both. cool.gif

As for the enclosures, they are coming next. cool.gif I will calling around to price out some lumber this week. biggrin.gif
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just cnc a piece of wood to divide that box of 4 motors in to 2 smile.gif

Sounds fun!
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just cnc a piece of wood to divide that box of 4 motors in to 2 smile.gif

Sounds fun!

I've actually already cut that piece - trouble is I sealed the plenum a little too well with silicon and gaskets and I had a hard time getting it back off, haha. smile.gif

You are somewhat local, correct? You will have to stop by sometime.
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Rilla..outstanding!!!
You are on another planet of DIY fun and creativity with this set-up.
Enjoy!!!
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hate it when that happens ... build things too well to modify them ...

I am less than an hours drive ... very local ...

I'm in the process of building a deck and making a home for the SH50s in the basement, but I can always take a break to visit another person who shares in the insanity of audio

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Rilla..outstanding!!!
You are on another planet of DIY fun and creativity with this set-up.
Enjoy!!!

Thanks Richard! I'm having a blast nerd-ing out with this stuff. cool.gif

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hate it when that happens ... build things too well to modify them ...

I am less than an hours drive ... very local ...

I'm in the process of building a deck and making a home for the SH50s in the basement, but I can always take a break to visit another person who shares in the insanity of audio


Come on by one of these weekends when you are free! Shoot me a PM with your info.

Framing is looking good! I would kill to be able to build a room from scratch at this point. biggrin.gif
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Just spent a good 15-20 minutes playing around with the vac setup and holding down different sized boards. Even using a small warped board (18x24ish) and bleeding off the rest of the air in a zone it still provides tremendous holding force. I had to take a quick video - it may not be too obvious but I'm pressing VERY hard on each side of the board here. Watch closely when I shut the vac off and you can see how warped the board is. biggrin.gif

I'm going to build a box with just 2 motors as I think that will still be more than I would need for 99% of the time. This would kick out less heat and waste less energy for most of my cutting. 1-2 of these motors would be great/fine for cutting sheet goods.

Ready for a sub project this weekend! tongue.gif
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I guess now all you need are some drivers, eh? Oh, wait... biggrin.gif

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if you are asking for ideas make me a box for the SI 24 biggrin.gif
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