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LG Laser TV Brings Bigger Screen Home

As anyone who has recently shopped for a TV knows, screens are getting bigger. Once upon a time, 32 inches was considered huge, but now, 50 inches is the norm, and the trend is continuing upward. However, as screen size increases, so does the price—if you want a 100-inch flat panel, be prepared to spend well into five figures.

Fortunately, LG offers a cost-effective alternative—its new Laser TV, which was first introduced at CES 2013. This unique display consists of a projector and a separate 100-inch screen, but whereas most projector-based systems require careful and complicated installation, the Laser TV is designed for simple and unobtrusive setup. Its "ultra-short throw" technology with 13-element lens and aspheric concave mirror lets you place the front of the projector a mere six inches from the wall and below the screen, not clear across the room where people can walk through the light beam, leading to cries of "down in front!" from those trying to watch the big game or latest blockbuster.

Even better, the Laser TV's light source is—you guessed it—lasers, which produce rich, vibrant colors and have an expected lifespan of nearly 25,000 hours; that's 13 years if you watch five hours a day, seven days a week. And those lasers illuminate a Full HD 1080p image that measures 100 inches diagonally. By contrast, other short-throw projectors max out at around 80 inches with WXGA (1280x768) resolution, and their white incandescent lamps last roughly 3500 hours before needing an expensive replacement.

The projector has all the latest connections—three HDMI 1.4 inputs (one of which supports Audio Return Channel) along with component, composite, and RGB inputs, each with corresponding stereo audio inputs. That's right, the Laser TV includes its own speakers as well as an optical digital-audio output and a headphone output. It also provides an RF input and built-in ATSC/QAM tuner for over-the-air and unencrypted cable HDTV signals as well as LG's Smart TV online-streaming platform, making the system a complete television rather than simply a projector and screen. Rounding out the connections are two USB ports and an Ethernet port as well as built-in WiFi.

The screen itself is no less amazing. Its six layers are designed to deflect ambient light away from the viewing area while directing the light from the projector back toward the viewers' eyes rather than willy-nilly in all directions. A black-tint layer helps improve the contrast, even in a well-lit room, by lowering black levels and increasing the perceived brightness beyond the system's 150-nit spec.

The best news of all—the LG Laser TV lists for only $8999, way less than any other 100-inch TV. So tell us, what do you think of this technology?

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Cough, cough, cough.
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Interesting, not a huge fan of LG, but this is tech that could convince me.

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Obsolete! Should be 4K and where's the 3D?
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Oh, Mitsubishi claimed long life for it's Laservue- doesn't seem to be the case.
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Interesting. I can think of a number of situations where one could use these units both indoors and outdoors.

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If used outdoors, will this work with any screen?
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Why is this called a "TV"? I wasted 5 minutes of my life clicking on this story in the prospect of a remarkable panel price. It's a projector and screen, not even in a light-sealed cabinet like rear-projection was.
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I lost total interest with the price and this comment..."By contrast, other short-throw projectors max out at around 80 inches with WXGA (1280x768) resolution, and their white incandescent lamps last roughly 3500 hours before needing an expensive replacement."<br><br>80 inches? Really? That's a comparison?<br>My Epson 6020 is projected on a 155" screen and looks amazing. 25000/3500 (to use their numbers) is over 7 bulb replacements. Let's call it 8. 8 x $200 is $1600. Projector $3500 + $1600 is $5100. I like $5100 for a 155 inch TV much better than $9000 for a 100 inch screen.<br><br>Terrible comparisons. Obviously written for those who don't do research.<br><br>No Thanks!

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Not sure who exactly this is marketed for? A dedicated theater will never go this route due to the limited screen size. Maybe someone looking to put it in a living room but for this price and the ambient light issues that I'm sure it'll have to battle, not sure if it'll actually work?

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<i>"I lost total interest with the price and this comment..."By contrast, other short-throw projectors max out at around 80 inches with WXGA (1280x768) resolution, and their white incandescent lamps last roughly 3500 hours before needing an expensive replacement."<br><br>80 inches? Really? That's a comparison?<br>My Epson 6020 is projected on a 155" screen and looks amazing. 25000/3500 (to use their numbers) is over 7 bulb replacements. Let's call it 8. 8 x $200 is $1600. Projector $3500 + $1600 is $5100. I like $5100 for a 155 inch TV much better than $9000 for a 100 inch screen.<br><br>Terrible comparisons. Obviously written for those who don't do research." - JeffreyJonesBSME</i><br><br>If you do a bit of research, you'll find that your projector is not a short-throw model and your screen doesn't work the same way. This product is for use in a living room, with ambient light—a scenario where your projector would be extremely hard-pressed to perform in the same manner.<br><br>In a dedicated home theater, the value of a product like this is less obvious.

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This setup is not for me, but I believe there's a market for it, especially if the price drops during the next two years.
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<i>"Why is this called a "TV"? I wasted 5 minutes of my life clicking on this story in the prospect of a remarkable panel price. It's a projector and screen, not even in a light-sealed cabinet like rear-projection was."- cjvnyc</i><br><br>Indeed, it is more compact yet offers a larger screen size than any rear-projection TV that ever hit the market. It's called a TV because it works in ambient light, and the short-throw design means nobody is going to walk in front on the projector and block the image.
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Man this thing is cool. Only issue I can see is you would definitely need the right room setup to use it. But that goes for any big screen tv.<br><br>I wonder how it's performance will compare to other "standard" front projectors. Sure they wont have the convenience of being able to sit on your entertainment center on the front wall but I wonder how the contrast, etc. will compare.<br><br>This would certainly be a great option though for someone especially with a smaller room.

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Reminds me of my neighbor's crazy looking front projection tv from the 80s - had red green and blue light beams shooting almost straight up at the screen.<br><br>I remember his grandchildren brought their Nintendo to a party once - Mario was 6 inches tall! Imagine that!

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As I read it again, I guess this is not JUST a short throw projector that you're paying for. The screen appears to be equally important and necessary to make this projector work in a lighted room. I just wonder if all those images on this page are artist renditions of the system working in a lighted room or a real picture. I also don't get why anyone is complaining of the price. It was 10 years ago when I bought my Marantz 1280p DLP for $10,000 and it was one of the most popular projectors on this site. For what this can do (with the price of screen included), I think it is a very reasonable introductory price.
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I'd buy it at $2k! Seems like a cool setup for sure. I wonder if they could reduce the price significantly by offering smaller screen sizes. But if they were to do that, they'd lose the size advantage so probably not something they'd offer.

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I'm all for new tv tech to help force the industry to improve, but before I get too excited I have a couple questions, how does the picture quality of laser compare to plasma and oled? And, it being a screen size of 100", when will it be in UHD?
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<a href="http://reviews.cnet.com/home-theater-projectors/lg-hecto-laser-projector/4505-7858_7-35558335.html" target="_blank">http://reviews.cnet.com/home-theater-projectors/lg-hecto-laser-projector/4505-7858_7-35558335.html</a><br><br>Unless it can do something traditional dlp can't it will have a tough time competing with Sharps lcd panels (which may very well hit 100" in the future), and other projectors since the Lg apparently isn't any brighter than other projectors.
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If it drops in significantly in price by this time next year, I'd be in. It would be perfect for my small room.<br><br>As for Sharp's LCD panels, they won't or don't look as good in a dark room, plus they weigh a ton making wall mounting much more difficult.

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<i>"As for Sharp's LCD panels, they won't or don't look as good in a dark room, plus they weigh a ton making wall mounting much more difficult."</i><br><br>Very possible, although i like to wait for measurements before drawing any conclusions.<br>Just because the Sharp Lcd's aren't the best for a dark room doesn't mean Lg's dlp "laser tv" will be better. Lg also doesn't appear to be targeting the dark room crowd with this, and other projectors are more cost effective for that application.
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Yeah... but frikin' lasers.

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The only reason I did not go projector and went with a 64F8500 was that the projector would be directly overhead where I sat and the fan noise of the projector would drive me crazy.<br><br>This sounds fantastic, I definitely would be interested.

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It gives up my favorite thing about a projection set up... a transparent screen.
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chirpie<br><br>You said "a transparent screen"<br><br>You don't think a drop down screen will work with this projector? That would be my meaning for a transparent screen<br>

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1. I'm the market of this "TV" (my bedroom is currently using a 60" TV)<br>2. But I can't buy this TV becuause it's DLP based and the rainbow effect is extremely (physically) nauseating for me<br>3. the street price in Canada is $10K. I'm okay in spending money but for $10K I'm not going to spend money on a DLP projector. $2K is more in-line for this type of product<br><br>PS: I have actually seen this product and previewed it in my room. It's truly not worth the money even though I really want to like this product.

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That is too bad to hear

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Sounds to me like a lot of the $$ involved is going towards the fancy schmancy screen. Make it a 4k projector at the current price of their 2k one and provide people with different screen size combos including cinemascope aspect ratio (obviously increasing in price as the screen gets bigger) and maybe they have a winner.<br><br>If that's too complicated for people (seriously, though?), offer assistance for setting up the optimum setup for a given room. It's not rocket science.

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