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Home Cinema 1.0

I finally bought a house and decided to go all out with a theater room.

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The Hardware
Seats:
Transformer Power Reclining Sofa with two Home Solutions DuraBlend Home Theater Recliners

Projector:
Sony VPL-HW40ES

Screen:
150" on wall

AV Receiver:
Denon X4000 AV Receiver

Speakers:
Aperion Audio Grand Verus Towers x2
Aperion Audio Grand Verus Center x1
Aperion Audio Verus Forte Satellites x4

Subwoofer:
Seaton Submerssive HP+ Subwoofer

Sources:
HTPC - XBMC (20 terabytes)
DirecTV
Xbox360

Safety:
Panamax Surge Protector/Line Conditioner

I was going to go with dedicated amps with a pre/pro but this thing goes to deafening levels as is already. Don't see the need.

I have a bunch of photos with a video showing it operational.


Aperion Audio Grand Verus


Aperion next to my PSB Image T6






Aperion Grand Verus Center next to my Klipsch RC-52


Aperion Satellites


Walking up to the theater room (only room on second floor)


Infant Stages - Loading up the equipment upstairs


Seating Area


Center Channel on a Stand


The Projector


Testing the screen out


131" left to right, makes it about 150" for 16:9 ratio


Seaton Submerssive HP+


Seaton Submerssive HP+


Camera Flash, night time view


The Seats


SHOWTIME!!!






Ghetto wiring for now until I set it up.


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Congratulations on the new home. Your theater is going to be great and I'm liking your choices so far.

I didn't add an amp for loudness, I added one to improve sound quality by making the sound fuller and less strained. At least that is my opinion for what it is worth.

FYI - you are going to enjoy having the ceiling fan in the room. I often turn mine on during movies when we have a crowd.

Did you paint the screen wall white or grey?

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I finally bought a house and decided to go all out with a theater room.

It's still a work-in-progress. It's operational as we speak as a 5.1 with wires galore.

To do still:
Set up as 7.1
Wall mount the surrounds (I have the B-Tech Ultragrips here)
Ceiling mount the projector (I have a Chief RPAU here)
Buy a 150" screen (not in a rush screen looks good on wall)
Bury the wires
Light Treatment for the room

The Hardware
Seats:
Transformer Power Reclining Sofa with two Home Solutions DuraBlend Home Theater Recliners

Projector:
Sony VPL-HW40ES

Screen:
150" on wall

AV Receiver:
Denon X4000 AV Receiver

Speakers:
Aperion Audio Grand Verus Towers x2
Aperion Audio Grand Verus Center x1
Aperion Audio Verus Forte Satellites x4

Subwoofer:
Seaton Submerssive HP+ Subwoofer

Sources:
HTPC - XBMC (20 terabytes)
DirecTV
Xbox360

Safety:
Panamax Surge Protector/Line Conditioner

I was going to go with dedicated amps with a pre/pro but this thing goes to deafening levels as is already. Don't see the need.

I have a bunch of photos with a video showing it operational.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyLl64-I58

Aperion Audio Grand Verus


Aperion next to my PSB Image T6






Aperion Grand Verus Center next to my Klipsch RC-52


Aperion Satellites


Walking up to the theater room (only room on second floor)


Infant Stages - Loading up the equipment upstairs


Seating Area


Center Channel on a Stand


The Projector


Testing the screen out


131" left to right, makes it about 150" for 16:9 ratio


Seaton Submerssive HP+


Seaton Submerssive HP+


Camera Flash, night time view


The Seats


SHOWTIME!!!






Ghetto wiring for now until I set it up.
How do like your aperion?
We have the same set-up (7 aperion Verus Grand) except for the subs, electronics and projector.

Nice room by the way, I wish I had that much space.

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How do you find the Aperion Grands vs. the PSB Image?

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Thanks for the compliments guys. Professionally gets wired/mounted/installed tomorrow with everything. Cannot wait.

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Did you paint the screen wall white or grey?
Bought an Elite Screen 150". Goes up tomorrow.

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How do you find the Aperion Grands vs. the PSB Image?
Sound amazing. There's no limit in volume. No distortion. Clean sound. Impressive bass for a floor standing speaker (center included). The PSB's sound great but bass is more "bloated". For the PSB's I put a cross over on it to push the bass to my sub on them in the living room (Outlaw LFM-1 EX). Takes away some of the bloat. Otherwise, both sound amazing. The Aperion's are better overall in sound and appearance.
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Thanks for the compliments guys. Professionally gets wired/mounted/installed tomorrow with everything. Cannot wait.



Bought an Elite Screen 150". Goes up tomorrow.





Sound amazing. There's no limit in volume. No distortion. Clean sound. Impressive bass for a floor standing speaker (center included). The PSB's sound great but bass is more "bloated". For the PSB's I put a cross over on it to push the bass to my sub on them in the living room (Outlaw LFM-1 EX). Takes away some of the bloat. Otherwise, both sound amazing. The Aperion's are better overall in sound and appearance.
I am quit happy with my aperion and yes the look is extra icing on the cake

Enjoy your system, look to me you have done lots of homework

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Cool

thanks. As soon as everything is done I'll post up photos. Just sitting here waiting for the installers to show up. I got picture frames for my movie posters. I put one up while waiting. I figured man of steel was the best option going up the stairs you have superman flying even higher...

Looks good from the bottom of the stairs before you walk into the theater (one large bonus room).
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thanks. As soon as everything is done I'll post up photos. Just sitting here waiting for the installers to show up. I got picture frames for my movie posters. I put one up while waiting. I figured man of steel was the best option going up the stairs you have superman flying even higher...

Looks good from the bottom of the stairs before you walk into the theater (one large bonus room).
A word of advice with posters, if you look at my room page 113 post 3366 & 3368
Please Join and post what speakers you have
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I got a few.
Make sure to use some of those self adhesive felt thingy where ever the poster touch the wall!!!
That way you will not get any unwanted vibration on the wall (poster vibrating) from the subs created from the lower frequencies.

Just a little trick.

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That is one nice looking room with some very nice gear. I remember hearing Aperion speaker a long time ago and thought they sounded really good. I am sure it all sounds great when you mix in the SubMersive HP. Do you plan on adding room treatments? For me, it was one of the best investments I have done. Man I wish I had the space for a screen like that. 150" is massive to me.

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That is one nice looking room with some very nice gear. I remember hearing Aperion speaker a long time ago and thought they sounded really good. I am sure it all sounds great when you mix in the SubMersive HP. Do you plan on adding room treatments? For me, it was one of the best investments I have done. Man I wish I had the space for a screen like that. 150" is massive to me.
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UPDATE

Got the projector and the speakers professionally installed. Next up, mounting the screen and the light treatments for the room. The screen is sitting on two chairs because I'm, like a kid, impatient and wanted to see how the system operates.

Added a Logitech Harmony Ultimate One while I was at it...

























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Nosferatu, out of curiosity what type of screen is that and how far is it from your chairs and the projector?

Nice use of a far from optimal space!

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UPDATE

Got the projector and the speakers professionally installed. Next up, mounting the screen and the light treatments for the room. The screen is sitting on two chairs because I'm, like a kid, impatient and wanted to see how the system operates.

Added a Logitech Harmony Ultimate One while I was at it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myr-mpd6d-w






















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Nosferatu, out of curiosity what type of screen is that and how far is it from your chairs and the projector?

Nice use of a far from optimal space!
+1 on that

But I got a question, well it is more a comment to the OP!!!

The aperion bookshelf are made to mount verticaly, not horizontal for sound wise.
They did use some nice speaker mount, but WHY put why not put them vertical (those speaker are enginneer to play standing-up, not on there side).

Please contact aperion custumer service and ask for their advice!
As far, as I am consern.
They are pro to intall for look and did a wonderfull job, but they should also know how audio work.

Not trying to put your room down!
(those Rosewood sure look nice, kind of make me regreting geting the piano gloss finish).
Trying to help you to get the most of such beautiful and well engineer crafted speakers.

Love your room, but it jump at me.
And since I am kind of andio geek, wanted to past some Info to you.

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The surrounds sound fine to me the way they are. Care to elaborate on what you're talking about with the mounting altering the sound? If I put them vertically with those mounts I couldn't rotate the speakers downward and they would have been firing way above the height of the seats. I didn't want them sitting too far low to have someone walk into them and hit them.

They are the satellites (not the bookshelf) of the Verus lineup. The center and towers are their flagship models but I went with the satellites because I didn't need the extra bass nor did I need the woofer port out back getting muffled because they would be sitting close to the wall as I have them set up.


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The surrounds sound fine to me the way they are. Care to elaborate on what you're talking about with the mounting altering the sound? If I put them vertically with those mounts I couldn't rotate the speakers downward and they would have been firing way above the height of the seats. I didn't want them sitting too far low to have someone walk into them and hit them.

They are the satellites (not the bookshelf) of the Verus lineup. The center and towers are their flagship models but I went with the satellites because I didn't need the extra bass nor did I need the woofer port out back getting muffled because they would be sitting close to the wall as I have them set up.
My bad!
I tought they were the Bookshelf where the tweeter is mounted above the mid/woofer and not like the Satellite where the the tweeter is mounted into the mid/woofer.

On this type of speaker, I don't think it would matter in theory.
You can always send a quick e-mail to aperion service for confirmation.

On the bookshelf, they are made to be standing up, not on there side.

But from your reply, your speaker mount can only go up or down, (the way they are installed) but cannot go side to side?
Did I got your reply right?

If so, it would make sense that the installer did it this way.

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But from your reply, your speaker mount can only go up or down, (the way they are installed) but cannot go side to side?
Did I got your reply right?

If so, it would make sense that the installer did it this way.

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Correct they are b-tech ultragrip pro bt77

Awesome mounts but have a lot of mobility in one axis and not so much in the other.


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Correct they are b-tech ultragrip pro bt77

Awesome mounts but have a lot of mobility in one axis and not so much in the other.
This odd, I know these mount
http://www.amazon.ca/s/?ie=UTF8&keyw...l_5mdhjc5wko_b

But looking at your picture, I don't see the clamps on the top and bottom.
Your look like it clamp on the side and looking at the speaker mount picture (from the link), it should be on top and bottom due to the mount has been installed side way.
I cannot zoom in on your picture to see a deferent angle.

Am I looking at the speaker mount that you got?
If so it can be change from top/bottom to side/side?

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This odd, I know these mount
http://www.amazon.ca/s/?ie=UTF8&keyw...l_5mdhjc5wko_b

But looking at your picture, I don't see the clamps on the top and bottom.
Your look like it clamp on the side and looking at the speaker mount picture (from the link), it should be on top and bottom due to the mount has been installed side way.
I cannot zoom in on your picture to see a deferent angle.

Am I looking at the speaker mount that you got?
If so it can be change from top/bottom to side/side?

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Yes I have those and no I didn't need the bottom part of them to hold it. Just bolted at the bottom made it simple.
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Yes I have those and no I didn't need the bottom part of them to hold it. Just bolted at the bottom made it simple.
Thanks, now I understand.
Was it difficult to tap and dye to make the treads for the bolt?

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Was it difficult to tap and dye to make the treads for the bolt?

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My installer did it not me. I let them deal with mounting the surrounds, mounting the projector, and putting wiring through the walls and ground.

I mounted the screen up today and did all the other wiring at the source equipment.


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My installer did it not me. I let them deal with mounting the surrounds, mounting the projector, and putting wiring through the walls and ground.

I mounted the screen up today and did all the other wiring at the source equipment.
150" screen must be nice
Mine is 114" Carada Critirion 1.78 to 1, but could not go any bigger due to the room (1/8 of an inch clearence from the top of my subs and about 2" from the center).
But, I aslo sit only 10ft away.

The speaker mount confusion came from me when I did not catch that yours surronds are the Satelite and I got the bookshelf.

Enjoy your system.
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Here's the screen mounted. I need to do some minor adjustments but overall looks awesome. Shot these in day light with a GOOD AMOUNT of light coming in. Obviously it looks better at night time. Light treatment is my final step to completion. See my photo for the one pain in my butt window that I'm going to have a problem covering up. Any suggestions on how to cover it (considering it's curved at the top)...
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I'd be curious to get your thoughts on the projector once you can check it out on your screen in the dark. I have the same one and I just cannot over the soft almost smeary image...makes me think I might have a dud.

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Here's the screen mounted. I need to do some minor adjustments but overall looks awesome. Shot these in day light with a GOOD AMOUNT of light coming in. Obviously it looks better at night time. Light treatment is my final step to completion. See my photo for the one pain in my butt window that I'm going to have a problem covering up. Any suggestions on how to cover it (considering it's curved at the top)...
I got a sugestion, well it depend if you want light during the day or make it semi-permanent.

For my space, I just got new windows install arournd the house.
The sell man notice that my theater window was painted with black paint.
So, he offer to put a thick black vinyl over the window that can be removed in the future, in case you sell the house.

Worked out good

But like I said your room will be permently dark if you go that (unless you decide to remove-it).

Depending of what you want, it might work or not!?

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I'd be curious to get your thoughts on the projector once you can check it out on your screen in the dark. I have the same one and I just cannot over the soft almost smeary image...makes me think I might have a dud.
well if I get right on top of the screen (e.g. a couple feet) of course it looks a bit blurry. I'm stretching a 1920x1080 image to 150". From about 5 feet back and beyond it looks sharper and sharper. I have no complaints.


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The black vinyl you used, do you have a link or pics for sample? And do u attached them? TiA


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black vinyl? Do you mean the blackout material I used?

I went to an AV shop and they told me go to Jo-Ann fabrics. I then went to Lowe's and bought some industrial-type double-sided tape. Cost me about $65. The curtains were a bit more (~$300).


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I got a sugestion, well it depend if you want light during the day or make it semi-permanent.

For my space, I just got new windows install arournd the house.
The sell man notice that my theater window was painted with black paint.
So, he offer to put a thick black vinyl over the window that can be removed in the future, in case you sell the house.

Worked out good

But like I said your room will be permently dark if you go that (unless you decide to remove-it).

Depending of what you want, it might work or not!?

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black vinyl? Do you mean the blackout material I used?

I went to an AV shop and they told me go to Jo-Ann fabrics. I then went to Lowe's and bought some industrial-type double-sided tape. Cost me about $65. The curtains were a bit more (~$300).
I think he was asking about what I did, as per the first quote.

To answer the question.
My window installer did it.
It is the same vinyl they use to make stencil on cars or window for advertising.
Just something that stick and can be peel off.

And to the OP, glad what you did worked out for you!
Are you still happy with the aperion?
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