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post #1 of 31 Old 08-19-2014, 06:52 PM - Thread Starter
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I learned alot just reading these forums. Thanks everybody
I have the following:
Denon AVRS900W
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2 NHT Super Zero 2.1 as Front high's
4 BIC American Venturi DV-64 as front and rears
My center is BIC Venturi DV62CLR-S
SUB is BIC-PL200
Also have 2 Aura AST-2-B4s with dayton SA100 sub amp
MY room measurements are 23.5 ft long,7'4" ceiling height, and 11 ft wide.

Any comments or recommendations are welcome thanks. Kev
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Your next step would be to consider replacement of TV set to large screen projection for real home theater viewing.
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A tention roled down screen would work perfect and it will be Nirvana
Nice cozy place by the way

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I just notice the position of your center speaker.
Look like it should place on it's side (of the speaker) not on the end and off center like you have it, or is it like a mini tower?

If it is suppose to be on it's side, you could put on top of the monitor (using a shelf or speaker bracket) and tilt it down, that way it could be center and should improve your front stage.
Just a suggestion
Got a couple more if you like to hear them.

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I just notice the position of your center speaker.
Look like it should place on it's side (of the speaker) not on the end and off center like you have it, or is it like a mini tower?

If it is suppose to be on it's side, you could put on top of the monitor (using a shelf or speaker bracket) and tilt it down, that way it could be center and should improve your front stage.
Just a suggestion
Got a couple more if you like to hear them.

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yea thanks I was wondering what to do with my center. What was your other ideas?
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Your next step would be to consider replacement of TV set to large screen projection for real home theater viewing.
What is a good projector.Is the BenQ W1070 1080p 3D a good choice?
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A tention roled down screen would work perfect and it will be Nirvana
Nice cozy place by the way

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Yea I check on that screen its nice. Thanks
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yea thanks I was wondering what to do with my center. What was your other ideas?
Sound wise, I would move your right speaker to the right side of the table you got all your gears on, and use it as a TV stand, move it center (wider dispersion) and get a seperate audio stand since you got the space.

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Yea I check on that screen its nice. Thanks
Hopefully you don't sit too close!
I sit 10' for a 114", beause if you use your TV as primary source, your screen will be too close since it would hve to go down in front of the TV.

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What is a good projector.Is the BenQ W1070 1080p 3D a good choice?
I have no experience with the BenQ W1070 3D. You can check out the list of top 10 home projector from www.projectorcentral.com and the reviews. Most important is you have to decide how much you would spend and match with a good screen. My projector is a 8 years old Panasonic PTA-2000U without 3D, that match with a Carada billion white 120" diagonal screen and a video processor Darbee 5000 . I am still happy with them and no intension to change anything yet.
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RUSaved, I also suggest you to fully use the longest length of the room for viewing distance. Put a tension roll down screen at the window side is good suggestion. Take a look of my side speaker placement and the projector here too! I did the set up by myself.
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Sound wise, I would move your right speaker to the right side of the table you got all your gears on, and use it as a TV stand, move it center (wider dispersion) and get a seperate audio stand since you got the space.



Cannot help you on this one, other might chime in



Hopefully you don't sit too close!
I sit 10' for a 114", beause if you use your TV as primary source, your screen will be too close since it would hve to go down in front of the TV.

Ray
Ray, I widened my fronts like you suggested and ran Audessy. It sounds better. I can differentiate which is my center now thanks. I'm still working on my center set up. kev
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Sound wise, I would move your right speaker to the right side of the table you got all your gears on, and use it as a TV stand, move it center (wider dispersion) and get a seperate audio stand since you got the space.



Cannot help you on this one, other might chime in



Hopefully you don't sit too close!
I sit 10' for a 114", beause if you use your TV as primary source, your screen will be too close since it would hve to go down in front of the TV.

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Ray my viewing distance is about 9 foot now.I can get around 10-11 ft if I go to the wall.Some have suggested that I turn my room set up around lengthwise.Good Idea but I'm not committed yet. kev
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RUSaved, I also suggest you to fully use the longest length of the room for viewing distance. Put a tension roll down screen at the window side is good suggestion. Take a look of my side speaker placement and the projector here too! I did the set up by myself.
That is a good Idea. Nice setup you have thx kev
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Ray, I widened my fronts like you suggested and ran Audessy. It sounds better. I can differentiate which is my center now thanks. I'm still working on my center set up. kev
Good to see it did a difference

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Ray my viewing distance is about 9 foot now.I can get around 10-11 ft if I go to the wall.Some have suggested that I turn my room set up around lengthwise.Good Idea but I'm not committed yet. kev
Then it is do-able, I sit at 10ft with a 114" screen.
So maybe a little smaller screen, or not.
114" was the biggest I could fit and wish I could have went bigger

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RUSavd, suggest you to check this document http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter/ regarding the relationship among Screen size, viewing distance and resolution. There is a calculator for you to figure out your best option for you projection setup. Happy Viewing.
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RUSavd, suggest you to check this document http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter/ regarding the relationship among Screen size, viewing distance and resolution. There is a calculator for you to figure out your best option for you projection setup. Happy Viewing.
According to your link, I should sit closer to 15 ft with 1080.
But it does not tell me or someone else, you chould not sit closer than ???

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According to your link, I should sit closer to 15 ft with 1080.
But it does not tell me or someone else, you chould not sit closer than ???

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Per the calculator at that webpage, to get full benefit of 1080p resolution, it recommend sitting at 15 feet or closer. But you have to consider the viewing angle as well. The closer you sit toward the screen, the viewing angle is bigger. You will feel uneasy if the angle is too large.


Try this calculator spread sheet:-
http://carltonbale.com/home-theater/...er-calculator/


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Per the calculator at that webpage, to get full benefit of 1080p resolution, it recommend sitting at 15 feet or closer. But you have to consider the viewing angle as well. The closer you sit toward the screen, the viewing angle is bigger. You will feel uneasy if the angle is too large.


Try this calculator spread sheet:-
http://carltonbale.com/home-theater/...er-calculator/


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Ray, here is the calculated result of my setting, using that spreadsheet. You try yourself.
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Kev and Ray,
We should get a proper screen size and viewing distance, not the biggest screen, to optimize movie viewing. Guideline from experts says the optimum seating distance for a 1080p resolution display on a 100 inches screen would fall some where between 12.5 and 16.5 feet. My seating is 15 feet away from my 120" diagonal screen (1.4 gain - brilliant white).
THX and SMPTE have their optimization guideline. But most people feel the guidelines are too close to get relax and realistic movie viewing. Here are the guide lines:-
THX suggest 40 degree viewing angle. The viewing distance for a 16:9 screen is the Screen diagonal (in inches) divided by 0.84 . For example, a 100 inches screen should be viewed from a distance of 9.9 feet away.
SMPTE suggest 30 degree viewing angle. The SMPTE formula is Screen diagonal (in inches) divided by 0.6 = viewing distance.
But the most realistic rule is to sit between 1.5x and 2x the diagonal screen measurement.
Hope this will help you to decide screen size and viewing distance. Again, we cannot get the full benefit of resolution if the screen is too small; we get tired easily if the screen is too large (i.e. viewing angle larger than 40 degree. (THX guideline)).
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Kev and Ray,
We should get a proper screen size and viewing distance, not the biggest screen, to optimize movie viewing. Guideline from experts says the optimum seating distance for a 1080p resolution display on a 100 inches screen would fall some where between 12.5 and 16.5 feet. My seating is 15 feet away from my 120" diagonal screen (1.4 gain - brilliant white).
THX and SMPTE have their optimization guideline. But most people feel the guidelines are too close to get relax and realistic movie viewing. Here are the guide lines:-
THX suggest 40 degree viewing angle. The viewing distance for a 16:9 screen is the Screen diagonal (in inches) divided by 0.84 . For example, a 100 inches screen should be viewed from a distance of 9.9 feet away.
SMPTE suggest 30 degree viewing angle. The SMPTE formula is Screen diagonal (in inches) divided by 0.6 = viewing distance.
But the most realistic rule is to sit between 1.5x and 2x the diagonal screen measurement.
Hope this will help you to decide screen size and viewing distance. Again, we cannot get the full benefit of resolution if the screen is too small; we get tired easily if the screen is too large (i.e. viewing angle larger than 40 degree. (THX guideline)).
Happy viewing.
Agree and deagree

My first screen (DIY) was 90 inch with the accordence of THX calculater many years ago.
I boutht a nice Carada screen at 114" for a sitting distance of 10 maybe 11 ft.

All I can say is, WOW what a difference.
Sure your eyes might have to move a bit to follow the action but it put you right there.

No Regrets here
I would not go back.

I do audio by the book for the exception of the Bass been a db or 1.5 higher.
Screen size, I think it is a matter of preference like my Bass been a little higher and not according to Audyssey.

Best regard and enjoy your system.
After all it is all about personal preference.

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Ray, I fully agree with the personal taste (preference) to count first. My original viewing distance was 16 feet. I changed 1 foot closer a few months ago. I feel a little "un-easy" when watching a close-up scene. But you are right, I perceive I am in the long shot scene, just moved 1 foot closer to the screen. I will stay at the current viewing distance for some time.
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I have the Carada fixed screen too. 1.4 gain - brilliant white. I love it.
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Ray, I widened my fronts like you suggested and ran Audessy. It sounds better. I can differentiate which is my center now thanks. I'm still working on my center set up. kev
Kev, Why you not put the right front speaker on the floor. You can exchange the position of the left front speaker with the subwoofer and toe-in both left and right speaker a bit more towards the center. This is my humble suggestion.
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A very good sugestion since both main should be at the same level.
A center at the same level would be the best, but not always practical.
This why often it is sugested to tilt it up/down depending of the position

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A very good sugestion since both main should be at the same level.
A center at the same level would be the best, but not always practical.
This why often it is sugested to tilt it up/down depending of the position

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Thanks Ill try that. kev
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Kev, Why you not put the right front speaker on the floor. You can exchange the position of the left front speaker with the subwoofer and toe-in both left and right speaker a bit more towards the center. This is my humble suggestion.
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Thanks Ill try that. Kev
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A very good sugestion since both main should be at the same level.
A center at the same level would be the best, but not always practical.
This why often it is sugested to tilt it up/down depending of the position

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Fully agree with you, Ray. My front right and left are toed in toward the center seat slightly. The center speaker is tilted with the tweeter point at ear level. Sound volume was celebrated with a Sound meter.
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Ray, take a look of this review, as you are interested in Benq projector.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/benq..._review.htm?em
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