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post #121 of 146 Old 11-18-2013, 08:43 AM
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Didn't know about this thread at all and found it by mistake. I ordered 3 seats from 4Seating a couple of months ago and all went well except for the LED lights that looks so cool at the bottom front of the chair. The started turning themselves on without any help. I contacted 4Seating and was given a few suggestions but none worked. After that I sent two e-mails and none of them have been answered. I'm going to call them this morning to see what gives. Other wise I have no complaints with 4Seating.
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I placed an order for 8 Seatcraft Venetian on thanksgiving weekend 2013. Free power upgrade was included. I ordered online but called because I wanted one single seat in the arrangement and that wasn't an option online. I spoke to Alex and he was helpful. Throughout the process we emailed about 24 times. Seats shipped out on 12-18. Alex said there was a delay because my one row had a duel love seat arrangement and they needed to modify a seat to make that work. Also they charged more per seat for the love seat arrangement. My estimated delivery date was 12-27. I noticed my chairs arrived at the terminal a city over from me on 12-26 and sat there for a week. Alex recommended I call Bullet, which I did. After a ton of back and forth with Bullet my chairs arrived a couple weeks later in excellent condition. One thing I didn't like with the seats, they didn't connect together with a bracket system. So I called 4seating and they sold me brackets which were pricey at $30 a pair and I needed 5 pairs. Ricky helped with this order and he was super helpful. In all for the price I'm extremely happy with the purchase thus far. Some of these negative reviews are people with really low post counts, kinda makes me wonder. So far I would by again from 4seating. Just plan on 1.5-2 months for delivery and all should be good.
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I know this is my first post, but I found this site when I was deciding where to order my theater seats.  I was very leery about 4seating.com after reading this thread, but took a leap of faith and ordered my seats 10 days ago.

 

I have to say I have been MORE than pleasantly surprised.  The chairs we ordered were $150 less than anything we could find comparable.  They shipped in two days, as promised, and we received them yesterday...nine days from order to delivery!!

 

The chairs were in excellent condition, and were exactly what we expected...good buy for the money and excellent customer service from 4seating.com

 

I will also add...our set up is a little different.  We are fulltime RVer's and dimensions were VERY important to us, as we have a very limited space and the chairs needed to be exactly as described.  They were and we are very happy with our choice!

 

If I could figure out how to get the pics off my phone to my computer I will post here...

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I ordered 4 of the Seatcraft 12006 seats last Monday 2/24.  I ordered by phone because I wanted to check their inventory and know what to expect.  I ordered brown manual seats but received a call back Tuesday that they only had 3 brown seats but offered black with power at no extra charge.  That worked fine for me since it saved $400 and these also included the under seat lighting.  they shipped as they told me on Wed. and delivered on Friday with no problems at all.  By Sat. we had them installed and ready to go.  I was a little worried with all of the bad reviews I had read but my experience was great.  To order on Monday and deliver on Friday was better than expected and the seats work great. 

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Here is my experience with 4seating.com. This is a positive review of 4seating.com, but a bad review of Roadrunner.


I ordered a power recline 4 seat center love seat configuration Venetian on Labor day. I got notification of shipment on the 9th. Tracking showed it was picked up on the 8th. On the 10th it reached AZ. On the 11th it reached TX. Once it reached Houston went into limbo. It actually didn't say it reached Houston. It said "Trailer enroute at RCV'G AGENT" on the tracking page on the 12th. Since I'm alone with no help (just moved here, and my kids don't count as help even though they think they do), and don't need more boxes or pallets (you should see the boxes I have pilled up), I paid for the white glove service. So, I didn't worry at first.


When I didn't hear anything, I called Roadrunner on the 16th. I was told it was en route to the delivery agent and I was asked for my number and told I would get a call back. I'm sure you guessed, but that didn't happen. I also noticed that day another "Trailer enroute at RCV'G AGENT" entry. On the 17th, I called 4seating, and the customer support agent told me to be patient that it was on its way to the white glove service, and they would call me. She gave me the phone number and order number for the WG service. They said they had not received it yet. On the 18th I was told that it was there, but it would take a few more days to process the paperwork. Fine, lie to me while you try to find it. They were diligently stamping "Trailer enroute at RCV'G AGENT" on the tracking information to make it look like something was going on. It was not every day, but it was stamped 4 times. On the 19th they admitted it was lost. On that same day they placed a backdated entry showing it arrived in Houston and was unloaded on the 11th.


At that point I decided to contact 4seating.com again. I looked online and saw Alex's email listed as the General contact. I sent an email on the 22nd reporting the issue I was having with the Roadrunner, and asked if he could help. He responded by copying me on an email on the 23rd requesting information on the shipment and what would be needed to file a claim and reship. The next day I got a confirmation of a second order being prepared for me. It was picked up on the 26th, and made it to Houston on the 30th. I called this morning to find out it was still sitting on the dock, but they scheduled it to go to the delivery agent tomorrow. I'll call the agent tomorrow and see when I can get delivery here. I doubt I'll get it until Monday.


In the meantime, they found my original shipment. According to the delivery documents, 3 of 4 boxes were crushed. 1 chair was torn. 2 chairs were scratched.


If I had the whole thing to do over again, I would have involved Alex much earlier. At the time I was so busy with work, I didn't really realize how much time was passing. I emailed Alex on Monday night, and his response was on Tuesday morning. We exchanged several emails, and he was very courteous and helpful. I had read a few threads about 4seating.com, and was not looking forward to contacting them, but I've been very pleased with they way this was handled on their end. Can't say I think much of Roadrunner. When I called today I was basically told, yes they have it, but the driver has already left, as if it was no big deal. Whatever, it's not worth getting angry over.


Alex said he's over their dedicated customer service team. Considering how responsive he was, I'd order from them again.

I'm scheduled for Tuesday delivery. It's now out of Roadrunner's hands. I feel relived.


I'll post again after I get delivery and have a chance to inspect everything.

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OK, here is the final resolution and a review of the seating. Everything arrived today in fully intact boxes and was easily set up. Preliminary checks show that everything works. I had power seats, lighted cup holders and floor lights. So, it was a happy ending, and Alex took care of me. I'd buy from them again, and I'd pray the shipper did a decent job. Roadrunner still had to stick it to me one last time though. They held it one day longer than they should have, but oh well.


OK, now a quick review of the seating. First, I'd like to say I'm happy with the seating. Feels good, looks good, and everything functions well. Now, for what I'm not thrilled with. To repeat what I said above, it is 4 seats, center love seat, lighted cup holders, floor lights, power seats. First, these seats are not connected to each other. NP, there is a place to connect brackets on the bottom. A trip to Lowe's can fix that. Still, brackets should be an option on the order screen. I expected them to be connected after being set up. I'd have paid for the bracket. I noticed after the fact someone else had the same issue and called to order brackets. Next is the arm arrangement and function. If you are sitting in the seats, the left most seat has two arms, the next seat has no arms, the next two seats have 1 arm. The reason is that the controls are on the right arm. This is a mistake. There should be two different arms a right arm with controls and a left arm with controls The left two seats should have left arm controls and the right two seats should have right controls. Because they don't, the armless seat has a lever down between the two middle seats to activate the power seat, the seat to the right activates the floor lights for that seat, and the seat to the left controls the lighted cup holder. That is annoying as heck, especially since that is THE seat that I had decided was going to be mine. No way, my seat is now the one to the right of that one. I get it, it is cheaper to make all arms the same, but it really can't cost that much to have a left control arm and a right control arm depending on where the seat is. With all the different ways to configure these seats, it seems like this would be useful. I'll also say I chose a 4 chair center love seat arrangement over a 5 chair center couch arrangement for this very reason. It's my fault for not making sure it worked the way I expected it to. When the warranty is over, I'm going to make a little modification to the way this functions.


Now, for a plus. The three seats with power controls on the arms have USB ports for charging. That was unexpected and makes me very happy. I can plug in my PS4 controller when the batter gets low. The lighted cup holders and floor lighting can be turned off, but the lighted control for the seats cannot. Probably not a big deal, but I'll see when it gets dark. The floor lighting is cool, but I might disconnect it (just a DC barrel connector) as it throws a lot of light on the TV, and I really just want the cup holders lit. That would make one of the cup holders on the two arm chair not work as it is in series with the floor lights, but I can fix that. Who knows, I might not even care about the lit cup holders.


The chairs are comfortable and feel like I should be able to get years of service out of them. My plan for these seats is to serve me as my primary seating until I build a house with a theater. Then these will go to the back row, which should make them last even longer. The cup holders on these seats are nice. If you see complaints about the cup holders or see the pictures on Seatcraft's site that look ugly, those are the old cup holders. Alex told me all Seatcraft seats use the same nicer cup holders now. That is a major plus. I got a free accessory with my order, and chose the neck pillow. I like it. Wish I had ordered 3 more. The seats came with tray tables. The tables are nice, but if they are over your leg, they block the cup holder. If they are pointed out, they do not. The power option is a must, and that applies to any brand of seat. I love being able to set it to any position and have it stay. Manual recline is not even close to being worth the savings. Don't do it. Get power. BTW, speaking of power, there were 7 items to plug in with this seating. 4 power supplies for the chairs, and 3 for the LED lighting (armless chair shares LED power as explained above). They offered Aura Pro bass shakers, but I found them much cheaper elsewhere. I'll set those up soon.


So, that's it. I'm going to get my kids now. They don't know it showed up today and have been more impatient than I have. I have all the LEDs turned on for them to see when they walk in, and it looks really really cool. The shades are drawn and the living room is glowing blue.
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I agree the one lever switch in the middle of the seats is super dumb. I have to give a tutorial to my guests on how to work it every time. When the neighboring seat reclines it activates the lever switch. I plan to fix this by moving the switch to the left side which is an arm side for me. I bought the brakets, they are awesome and appear to be removed from the seats. The cost is super dumb for the brackets, like $35 per set. I spent like $160 on my brackets.
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I agree the one lever switch in the middle of the seats is super dumb. I have to give a tutorial to my guests on how to work it every time. When the neighboring seat reclines it activates the lever switch. I plan to fix this by moving the switch to the left side which is an arm side for me. I bought the brakets, they are awesome and appear to be removed from the seats. The cost is super dumb for the brackets, like $35 per set. I spent like $160 on my brackets.
Are all brands like that when u have a middle loveseat?
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Are all brands like that when u have a middle loveseat?
That's a good question. I wonder what the more expensive brands do.

The funny thing is, it cost $125 more for them to remove the arm and put the lever in.

I know they are trying to reduce costs and make everything efficient, but it would be worth paying more to get it right. Personally, I think they should have sent the arm they removed with the shipment. It has a spare cup holder and the switch I want in it.
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I very recently purchased from 4 Seating and it was a positive experience.

They have a rather large showroom in So Cal (La Habra) with quite a few chairs from various vendors. Quite a few from Seatcraft, which is understandable since they are associated with them. Frankly I would never purchased seating without first giving my butt the opportunity to comparison shop. You have to get over the fact that the showroom is on the second floor in a warehouse-style building with no signs or windows on the lower floor, very few parking spaces, and a buzzer you need to push to be buzzed in. This was not what we expected but we got over it as soon as we got upstairs to the large showroom with a crapload of chairs. Salesman Dario was very knowledgeable and even offered to stayed late when we called from on our way up there and said we'd be arriving just after closing time.

Sat in over 30 chairs before picking the Seatcraft Verona. It's a good chair for someone 6ft & over who has trouble finding a seat with good head support. We got a 'row' of two and a single seat (which they do not list on the website but still sell them) for our media room. I like the fact they are not permanently attached since we have them on carpet sliders and move them all around the room depending on how many guests are present and whether its TV or projector viewing since they are on different walls.

If you're 'local' they throw in freebies and a better deal. Delivery went without a hitch. Delivered within a week, On time, calls in advance, very competent dudes who brought in and assembled the chairs (its a snap actually, but they're kinda heavy going upstairs in a very narrow stairwell).

All in all a very positive experience, and would definitely recommend them. Rare to find a vendor, furniture store, whatever, with as many chairs as they had. well worth the trip to spend an hour or two there just test driving them all.
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OK, I just got my seats out of the box and called their customer service number to ask about the brackets not being in the box.

They said that they don't come with brackets because "they don't need them. Not unless you're roughhousing." "Really?" "That's why don't have them, sir. Not needed." I asked if they knew of any place that sold brackets like the chairs needed to be connected, just in case I was crazy enough to want to try." "Well, we have some 'old' brackets sitting on the shelf that will connect the chairs. They're $35 dollars." "So you charge $35 dollars for something that the chairs are already made to take and most home theater seating comes with?" "Well, they don't need them and I haven't sold any since I've been working here. Since 2012." "Why don't you send them to me for the cost of shipping since they don't sell?" "Sir, we can't give stuff away." "What about the 'free power recline' on my seating I just bought?" "That was a promotion."

But other than that they seem OK. My wife likes them, so that's a plus. Well packed and promptly shipped. But I will not buy from them again, just because of the $35 per chair tax. I wouldn't even have minded paying it if it was just built into the purchase. Never would have known. I can't imagine that $35 gotcha is worth the loss of a future customer, but I guess they've done the math.

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Not happy about the bracket thing.

OK, I just got my seats out of the box and called their customer service number to ask about the brackets not being in the box.

They said that they don't come with brackets because "they don't need them. Not unless you're roughhousing." "Really?" "That's why don't have them, sir. Not needed." I asked if they knew of any place that sold brackets like the chairs needed to be connected, just in case I was crazy enough to want to try." "Well, we have some 'old' brackets sitting on the shelf that will connect the chairs. They're $35 dollars." "So you charge $35 dollars for something that the chairs are already made to take and most home theater seating comes with?" "Well, they don't need them and I haven't sold any since I've been working here. Since 2012." "Why don't you send them to me for the cost of shipping since they don't sell?" "Sir, we can't give stuff away." "What about the 'free power recline' on my seating I just bought?" "That was a promotion."

But other than that they seem OK. My wife likes them, so that's a plus. Well packed and promptly shipped. But I will not buy from them again, just because of the $35 per chair tax. I wouldn't even have minded paying it if it was just built into the purchase. Never would have known. I can't imagine that $35 gotcha is worth the loss of a future customer, but I guess they've done the math.

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OK, I just got my seats out of the box and called their customer service number to ask about the brackets not being in the box.

They said that they don't come with brackets because "they don't need them. Not unless you're roughhousing." "Really?" "That's why don't have them, sir. Not needed." I asked if they knew of any place that sold brackets like the chairs needed to be connected, just in case I was crazy enough to want to try." "Well, we have some 'old' brackets sitting on the shelf that will connect the chairs. They're $35 dollars." "So you charge $35 dollars for something that the chairs are already made to take and most home theater seating comes with?" "Well, they don't need them and I haven't sold any since I've been working here. Since 2012." "Why don't you send them to me for the cost of shipping since they don't sell?" "Sir, we can't give stuff away." "What about the 'free power recline' on my seating I just bought?" "That was a promotion."

But other than that they seem OK. My wife likes them, so that's a plus. Well packed and promptly shipped. But I will not buy from them again, just because of the $35 per chair tax. I wouldn't even have minded paying it if it was just built into the purchase. Never would have known. I can't imagine that $35 gotcha is worth the loss of a future customer, but I guess they've done the math.
A lot of people have mentioned this. Have you tried to see if you could use a couple $2 c-clamps?
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OK, I just got my seats out of the box and called their customer service number to ask about the brackets not being in the box.

They said that they don't come with brackets because "they don't need them. Not unless you're roughhousing." "Really?" "That's why don't have them, sir. Not needed." I asked if they knew of any place that sold brackets like the chairs needed to be connected, just in case I was crazy enough to want to try." "Well, we have some 'old' brackets sitting on the shelf that will connect the chairs. They're $35 dollars." "So you charge $35 dollars for something that the chairs are already made to take and most home theater seating comes with?" "Well, they don't need them and I haven't sold any since I've been working here. Since 2012." "Why don't you send them to me for the cost of shipping since they don't sell?" "Sir, we can't give stuff away." "What about the 'free power recline' on my seating I just bought?" "That was a promotion."

But other than that they seem OK. My wife likes them, so that's a plus. Well packed and promptly shipped. But I will not buy from them again, just because of the $35 per chair tax. I wouldn't even have minded paying it if it was just built into the purchase. Never would have known. I can't imagine that $35 gotcha is worth the loss of a future customer, but I guess they've done the math.
A lot of people have mentioned this. Have you tried to see if you could use a couple $2 c-clamps?

Well I bought brackets in 2013 from them. If you have a love seat arrangement then I feel they are really important. I have guests that will try to get out of the seat when reclined and they would tip forward if not locked together. If you come up short, I have 5 extra pairs of brackets we could work something out. Like I said, I have all my chairs locked together and love the security.
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Well I bought brackets in 2013 from them. If you have a love seat arrangement then I feel they are really important. I have guests that will try to get out of the seat when reclined and they would tip forward if not locked together. If you come up short, I have 5 extra pairs of brackets we could work something out. Like I said, I have all my chairs locked together and love the security.
I PM'ed you about those brackets. I'd like to work something out.

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unless you are planning some vigorous loving on the love seats, if these chairs are going on carpet you don't need the brackets. They won't slide apart without significant lateral forces.
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unless you are planning some vigorous loving on the love seats, if these chairs are going on carpet you don't need the brackets. They won't slide apart without significant lateral forces.
If you do a double love seat |oo|oo|. One recliner won't have an attached arm and will tip easy. I personally like mine locked but I'm OCD. Check out my Marty built and see my bracing
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I've just today received my 2 loveseats and 4 recliners from 4Seating. My overall experience was fantastic. They were extremely helpful in explaining the differences and similarities between several manufacturers, as well as helping with material selection and configuration options. They took their time to answer all of my dumb questions. My order arrived right when they said it would, and everything seems to be in order. I'll be posting a separate review and pics of my Seatcraft seats.
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EDIT: I decided to cancel my order, based on all the terrible feedback and the fact that it still hadn't shipped in 3 weeks. I will search around and find a better supplier, even if it costs me a bit more. I don't know how these guys stay in business with such abysmal service.

Is Stargate owned by 4Seating now? And if so, why are 4Seating customers relatively happy, while Stargate costumers still seem to be getting the runaround? I ordered 3 seats from Stargate a couple weeks ago. They were supposed to be in stock, but of course they weren't and now I can't get any answers as to when exactly they are coming. Very frustrating when they take your money immediately.

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Does anyone own, or has anyone seen in person/sat in, the Seatcraft Winston, Rockford or Monaco? I'm considering all three from 4seating, and just wondering if their good, bad, etc. Thanks!
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Does anyone own, or has anyone seen in person/sat in, the Seatcraft Winston, Rockford or Monaco? I'm considering all three from 4seating, and just wondering if their good, bad, etc. Thanks!
Does anyone have any feedback on the Seatcraft Monaco? 4Seating has a $300 off sale on three seats, and I am considering these.
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Im 95% sure my credit card info was stolen and used by someone at 4seating. Two days after I paid over the phone I had $2,000 in charges.
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I'm looking at seating with 4seating, too, so this thread has been immensely helpful. There is a current sale going on for "free" power recline/usb, but maybe that's just a made up sale to get me to finalize a purchase with a 3 month back order. BBB has too many dings on their company to have me comfortable with thousands of dollars, as does RipoffReport which specifically mentions the sales person I'm dealing with.
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Im 95% sure my credit card info was stolen and used by someone at 4seating. Two days after I paid over the phone I had $2,000 in charges.
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I called and told them what happened bc all of the purchases were out of California and I live in the Midewest. When I made my purchase it took like 4 hours before my order was processed because a "manager" had to approve it. Im pretty sure my info was written down for anyone's eyes to see the whole time.




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Quite the ying v. yang feedback stories here. Certainly made me pause.
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